[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #

[bmoconno]

Thanks for the constant updates and all the work you're putting in WK!

[1l1l11ll1l]

I go to BTC from some HYIP project where i lost 33000$ last year. It's not trolling, just my opinion - eligius have 300 BTC on credit before database collision, now after 30+ blocks more than 1 000 000 dollars on credit... IMHO, it's scam already, you just give him more and more and more !

now this is interesting. I would like to hear more about it from others too. can this be true?

I too, would like to create a new troll account and ask these serious questions, as skilled as losing $33,000 as I am.

[ronin4bits]

I don't post here a lot - so I know what I speak of when I wonder aloud why Reyhs has spent about 7 of his 14 or 15 posts here, today, about this...   "Puppet" seems right.

I found Eligius after getting stuck for some coin when the asshole at BitClockers did what Reyhs thinks he sees here. This is not what's happening here - this is the best pool around, hands-down.

Thanks for everything wk!  

ps I am curious about your opinion on p2p, too, wk.

[wpt1wpt1]

I just miss not being able to see the work product of my electronic minions instantly, haaaaa for the good old days of swearing at hot and noisy video cards as they crash from overclocking and mining pools crashing hard every other day when you would really had to have the fail over set up correctly

[Reyhs]

in HYIP i don't have any doubt about scam, but i know eligius is not HYIP, so 50/50...

I smell a bet!

I propose we each put in 1 BTC.

If you win (Eligius never comes back up and this is a scam), you get my 1 BTC.

If I win (Eligius comes back up and continues normal operation), I donate your 1 BTC to the pool.

If you accept, we'll both send 1 BTC to escrow.

Would it be unfair if I also wanted to wager for Eligius coming back?

lol, Reyhs, who's sock puppet are you anyway?

Anyway, forum trolls aside, update on progress:

Data is importing into the new database server.  Its working well so far, pretty speedy.  Still a lot of data to move and organize.  As soon as the shares database has enough data to move forward I'm going to fire up CPPSRB to start some accounting on the data, since that will take a few hours at best and I should be able to finish the imports before it completes or gets close to the end of the data.

-wk

At now i see only two lost days and unknown time to start, day, week, month ? But somebody may still mining here, not me... Than if you so good as talk here - stop the pool and return when all is work because work on pool without statistics and payouts not right.

[wizkid057]

While your sitting there waiting for data to transfer, would you mind sharing your opinion on P2pool with us wizkid? I love this pool and it's all I've ever used (eligius that is - I used bitminter aaaages ago), but I feel the ethical thing to do would be to use p2p.

p2pool is a good concept, however it has some drawbacks (and advantages) over pools like Eligius.  While p2pool is decentralized, it doesn't have any way to iron out variance with a historical reward system such as CPPSRB.  There is also the issue of the fast work flushes/restarts with a lot of mining hardware that cause people to lose hash rate (and probably not even notice it if they don't use bfgminer which shows the pool-side accepted hash rate).

There are some theoretical attacks that can be performed on p2pool also that decrease miner earnings.  (I'm not sure how public the details information on this is so I'll refrain.)

p2pool may seem more DoS resistant, but, if you think about it, by using p2pool unless you use something like tor you're exposing your IP to all other p2pool users, good and bad.  Knocking out someone's ~20 megabit cable connection with a DoS is much simpler than knocking out a pool like Eligius with heavy DoS protections in place.  Knocking out the top miners on p2pool with a DDoS would likely be pretty trivial for a small botnet.  While that wouldn't kill p2pool, it would obviously increase variance.

*shrugs*

Overall, I prefer Eligius.  Lower variance, all data is available to miners to audit the pool's blocks and tons of data is already exposed via the open APIs.  Plus with the majority of payouts going directly to miners from the coinbase transaction (pretty sure Eligius did this before p2pool? {citation needed}) user funds are never really in the pool's hands per se.  With most pools the blocks always pay the pool and you just trust the pool to not run off with the coins or otherwise mess up and not pay you.

Back to database work...

-wk

[1l1l11ll1l]

in HYIP i don't have any doubt about scam, but i know eligius is not HYIP, so 50/50...

I smell a bet!

I propose we each put in 1 BTC.

If you win (Eligius never comes back up and this is a scam), you get my 1 BTC.

If I win (Eligius comes back up and continues normal operation), I donate your 1 BTC to the pool.

If you accept, we'll both send 1 BTC to escrow.

Would it be unfair if I also wanted to wager for Eligius coming back?

lol, Reyhs, who's sock puppet are you anyway?

Anyway, forum trolls aside, update on progress:

Data is importing into the new database server.  Its working well so far, pretty speedy.  Still a lot of data to move and organize.  As soon as the shares database has enough data to move forward I'm going to fire up CPPSRB to start some accounting on the data, since that will take a few hours at best and I should be able to finish the imports before it completes or gets close to the end of the data.

-wk

At now i see only two lost days and unknown time to start, day, week, month ? But somebody may still mining here, not me... Than if you so good as talk here - stop the pool and return when all is work because work on pool without statistics and payouts not right.

Because it's keeping track of everything just fine, and it would be a pain in my ass for him to shut the pool down, not to mention costly having to run on pools with fees. Are you going to take the 1BTC bet or are you just a troll?

[spooderman]

My escrow offer remains for 10 more mins, then I gotta go to sleep. I imagine this is a simple troll though 

[1l1l11ll1l]

My escrow offer remains for 10 more mins, then I gotta go to sleep. I imagine this is a simple troll though  

I'll triple up your offer, troll: put up your 1BTC that Eligius is a scam, I'll put up 2BTC that it's 100% legit.

[bmoconno]

I haven't heard anything from him.  I'm guessing he's just a silly troll.

[Reyhs]

in HYIP i don't have any doubt about scam, but i know eligius is not HYIP, so 50/50...

I smell a bet!

I propose we each put in 1 BTC.

If you win (Eligius never comes back up and this is a scam), you get my 1 BTC.

If I win (Eligius comes back up and continues normal operation), I donate your 1 BTC to the pool.

If you accept, we'll both send 1 BTC to escrow.

Would it be unfair if I also wanted to wager for Eligius coming back?

lol, Reyhs, who's sock puppet are you anyway?

Anyway, forum trolls aside, update on progress:

Data is importing into the new database server.  Its working well so far, pretty speedy.  Still a lot of data to move and organize.  As soon as the shares database has enough data to move forward I'm going to fire up CPPSRB to start some accounting on the data, since that will take a few hours at best and I should be able to finish the imports before it completes or gets close to the end of the data.

-wk

At now i see only two lost days and unknown time to start, day, week, month ? But somebody may still mining here, not me... Than if you so good as talk here - stop the pool and return when all is work because work on pool without statistics and payouts not right.

Because it's keeping track of everything just fine, and it would be a pain in my ass for him to shut the pool down, not to mention costly having to run on pools with fees. Are you going to take the 1BTC bet or are you just a troll?

If here is a scam i lose more than 1 BTC, but i don't want to lose anything, that mens NO. So you not troll, but pool not payout right now. I give him 3 hours, if pool didn't work properly they totally means scam because 48+ hours is taken for repair. But it's not bet.

[ineedit]

I go to BTC from some HYIP project where i lost 33000$ last year. It's not trolling, just my opinion - eligius have 300 BTC on credit before database collision, now after 30+ blocks more than 1 000 000 dollars on credit... IMHO, it's scam already, you just give him more and more and more !

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Seriously?  You're going to try and accuse the most open of all of the mining pools of being a scam? I literally lol'd.  
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I reckon it is wizz'es girlfriend that is being scammed, just another half hour dear, then I will see to you, honest  

[1l1l11ll1l]

I go to BTC from some HYIP project where i lost 33000$ last year. It's not trolling, just my opinion - eligius have 300 BTC on credit before database collision, now after 30+ blocks more than 1 000 000 dollars on credit... IMHO, it's scam already, you just give him more and more and more !

...
Seriously?  You're going to try and accuse the most open of all of the mining pools of being a scam? I literally lol'd.  
...

I reckon it is wizz'es girlfriend that is being scammed, just another half hour dear, then I will see to you, honest  

Now that made me lol

[1l1l11ll1l]

in HYIP i don't have any doubt about scam, but i know eligius is not HYIP, so 50/50...

I smell a bet!

I propose we each put in 1 BTC.

If you win (Eligius never comes back up and this is a scam), you get my 1 BTC.

If I win (Eligius comes back up and continues normal operation), I donate your 1 BTC to the pool.

If you accept, we'll both send 1 BTC to escrow.

Would it be unfair if I also wanted to wager for Eligius coming back?

lol, Reyhs, who's sock puppet are you anyway?

Anyway, forum trolls aside, update on progress:

Data is importing into the new database server.  Its working well so far, pretty speedy.  Still a lot of data to move and organize.  As soon as the shares database has enough data to move forward I'm going to fire up CPPSRB to start some accounting on the data, since that will take a few hours at best and I should be able to finish the imports before it completes or gets close to the end of the data.

-wk

At now i see only two lost days and unknown time to start, day, week, month ? But somebody may still mining here, not me... Than if you so good as talk here - stop the pool and return when all is work because work on pool without statistics and payouts not right.

Because it's keeping track of everything just fine, and it would be a pain in my ass for him to shut the pool down, not to mention costly having to run on pools with fees. Are you going to take the 1BTC bet or are you just a troll?

If here is a scam i lose more than 1 BTC, but i don't want to lose anything, that mens NO. So you not troll, but pool not payout right now. I give him 3 hours, if pool didn't work properly they totally means scam because 48+ hours is taken for repair. But it's not bet.

3 hours. You came up with that figure based on your extensive knowledge of...?

[Reyhs]

Bla... bla... bla... pool still not pay.

3 hours. You came up with that figure based on your extensive knowledge of...?

So somebody talk about infinite time to wait and 2 BTC but in infinite i never win, because of it 3 hour. Why want to take bet ?

[CeeCee]

Bla... bla... bla... pool still not pay.

3 hours. You came up with that figure based on your extensive knowledge of...?

So somebody talk about infinite time to wait and 2 BTC but in infinite i never win, because of it 3 hour. Why want to take bet ?

[1l1l11ll1l]

Bla... bla... bla... pool still not pay.

3 hours. You came up with that figure based on your extensive knowledge of...?

So somebody talk about infinite time to wait and 2 BTC but in infinite i never win, because of it 3 hour. Why want to take bet ?

Ahhh, [ DO NOT POST SESC LINKS ]there[/url] it is.

[ScaryHash]

Ok, software, server or DDoS collision, thats sounds better ? I talk only my opinion about that situation, situation looks like scam, smell like scam, etc. IMHO.

A very humble opinion. Like bugs are humble. And mud is humble.

Exercise your humility and keep your opinion to yourself during this time. WK doesn't need to waste effort on humble minds opinions. This outage has been handled professionally and there is no one who has put any amount of effort into reading the history of this pool who would doubt the effort occurring right now to bring the stats back online.

Yes, that outage is professionally handled. IYKWIM.

Wz doesn't charge a pool fee, and I think for that and other reasons, he deserves quite a bit slack here.

If you don't like it, there are other pools out there. Lots of pools have had database problems and delayed payouts. This is nothing new.

Lets move along and let the man do his work without whining about it.

[wizkid057]

Data still importing and sorting...

I reckon it is wizz'es girlfriend that is being scammed, just another half hour dear, then I will see to you, honest 

Yep, she's actually getting quite pissed at me at this point

[Reyhs]

Ok, software, server or DDoS collision, thats sounds better ? I talk only my opinion about that situation, situation looks like scam, smell like scam, etc. IMHO.

A very humble opinion. Like bugs are humble. And mud is humble.

Exercise your humility and keep your opinion to yourself during this time. WK doesn't need to waste effort on humble minds opinions. This outage has been handled professionally and there is no one who has put any amount of effort into reading the history of this pool who would doubt the effort occurring right now to bring the stats back online.

Yes, that outage is professionally handled. IYKWIM.

Wz doesn't charge a pool fee, and I think for that and other reasons, he deserves quite a bit slack here.

If you don't like it, there are other pools out there. Lots of pools have had database problems and delayed payouts. This is nothing new.

Lets move along and let the man do his work without whining about it.

Ok, ok i just tell you my opinion. But payouts still not work. My BTC still not in my wallet.