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Author Topic: [OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #  (Read 447710 times)
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November 07, 2013, 04:24:51 AM
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Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation?
I mean, there was 100% paid event in mid-March, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?


Not sure where you're getting your data from.  There hasn't been a "100% paid event" pool-wide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago.

The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000".
I may be misunderstanding smth.
I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph.
I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly?
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November 07, 2013, 08:17:12 AM
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whoah, 7 hrs and still going, record size shares.. i guess we will be seeing a lot more of these.. :/
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November 07, 2013, 08:54:02 AM
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well.. shit
I was hoping it was some statistics frozen screw up like couple of nights ago...

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November 07, 2013, 09:16:07 AM
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whoah, 7 hrs and still going, record size shares.. i guess we will be seeing a lot more of these.. :/

Forgive my ignorance, but what does this mean?

I noticed a major slowdown in unpaid balance increases myself on Eligius.
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November 07, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
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it's like this,
we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block.
usually it takes form 5-10 minutes to 2-2.5 hours for pool to solve block.
well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.
 

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November 07, 2013, 09:53:03 AM
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Thanx, man. Smiley
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November 07, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
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it's like this,
we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block.
usually it takes form 5-10 minutes to 2-2.5 hours for pool to solve block.
well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.
 

See it like looking for a needle in a haystack, where we most of the time find the needle very fast, as difficulty increases, theres more hay, in a bigger space for each increase. we can still be lucky, but luck always evens out.. And this is what we see now, streak of luck in recent past, and now we get to eat it up..
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November 07, 2013, 10:29:12 AM
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I hope we are not getting hammered by the "Selfish Miner" attack.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2060840/selfish-miner-attack-could-devastate-bitcoin-researchers-say.html
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November 07, 2013, 10:37:25 AM
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Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation?
I mean, there was 100% paid event in mid-March, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?


Not sure where you're getting your data from.  There hasn't been a "100% paid event" pool-wide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago.

The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000".
I may be misunderstanding smth.
I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph.
I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly?
If you are reading that right, a miner who started mining at block height 210000 would have been 100% paid on 2013-03-11.  However, miners who started before that wouldn't necessarily be 100% paid.  The chart doesn't include bad luck from prior to block height 21000, whatever day that was.
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November 07, 2013, 10:46:04 AM
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it's like this,
we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block.
usually it takes form 5-10 minutes to 2-2.5 hours for pool to solve block.
well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.
 

See it like looking for a needle in a haystack, where we most of the time find the needle very fast, as difficulty increases, theres more hay, in a bigger space for each increase. we can still be lucky, but luck always evens out.. And this is what we see now, streak of luck in recent past, and now we get to eat it up..

about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block.
according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is  at least of 10% the total network hash.
the probability of NOT finding the next block  is 9/10 =90 %.
the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance!
So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical  problem with the pool.

Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.
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November 07, 2013, 11:06:51 AM
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the problems continue
is impossible mining with this pool

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November 07, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
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the problems continue
is impossible mining with this pool

Tired of this useless trolling.

Just an unlucky round.  Pool is functioning normally.

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November 07, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
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I've had no probs with St. Elsewhere til now.
In fact its the only place I've mined.
The KNC quick setup hooked me in.
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November 07, 2013, 11:14:39 AM
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I've had no probs with St. Elsewhere til now.
In fact its the only place I've mined.
The KNC quick setup hooked me in.

And you're still not having any problems.  Again, just an unlucky round.  It happens.

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November 07, 2013, 11:16:57 AM
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Not complaining, just wondering. Thanks for responding.

The St. Elsewhere ref is to the old TV show, not a troll.
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November 07, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
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about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block.
according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is  at least of 10% the total network hash.
the probability of NOT finding the next block  is 9/10 =90 %.
the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance!
So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical  problem with the pool.

Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.


This round is at about 9xD. Unusual, and unlucky - only about 0.0001 of rounds (0.01%) can be expected to go longer. But the pool has solved thousands of rounds, so one round this long is quite possible. Lots of rounds at 9xD are a problem. Recently, Eligius has been more lucky than unlucky.

Anyone know how many rounds Eligius has solved so far?


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November 07, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
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Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation?
I mean, there was 100% paid event in mid-March, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?


Not sure where you're getting your data from.  There hasn't been a "100% paid event" pool-wide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago.

The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000".
I may be misunderstanding smth.
I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph.
I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly?
If you are reading that right, a miner who started mining at block height 210000 would have been 100% paid on 2013-03-11.  However, miners who started before that wouldn't necessarily be 100% paid.  The chart doesn't include bad luck from prior to block height 21000, whatever day that was.
Thanks, I get it now. Just didn't notice it's essentially the dual graph. Timescale differs a bit.
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November 07, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
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We just found a block Cheesy

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November 07, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
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about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block.
according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is  at least of 10% the total network hash.
the probability of NOT finding the next block  is 9/10 =90 %.
the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance!
So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical  problem with the pool.

Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.


This round is at about 9xD. Unusual, and unlucky - only about 0.0001 of rounds (0.01%) can be expected to go longer. But the pool has solved thousands of rounds, so one round this long is quite possible. Lots of rounds at 9xD are a problem. Recently, Eligius has been more lucky than unlucky.


Yes I  understand your point. I was wrong.
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November 07, 2013, 12:04:46 PM
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the problems continue
is impossible mining with this pool

Tired of this useless trolling.

Just an unlucky round.  Pool is functioning normally.

iam not trolling

You can view the statistics
stop working since  01:00 yesterday
and today I tried to connect was always error

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