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November 07, 2013, 04:24:51 AM 

Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation? I mean, there was 100% paid event in midMarch, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?
Not sure where you're getting your data from. There hasn't been a "100% paid event" poolwide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago. The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000". I may be misunderstanding smth. I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph. I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly?









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driksson


November 07, 2013, 08:17:12 AM 

whoah, 7 hrs and still going, record size shares.. i guess we will be seeing a lot more of these.. :/




vpasic


November 07, 2013, 08:54:02 AM 

well.. shit I was hoping it was some statistics frozen screw up like couple of nights ago...

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FarSky7


November 07, 2013, 09:16:07 AM 

whoah, 7 hrs and still going, record size shares.. i guess we will be seeing a lot more of these.. :/
Forgive my ignorance, but what does this mean? I noticed a major slowdown in unpaid balance increases myself on Eligius.




vpasic


November 07, 2013, 09:49:52 AM 

it's like this, we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block. usually it takes form 510 minutes to 22.5 hours for pool to solve block. well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.

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FarSky7


November 07, 2013, 09:53:03 AM 

Thanx, man.




driksson


November 07, 2013, 10:22:58 AM 

it's like this, we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block. usually it takes form 510 minutes to 22.5 hours for pool to solve block. well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.
See it like looking for a needle in a haystack, where we most of the time find the needle very fast, as difficulty increases, theres more hay, in a bigger space for each increase. we can still be lucky, but luck always evens out.. And this is what we see now, streak of luck in recent past, and now we get to eat it up..




FarSky7


November 07, 2013, 10:29:12 AM 





The00Dustin


November 07, 2013, 10:37:25 AM 

Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation? I mean, there was 100% paid event in midMarch, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?
Not sure where you're getting your data from. There hasn't been a "100% paid event" poolwide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago. The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000". I may be misunderstanding smth. I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph. I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly? If you are reading that right, a miner who started mining at block height 210000 would have been 100% paid on 20130311. However, miners who started before that wouldn't necessarily be 100% paid. The chart doesn't include bad luck from prior to block height 21000, whatever day that was.




justanickname


November 07, 2013, 10:46:04 AM 

it's like this, we all got rewarded with our shares every time we (pool) solve one block. usually it takes form 510 minutes to 22.5 hours for pool to solve block. well we are solving this one for almost 9 hours.
See it like looking for a needle in a haystack, where we most of the time find the needle very fast, as difficulty increases, theres more hay, in a bigger space for each increase. we can still be lucky, but luck always evens out.. And this is what we see now, streak of luck in recent past, and now we get to eat it up.. about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block. according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is at least of 10% the total network hash. the probability of NOT finding the next block is 9/10 =90 %. the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance! So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical problem with the pool. Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.




helmax


November 07, 2013, 11:06:51 AM 

the problems continue is impossible mining with this pool

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November 07, 2013, 11:13:14 AM 

the problems continue is impossible mining with this pool
Tired of this useless trolling. Just an unlucky round. Pool is functioning normally.




FarSky7


November 07, 2013, 11:13:31 AM 

I've had no probs with St. Elsewhere til now. In fact its the only place I've mined. The KNC quick setup hooked me in.




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November 07, 2013, 11:14:39 AM 

I've had no probs with St. Elsewhere til now. In fact its the only place I've mined. The KNC quick setup hooked me in.
And you're still not having any problems. Again, just an unlucky round. It happens.




FarSky7


November 07, 2013, 11:16:57 AM 

Not complaining, just wondering. Thanks for responding.
The St. Elsewhere ref is to the old TV show, not a troll.




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November 07, 2013, 11:29:41 AM 

about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block. according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is at least of 10% the total network hash. the probability of NOT finding the next block is 9/10 =90 %. the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance! So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical problem with the pool.
Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.
This round is at about 9xD. Unusual, and unlucky  only about 0.0001 of rounds (0.01%) can be expected to go longer. But the pool has solved thousands of rounds, so one round this long is quite possible. Lots of rounds at 9xD are a problem. Recently, Eligius has been more lucky than unlucky. Anyone know how many rounds Eligius has solved so far?




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November 07, 2013, 11:37:44 AM 

Does the variance graph on the main stats page reflect cumulative luck since the start of operation? I mean, there was 100% paid event in midMarch, does it include shelved shares from SMPPS times?
Not sure where you're getting your data from. There hasn't been a "100% paid event" poolwide since the SMPPS system was lucky and had a buffer about 2 years ago. The variance graphs are exactly as stated.... the earnings of "a hypothetical 1GH miner who started mining at Eligius at block height 210000". I may be misunderstanding smth. I'm looking at "Eligius Reward Variance" graph. I can see 0% est_shelved (100% est_paid) on march 11, 2013. What does it mean exactly? If you are reading that right, a miner who started mining at block height 210000 would have been 100% paid on 20130311. However, miners who started before that wouldn't necessarily be 100% paid. The chart doesn't include bad luck from prior to block height 21000, whatever day that was. Thanks, I get it now. Just didn't notice it's essentially the dual graph. Timescale differs a bit.




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November 07, 2013, 11:48:44 AM 

We just found a block




justanickname


November 07, 2013, 11:49:11 AM 

about 60 blocks were found since this pool last block. according to bitcoinwatch.com the pool is at least of 10% the total network hash. the probability of NOT finding the next block is 9/10 =90 %. the probability of NOT finding 60 blocks in a row is (9/10)^60=0.001 which is 0.1% or 1 in a 1000 chance! So I am 99.9% sure that there is a technical problem with the pool.
Edit: 9/20^60= 0.017 and 9/10^65=0.001.we already got to 65 block in a row.
This round is at about 9xD. Unusual, and unlucky  only about 0.0001 of rounds (0.01%) can be expected to go longer. But the pool has solved thousands of rounds, so one round this long is quite possible. Lots of rounds at 9xD are a problem. Recently, Eligius has been more lucky than unlucky. Yes I understand your point. I was wrong.




helmax


November 07, 2013, 12:04:46 PM 

the problems continue is impossible mining with this pool
Tired of this useless trolling. Just an unlucky round. Pool is functioning normally. iam not trolling You can view the statistics stop working since 01:00 yesterday and today I tried to connect was always error

looking job



