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Author Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #  (Read 417886 times)
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June 21, 2013, 02:44:21 AM
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Hmm, is there a good write up of the payout system here then? I guess I don't understand it completely.

You can find out all details on the FAQ page

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Whenever a block is found, the most recent 25 BTC (a CPPSRB round; one block reward/subsidy) worth of unpaid shares are paid.
Using the proportional concept of rounds, a long round results in the earlier shares being shoved into storage (shelved) rather than paid by the block, and a short round pays the entire round plus the most recent "storage" (shelved) shares found which were not already paid.

Compared to PPLNS, no share is ever paid twice, but old shares (that missed out on being rewarded due to poor luck in the past) have a chance to be paid when the pool is lucky.

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June 21, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
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Greetings Eligius Miners!

All seems smooth since I finished my patch to Eloipool to prevent a nasty memory leak/exploit/DoS (ugly patch here)

On a side note, in the #eligius IRC channel on Freenode I have organized a small BFL ASIC chip group buy.  There was some interest, so, we'll see if it can get off the ground quickly.  I'm not going to be doing anything related to the group buy on the forums, aside from this post about it and maybe some status posts.  Everything will be handled through IRC.  But, if you're interested its very reasonable.  Join us in #eligius on Freenode and check the topic for details.

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June 21, 2013, 11:39:13 AM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

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June 21, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)
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June 21, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......

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June 21, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......

Payment Queue FAQ:
http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq-3
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June 21, 2013, 03:00:42 PM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to
 the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......

Address?

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June 21, 2013, 04:17:15 PM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to
 the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......

Address?

1EcQfMnLsC85vi5sSSkVpFnNZNV7WjWsTD I'm number 18 in the que.....

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June 21, 2013, 06:32:09 PM
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Are people only paid "all or nothing" based on queue position? I always assumed you paid based on the specific shares that were in or out of the queue. So when a block is found, every recent miner will get paid for all recent work. So I don't see how it's possible a steady miner can get no payout.

Maybe I misunderstand how you structure the queue though. My implementation was going to, for example, pay on a 10M difficulty block 1/10M coins to each of the most recent 10M shares. Work done over 10M shares ago is in the queue for the following block, etc.

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June 21, 2013, 06:37:01 PM
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Ok I've been paid now. Please forgive my impatience:(

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June 21, 2013, 07:11:24 PM
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Ok I've been paid now. Please forgive my impatience:(

Yeah, it's not instant, and if you came from any of the other Tier 1 pools, things you may have been accustomed to just are not here. (Email alerts, individual rig stats, instant cash out, etc.) But what you get over time is a nice fair payout. I've been here about 60+ days and it has been very stable and earnings have been spot on. Wizkid057 is very responsive and helpful. When the pool wins, we all win. If we are down on our luck, shares go on the shelf to be paid when we hit a good streak. It just takes time and patience. This payout method ensures the pool does not go bankrupt. I believe in the near future with more hashrate from ASICs coming online we'll see faster payouts as we'll be solving more blocks.
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June 21, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
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Ok I've been paid now. Please forgive my impatience:(

Yeah, it's not instant, and if you came from any of the other Tier 1 pools, things you may have been accustomed to just are not here. (Email alerts, individual rig stats, instant cash out, etc.) But what you get over time is a nice fair payout. I've been here about 60+ days and it has been very stable and earnings have been spot on. Wizkid057 is very responsive and helpful. When the pool wins, we all win. If we are down on our luck, shares go on the shelf to be paid when we hit a good streak. It just takes time and patience. This payout method ensures the pool does not go bankrupt. I believe in the near future with more hashrate from ASICs coming online we'll see faster payouts as we'll be solving more blocks.

Believe it or not, I have everything you mentioned (highlighted in bold in your quote) in the works in some form or another.  I've even been beta testing a phone/SMS miner-is-down notification feature. Smiley

Thank you and everyone for the support. Smiley

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June 21, 2013, 08:30:14 PM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......
I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

I think there may be some ambiguity in the term "next block", as on the stats with regard to the payout queue it refers to the next block the pool finds, not necessarily the next block in the chain on the bitcoin network.  I think I will update that specific text to reflect this.

-wk

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June 22, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
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I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

2 blocks found since I entered que......still no payout Sad have maintained steady hashrate.......
I'm wondering when I'll be paid? I have just gone over the payment threshhold for the first time on this pool. We have since found a block, but the payment que has not changed.

Well...it all depends on the Payout Queue (right side of your personal stats page). When the Payout Queue is showing payout at next found block, then you'll just have to wait till that block is found...(technically you could be removed from the payout queue due to a lower relative contribution to the shares, but if you maintain a steady hashrate + pool-rate is steady, this is not likely)

I think there may be some ambiguity in the term "next block", as on the stats with regard to the payout queue it refers to the next block the pool finds, not necessarily the next block in the chain on the bitcoin network.  I think I will update that specific text to reflect this.

-wk

No they were blocks found by eligius. We got very lucky yesterday! A whole load come off the shelf Smiley

Thanks for the response, I am enjoying eligius a great deal. The CPPSRS system is an excellent notion Smiley

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June 22, 2013, 05:02:59 PM
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I have about .1928 in unpaid shares which should be enough to get in the payment queue, yes? 

For some reason, however, it says: 

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Approximately -0.02504574 BTC remaining to enter payout queue. Maintaining your 3 hour hashrate average, this will take at least another a few seconds at current network difficulty of 19339258.27.

How do I mine a negative amount of coins Smiley
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June 22, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
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I have about .1928 in unpaid shares which should be enough to get in the payment queue, yes? 

For some reason, however, it says: 

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Approximately -0.02504574 BTC remaining to enter payout queue. Maintaining your 3 hour hashrate average, this will take at least another a few seconds at current network difficulty of 19339258.27.

How do I mine a negative amount of coins Smiley


Usually just means the payout queue hasnt updated since you passed the threshold.... a minor cosmetic bug I have yet to fix.

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June 22, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
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I have about .1928 in unpaid shares which should be enough to get in the payment queue, yes? 

For some reason, however, it says: 

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Approximately -0.02504574 BTC remaining to enter payout queue. Maintaining your 3 hour hashrate average, this will take at least another a few seconds at current network difficulty of 19339258.27.

How do I mine a negative amount of coins Smiley


Usually just means the payout queue hasnt updated since you passed the threshold.... a minor cosmetic bug I have yet to fix.

You doing it all yourself mate? Doing a stellar job if I may say. Glad to see more people using the pool now. I think a lot of people spilled over from bitminter when they started to get DoSd.

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June 22, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
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Ok I've been paid now. Please forgive my impatience:(

Yeah, it's not instant, and if you came from any of the other Tier 1 pools, things you may have been accustomed to just are not here. (Email alerts, individual rig stats, instant cash out, etc.) But what you get over time is a nice fair payout. I've been here about 60+ days and it has been very stable and earnings have been spot on. Wizkid057 is very responsive and helpful. When the pool wins, we all win. If we are down on our luck, shares go on the shelf to be paid when we hit a good streak. It just takes time and patience. This payout method ensures the pool does not go bankrupt. I believe in the near future with more hashrate from ASICs coming online we'll see faster payouts as we'll be solving more blocks.

Yeah, I've been here about that long too. Had some problems starting out, but people helped me a lot and Wzkid was very patient with me.

Looks like we did get very lucky this weekend indeed. My payout estimator was at needing 1 day and 17 hours on Friday, and it was at 3 hours this morning.

Hah !

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June 23, 2013, 02:21:51 PM
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Does anyone know of a script or a way to alert myself when my workers go down?  Happened twice in the past two days for me due to a problem on my network but I'd like to get an e-mail when it happens, if possible.
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June 23, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
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I just switched to Eligius and testing running if I get a better return I will be hashing away? I just don't understand why more people don't use Eligius?

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