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December 04, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
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I guess the dividend will be around 0.0015

if divs are this low shares, will drop to 0.2
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December 04, 2013, 04:17:18 PM
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I guess the dividend will be around 0.0015

if divs are this low shares, will drop to 0.2

If not will you delete your account and never post here again?
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December 04, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
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why would i do this? This is a speculation threat, i think I'm entitled to share my opinion.
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December 04, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
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why would i do this? This is a speculation threat, i think I'm entitled to share my opinion.
Everyone down! He's got a speculation!

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December 04, 2013, 06:06:01 PM
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0.0019894 divs for today
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December 04, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
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why would i do this? This is a speculation threat, i think I'm entitled to share my opinion.
Everyone down! He's got a speculation!


I laughed at this haha, and needed it too.


In all seriousness, I believe many people are growing tired of his pessimistic speculations. What you infer from that I will leave up to you.
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December 04, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
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why would i do this? This is a speculation threat, i think I'm entitled to share my opinion.
Everyone down! He's got a speculation!
I was personally thinking that as well XD

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December 04, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
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I like today's divs, they demonstrate stability. I hope FC manages to keep them relatively constant until the new generation goes online and will be put in new products in march (I guess).

I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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December 05, 2013, 02:00:52 AM
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I like today's divs, they demonstrate stability. I hope FC manages to keep them relatively constant until the new generation goes online and will be put in new products in march (I guess).

They are only stable because we are still getting cube income. Since that income has nearly all gone and no other products announced, dividends could shrink nastily over the new year period.

I'd wait for an announcement from fc to clarify if more cubes are being produced or any other products being launched before gen3 to keep divs up but the waiting is more torture than its worth.
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December 05, 2013, 06:56:35 AM
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I like today's divs, they demonstrate stability. I hope FC manages to keep them relatively constant until the new generation goes online and will be put in new products in march (I guess).

They are only stable because we are still getting cube income. Since that income has nearly all gone and no other products announced, dividends could shrink nastily over the new year period.

I'd wait for an announcement from fc to clarify if more cubes are being produced or any other products being launched before gen3 to keep divs up but the waiting is more torture than its worth.

There were 9000 cubes, which are currently sold for 1BTC a piece. Let's say reseller has 5% profit margin, this leaves 0.95 for asicminer. Hardware sales in last two dividends were around 716 BTC, which equals 750 cubes. There is still A LOT to be sold.
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December 05, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
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I like today's divs, they demonstrate stability. I hope FC manages to keep them relatively constant until the new generation goes online and will be put in new products in march (I guess).

They are only stable because we are still getting cube income. Since that income has nearly all gone and no other products announced, dividends could shrink nastily over the new year period.

I'd wait for an announcement from fc to clarify if more cubes are being produced or any other products being launched before gen3 to keep divs up but the waiting is more torture than its worth.

There were 9000 cubes, which are currently sold for 1BTC a piece. Let's say reseller has 5% profit margin, this leaves 0.95 for asicminer. Hardware sales in last two dividends were around 716 BTC, which equals 750 cubes. There is still A LOT to be sold.

I also believe he may be 'stretching' the sales or at least sales revenues over that dry patch until gen 3 goes online and new products are being shipped

I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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December 05, 2013, 02:46:47 PM
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There were 9000 cubes, which are currently sold for 1BTC a piece. Let's say reseller has 5% profit margin, this leaves 0.95 for asicminer. Hardware sales in last two dividends were around 716 BTC, which equals 750 cubes. There is still A LOT to be sold.

FC said that they've already sold 3K cubes, and we haven't seen that money, yet, either. 

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December 05, 2013, 03:19:24 PM
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There were 9000 cubes, which are currently sold for 1BTC a piece. Let's say reseller has 5% profit margin, this leaves 0.95 for asicminer. Hardware sales in last two dividends were around 716 BTC, which equals 750 cubes. There is still A LOT to be sold.

FC said that they've already sold 3K cubes, and we haven't seen that money, yet, either. 

He said that 3k cubes are ORDERED, as you know, AM only uses money once the miner is delivered, not paid for.
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December 05, 2013, 05:26:50 PM
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He said that 3k cubes are ORDERED, as you know, AM only uses money once the miner is delivered, not paid for.
yeah, that was 2+ weeks ago.  How long does it take to deliver them?

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December 05, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
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people keep talking about divs, and I understand they have the most immediate effect on price. But what do you think about
(1) KnC and the sheer volume of miners they have delivered (Jupiters) and the upcoming 3TH+ Neptunes that are bound to hit Q1.
-> Are we poised to see a sudden huge network diff spike? How has ASICminer's position on the evolution of the network difficulty changed the past few months?
(2) With the latest news (briefly) striking fear in China regarding bitcoin(official: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html - human translated: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5hzl/my_human_translation_of_the_china_regulation/) , does that affect current Bitcoin mining company prospects? Are we still decentralizing operations? I am worried of increased regulations in China...
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December 05, 2013, 06:21:39 PM
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(2) With the latest news (briefly) striking fear in China regarding bitcoin(official: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html - human translated: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5hzl/my_human_translation_of_the_china_regulation/) , does that affect current Bitcoin mining company prospects? Are we still decentralizing operations? I am worried of increased regulations in China...

Looks like the first steps to banning BTC in China outright.
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December 05, 2013, 06:28:01 PM
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(2) With the latest news (briefly) striking fear in China regarding bitcoin(official: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html - human translated: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5hzl/my_human_translation_of_the_china_regulation/) , does that affect current Bitcoin mining company prospects? Are we still decentralizing operations? I am worried of increased regulations in China...

Looks like the first steps to banning BTC in China outright.

lol, they said it was legal for personal use, they just dont want bank accounts denominated in btc. this is normal stuff.

that kills all exchanges in china, doesn't it?  they probably didn't like the last btc theft case.

could this happen in the US? and if so won't that kill all exchanges?
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December 05, 2013, 06:28:07 PM
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(2) With the latest news (briefly) striking fear in China regarding bitcoin(official: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html - human translated: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5hzl/my_human_translation_of_the_china_regulation/) , does that affect current Bitcoin mining company prospects? Are we still decentralizing operations? I am worried of increased regulations in China...

Looks like the first steps to banning BTC in China outright.
How do you figure that?
The govt said at this time bitcoin is too risky for banks to trade in. At this time, that is something that has never been done yet anywhere, so whatever. Also confirmed the exchange is good to go. No bad news.
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December 05, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
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My only concern, is can China's published stance have any effect on Asicminer's ability to exchange the company's BTC <> fiat? It surely would be a bad situation if all of a sudden we were unable to pay our suppliers or contractors. Otherwise I can't see any implications for AM from what I read.
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December 05, 2013, 08:59:13 PM
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AM pegs their costs and prices in BTC. pays in BTC whenever possible. i think we're gonna be ok. also makes me appreciate how mysterious/hard to reach FC is.
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