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November 03, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
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Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.

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November 03, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
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Can I somehow override my difficulty at the pool?
I am running a KNC Jupiter with avg hashrate of 480 GHash/s but it seems there are faulty cores and eligius shows only 400Ghahs/s.
So I am trying to tweak it now.

ALL (5s):495.6G (avg):489.2Gh/s | A:4984009  R:35710  HW:1708797  WU:7647.5/m
KnC 0:                | 495.1G/489.2Gh/s | A:4983247 R:35710 HW:1708387 WU: 7647.7/m

Will lowering difficulty from 127 to 63 help mitigate HW errors?

You have insane hardware error rate.
As for diff setting - in fact I would set it to 256

In case someone else has underperforming jupiter then:

Firmware 0.98 cured error rate and jupiter is now hashing as advertised.
Also there was a foil under one heatsink which I removed.

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November 03, 2013, 07:03:57 PM
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Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.
Actually, some mining connections are having a problem...

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November 03, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
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Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.
Not true. Some miners not connect to eligius, mean Bitfury miners. Did not receive job = 0 Gh/s.
I try different address, config, manual restart. Nothing work. Is a recurrent problem, which I reported and others here. Unfortunately, we received no reply. But if the other pool operates without such problems, I'm not going to continue to suffer.
Finally I get all my miners move to ghash.io and old good Slush as failover.
Thx wizkid for all hard work, but I don't have time still watching the pool alive.


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November 04, 2013, 03:51:43 AM
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Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.
Not true. Some miners not connect to eligius, mean Bitfury miners. Did not receive job = 0 Gh/s.
I try different address, config, manual restart. Nothing work. Is a recurrent problem, which I reported and others here. Unfortunately, we received no reply. But if the other pool operates without such problems, I'm not going to continue to suffer.
Finally I get all my miners move to ghash.io and old good Slush as failover.
Thx wizkid for all hard work, but I don't have time still watching the pool alive.



I was having a hell of a time earlier trying to connect using pool url stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
which I had been using fine for long period of time. Switched it to stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334
and now works fine again. Weird..

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November 04, 2013, 04:06:47 AM
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Am I missing something???
Received last payment at 12:19 PM today but since then Eligius found 24 blocks and my User stats Page indicates each block brings me only 0.0225 BTC. I own about 0.00245% of the pool so each block should get me something closer to 0.061BTC. What 's going on??? Am I the only miner with that issue???

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AeKpG55tgrzTw5jgQynEGsLe8QCPnGpmH

Thanks for the help. Shocked
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November 04, 2013, 04:29:03 AM
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Received last payment at 12:19 PM today but since then Eligius found 24 blocks and my User stats Page indicates each block brings me only 0.0225 BTC. I own about 0.00245% of the pool so each block should get me something closer to 0.061BTC. What 's going on??? Am I the only miner with that issue???
0.02245 * 25 BTC = 0.56125 BTC
Estimated Change:   +0.05160145 BTC

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November 04, 2013, 05:09:12 AM
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I am not sure I understand quiet well the answer.
25 blocks were found since my last payment. My network share is about 0.24% during that period so I can expect a current outstanding balance of 25blocks*25btc*0.0024=1.5 btc. My balance is only 0.58Btc so what is wrong with my calculation.
Thanks for your time Smiley
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November 04, 2013, 07:09:40 AM
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What 's going on??? Am I the only miner with that issue???


Nope. My block rewards used to be ~ +0.01700000 BTC Now its @ +0.00330063 BTC and i have 100% shaes rewarded. Something wrong
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November 04, 2013, 12:21:51 PM
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I'm also seeeing a big drop in reward. And for the first time i'm almost at 100% shares rewarded.....

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November 04, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
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Anyone else's hashrate randomly drop? It's killing me. BFGminer showing lots of (unknown work).

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November 04, 2013, 12:33:20 PM
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I'm also seeeing a big drop in reward. And for the first time i'm almost at 100% shares rewarded.....


In the last couple of weeks, Eligius has gone from a pool of about 225 TH/s to a pool of ~500 TH/s.

As the hashrate of the pool increases, your individual share of the pool will decrease unless you add hashrate proportional to the growth of the pool.

Therefore, as the pool grows, your individual payout per-block will drop, unless you increase your hash power, as above.

However, since the pool's overall hashpower has increased, the pool will find more blocks - and the increase in blocks * your new smaller payout per-block will even out, and your overall payout per day should not be significantly different - and the variance in your payout should be less - that is, your payout should be more predictable in a given time frame.

If you are finding that you are actually making less BTC per day, then there may be a problem - but it is expected that you will see a smaller per-block payout as the pool grows larger.

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November 04, 2013, 12:39:56 PM
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plus the fact that there are no stats to see the payout history to do a proper checking.

How do ppl still trust this pool?
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November 04, 2013, 01:28:43 PM
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Trust is something you earn , and Eligius did that for me.
Thank you guys at Eligius!

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In the last couple of weeks, Eligius has gone from a pool of about 225 TH/s to a pool of ~500 TH/s.

As the hashrate of the pool increases, your individual share of the pool will decrease unless you add hashrate proportional to the growth of the pool.

Therefore, as the pool grows, your individual payout per-block will drop, unless you increase your hash power, as above.

You are very correct but how can you explain the following:

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Unpaid Balance   Shares Rewarded
As of last block:   0.42229832 BTC   100.00%
Estimated Change:   +0.01319422 BTC   0.00%
Estimated Total:   0.43549254 BTC   100.00%
Hashrate Average   Weighted Shares   12 hours   1,091.67 Gh/s   10980294   3 hours   1,100.33 Gh/s   2766848   22.5 minutes   1,047.39 Gh/s   329216   256 seconds   1,322.86 Gh/s   78849   128 seconds   1,364.06 Gh/s   40652

I own based on the 3 hours average 0.0023% of the network hash power or 0.0575 BTC per block and Eligius tells me the Estimated Change should be 0.0131. We are off by a factor close to 4 and this is the point I do not understand and I hope someone here can explain!!!

Thanks.
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November 04, 2013, 02:23:03 PM
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I'm also seeeing a big drop in reward. And for the first time i'm almost at 100% shares rewarded.....


In the last couple of weeks, Eligius has gone from a pool of about 225 TH/s to a pool of ~500 TH/s.

As the hashrate of the pool increases, your individual share of the pool will decrease unless you add hashrate proportional to the growth of the pool.

Therefore, as the pool grows, your individual payout per-block will drop, unless you increase your hash power, as above.

However, since the pool's overall hashpower has increased, the pool will find more blocks - and the increase in blocks * your new smaller payout per-block will even out, and your overall payout per day should not be significantly different - and the variance in your payout should be less - that is, your payout should be more predictable in a given time frame.

If you are finding that you are actually making less BTC per day, then there may be a problem - but it is expected that you will see a smaller per-block payout as the pool grows larger.


This is all correct.  Thank you.



plus the fact that there are no stats to see the payout history to do a proper checking.

How do ppl still trust this pool?


The "Latest Payouts" section of the stats was disabled because its design was not scalable. You're welcome to take the time recode it, since I haven't had the time.  In the meantime, you can easily confirm your payouts with the blockchain itself or through blockchain.info or the like.  The data used for the latest payout list is also exposed in the Eligius API.

There are several miners who regularly use the API data to "audit" Eligius, and everything always checks out down the the satoshi.  You're welcome to do the same, its a completely public API.

I'll point out again that Eligius is the most transparent of all of the mining pools.  I'd be confused if anyone trusted another pool more than Eligius.



Anyone else's hashrate randomly drop? It's killing me. BFGminer showing lots of (unknown work).

I have had a few people report this issue, very rarely, over the past several months but have never been able to identify a cause.  If its able to be replicated perhaps you can get with Luke-Jr and try to figure out the problem. Undecided



Received last payment at 12:19 PM today but since then Eligius found 24 blocks and my User stats Page indicates each block brings me only 0.0225 BTC. I own about 0.00245% of the pool so each block should get me something closer to 0.061BTC. What 's going on??? Am I the only miner with that issue???
0.02245 * 25 BTC = 0.56125 BTC
Estimated Change:   +0.05160145 BTC
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In the last couple of weeks, Eligius has gone from a pool of about 225 TH/s to a pool of ~500 TH/s.

As the hashrate of the pool increases, your individual share of the pool will decrease unless you add hashrate proportional to the growth of the pool.

Therefore, as the pool grows, your individual payout per-block will drop, unless you increase your hash power, as above.

You are very correct but how can you explain the following:

11 - 1AeKpG55tgrzTw5jgQynEGsLe8QCPnGpmH

Unpaid Balance   Shares Rewarded
As of last block:   0.42229832 BTC   100.00%
Estimated Change:   +0.01319422 BTC   0.00%
Estimated Total:   0.43549254 BTC   100.00%
Hashrate Average   Weighted Shares   12 hours   1,091.67 Gh/s   10980294   3 hours   1,100.33 Gh/s   2766848   22.5 minutes   1,047.39 Gh/s   329216   256 seconds   1,322.86 Gh/s   78849   128 seconds   1,364.06 Gh/s   40652

I own based on the 3 hours average 0.0023% of the network hash power or 0.0575 BTC per block and Eligius tells me the Estimated Change should be 0.0131. We are off by a factor close to 4 and this is the point I do not understand and I hope someone here can explain!!!

Thanks.

I think this person was expecting a proportional payout of each block?  Proportional payouts are flawed.  We don't use it.  We use a much more sane reward system.  See CPPSRB FAQ.




Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.
Actually, some mining connections are having a problem...
(and similar posts)

The issue seems to revolve around cgminer's proprietary implementation of how to handle a DNS response with multiple A records.  Current Eligius uses several IPs in a DNS round robin, but cgminer only tries one of them.  If one of the IPs has any issue (it happens) the expected behavior is to try another, which cgminer doesn't do.

At the time in question, one of the four IPs used for mining was not responding.

However, conman believes he has addressed this with cgminer 3.7.0.  Anyone using cgminer should probably upgrade.


Thanks again for mining Eligius! Smiley

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November 04, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
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Anyone else's hashrate randomly drop? It's killing me. BFGminer showing lots of (unknown work).

I have had a few people report this issue, very rarely, over the past several months but have never been able to identify a cause.  If its able to be replicated perhaps you can get with Luke-Jr and try to figure out the problem. Undecided



I get it very rarely.  It's always when my ASICMiner Blades switch between mining directly to Eligius on Getwork and mining on Eligius through BFG's getwork proxy.  It usually sorts itself out after a 10-15 seconds.

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November 04, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
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Web server down for a moment.  Mining is fine.  No shares lost, as per usual.

Stats will be caught up shortly and I'll put the webserver back online.
Actually, some mining connections are having a problem...
(and similar posts)

The issue seems to revolve around cgminer's proprietary implementation of how to handle a DNS response with multiple A records.  Current Eligius uses several IPs in a DNS round robin, but cgminer only tries one of them.  If one of the IPs has any issue (it happens) the expected behavior is to try another, which cgminer doesn't do.

At the time in question, one of the four IPs used for mining was not responding.

However, conman believes he has addressed this with cgminer 3.7.0.  Anyone using cgminer should probably upgrade.


Thanks again for mining Eligius! Smiley

-wk

Its no cgminer issue but chainminer bundled in Bitfury rig.
Contrary to what you write cgminer in Avalon work without  problem Smiley I  reported a problem with the Bitfury (chainminer), no cgminer.
Restart stratum proxy in Bitfury rig did not help. Some times reboot RPi solve problem.

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November 04, 2013, 02:40:54 PM
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Its no cgminer issue but chainminer bundled in Bitfury rig.
Contrary to what you write cgminer in Avalon work without  problem Smiley I  reported a problem with the Bitfury (chainminer), no cgminer.
Restart stratum proxy in Bitfury rig did not help. Some times reboot RPi solve problem.

cgminer had a 1 out of 4 chance of being effected.

chainminer has been broken forever since it doesn't properly queue work when presented with relatively low difficulty work upon initial connection to Eligius.

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November 04, 2013, 02:43:20 PM
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Hi WK,

can you implement a supposed PPS reward so we can compare our reward to the PPS reward system?

It also helps to show how your system fair up to PPS in long term.
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