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Author Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #  (Read 417554 times)
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September 16, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
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is there any possibility to monitor the hashrate directly by the pool ?

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September 16, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
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is there any possibility to monitor the hashrate directly by the pool ?

thx

The pool estimates your hash rate based on the number of shares submitted.  There is no other way to know your hash rate pool-side.

This information is exposed via the stats pages already, as well as in various APIs.

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September 16, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
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The pool estimates your hash rate based on the number of shares submitted.  There is no other way to know your hash rate pool-side.
X-Mining-Hashrate header <.<

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September 16, 2013, 04:05:36 PM
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The pool estimates your hash rate based on the number of shares submitted.  There is no other way to know your hash rate pool-side.
X-Mining-Hashrate header <.<

Rephrase: There is no other reliable and trusted way to know your hash rate pool-side. Smiley

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September 17, 2013, 09:40:42 AM
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What a lucky streak lately!! Lets keep it up. Smiley
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September 18, 2013, 02:17:51 PM
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I could be mistaken here but I don't think my unpaid balance and the others were updated after the last block was found. I only noticed because it was such a long round.

Edit: Maybe the last 2 blocks found have not been added...
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September 18, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
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stats broken or something?

the charts and hashrates dont seem to be updated for a few hours

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September 18, 2013, 04:03:57 PM
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That was a quick turnaround, Thanks WizKid057.
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September 18, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
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stats broken or something?

the charts and hashrates dont seem to be updated for a few hours

That was a quick turnaround, Thanks WizKid057.

Reward system paused for a fail safe that hadn't been hit before.  

Technical:  The database sometimes has a few rows of shares out of order (database id not in sequence with the actual share time) because we're running multiple instances of eloipool.  It is pretty normal with the amount of traffic we have (something like 5000 shares per second).  The CPPSRB code compensates for this internally, so, its generally not a big deal.  Earlier a share ended up out of order by more than the defined margin for error in the code and the reward system paused automatically as a precaution, pending my verification and intervention.  Once I double checked everything and saw that there was no real issue, aside from this one share being a bit more delayed than normal in being put into the database, I allowed it to resume and it caught up within about 20 minutes.

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September 18, 2013, 05:51:48 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. Wow 5000  shares a second, that brings up a question. At some point will this number get so high that a minimum difficulty be set on the miner's side so so much traffic isn't being sent?
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September 18, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. Wow 5000  shares a second, that brings up a question. At some point will this number get so high that a minimum difficulty be set on the miner's side so so much traffic isn't being sent?

I've long argued that all pools, not just Eligius, should increase their global minimum difficulty.

At some point, in my opinion, permitting difficulty-1 shares is not helpful because it does not provide feedback to end-line miners that the overall network difficulty is increasing.  CPU miners should be met with slowly increasing pool difficulty, just like the global bitcoin difficulty increases over time.

Slow, inefficient miners need that economic feedback from the system.


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September 18, 2013, 06:21:11 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. Wow 5000  shares a second, that brings up a question. At some point will this number get so high that a minimum difficulty be set on the miner's side so so much traffic isn't being sent?

I've long argued that all pools, not just Eligius, should increase their global minimum difficulty.

At some point, in my opinion, permitting difficulty-1 shares is not helpful because it does not provide feedback to end-line miners that the overall network difficulty is increasing.  CPU miners should be met with slowly increasing pool difficulty, just like the global bitcoin difficulty increases over time.

Slow, inefficient miners need that economic feedback from the system.



I will probably start off by increasing the global minimum difficulty to 2 soon.

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September 18, 2013, 06:38:10 PM
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Astonishingly the PPS value of a difficulty 1 share is still above 1 bitcoin base unit.  I had previously tried to suggest that wizkid make the minimum at least 1 base unit PPS only to be surprised that it still was...

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September 18, 2013, 06:56:25 PM
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Astonishingly the PPS value of a difficulty 1 share is still above 1 bitcoin base unit.  I had previously tried to suggest that wizkid make the minimum at least 1 base unit PPS only to be surprised that it still was...



I may adopt an approach that keeps the PPS value of the lowest difficulty work from the pool above say 20 satoshi.

This would put us at diff 2 (powers of two) right now I believe.

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September 19, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
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Thanks for the explanation. Wow 5000  shares a second, that brings up a question. At some point will this number get so high that a minimum difficulty be set on the miner's side so so much traffic isn't being sent?

I've long argued that all pools, not just Eligius, should increase their global minimum difficulty.

At some point, in my opinion, permitting difficulty-1 shares is not helpful because it does not provide feedback to end-line miners that the overall network difficulty is increasing.  CPU miners should be met with slowly increasing pool difficulty, just like the global bitcoin difficulty increases over time.

Slow, inefficient miners need that economic feedback from the system.



I will probably start off by increasing the global minimum difficulty to 2 soon.

And my brief venture into the world of Eligius comes to an abrupt end.  Thanks for the warning, at least.
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September 19, 2013, 07:19:07 AM
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Seems to be 125 in payout queue? Only been mining here for a week or 2 but only ever seen it up to 50.
Is this normal?

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September 19, 2013, 07:25:09 AM
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I will probably start off by increasing the global minimum difficulty to 2 soon.

And my brief venture into the world of Eligius comes to an abrupt end.  Thanks for the warning, at least.
Why would the minimum difficulty make a difference ?

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September 19, 2013, 10:45:37 AM
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Seems to be 125 in payout queue? Only been mining here for a week or 2 but only ever seen it up to 50.
Is this normal?

Thanks

It happens.  I'll catch it up soon manually, no worries.

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September 20, 2013, 06:05:25 PM
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Hi,

I'm new to Eligius. It just seems to make so much sense Smiley.

Just curious - what happens to the transaction fees in this pool?
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September 20, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
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Just curious - what happens to the transaction fees in this pool?


Atm they are kept by the pool to pay for expenses + some reward for Luke and/or whizkid.
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