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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 243681 times)
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March 18, 2019, 11:59:51 PM
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My money is on thesnat21 to be able to make a GPU miner for BBP. He solved the riddle of the BLE headers and made a GPU for that.
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March 19, 2019, 12:24:33 AM
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My money is on thesnat21 to be able to make a GPU miner for BBP. He solved the riddle of the BLE headers and made a GPU for that.

TheSnat,  can you execute the AES512 encryption algorithm in your GPU miner and can you load the full KJV bible into its memory and duplicate the chaincalls?

What if I up the reward to 3 MM bbp?


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March 19, 2019, 12:39:14 AM
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My money is on thesnat21 to be able to make a GPU miner for BBP. He solved the riddle of the BLE headers and made a GPU for that.

TheSnat,  can you execute the AES512 encryption algorithm in your GPU miner and can you load the full KJV bible into its memory and duplicate the chaincalls?

What if I up the reward to 3 MM bbp?



oy, I was not going to worry about it ...  lol i smell a conspiracy Smiley
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March 19, 2019, 12:52:47 AM
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My money is on thesnat21 to be able to make a GPU miner for BBP. He solved the riddle of the BLE headers and made a GPU for that.

TheSnat,  can you execute the AES512 encryption algorithm in your GPU miner and can you load the full KJV bible into its memory and duplicate the chaincalls?

What if I up the reward to 3 MM bbp?



oy, I was not going to worry about it ...  lol i smell a conspiracy Smiley


Just take a look at the BibleHash algo and how much estimated memory it would take to load the KJV array in the GPU executing environment (this is from kjv.cpp), and tell is if you believe its technically possible to duplicate the chained bible hash calls, the AES512 call, the hash call and the concatenated result call in a GPU.  And how secure or not secure you feel that someone will figure it out knowing what you know about c libraries and GPU code programming.

Im not too worried about ASIC, I heard they have such limited memory that loading the bible in it would be preposterous also you need a specific designed chip with the bible that would cost a lot of R&D for the first batch.

Edit: btw guys when you execute one biblehash, it uses 33,000 verses of the bible in a certain hashed order (depending on each hash its different).  IE its memory intensive since the entire bible is memorized.



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March 19, 2019, 01:06:11 AM
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Just take a look at the BibleHash algo and how much estimated memory it would take to load the KJV array in the GPU executing environment (this is from kjv.cpp), and tell is if you believe its technically possible to duplicate the chained bible hash calls, the AES512 call, the hash call and the concatenated result call in a GPU.  And how secure or not secure you feel that someone will figure it out knowing what you know about c libraries and GPU code programming.

Im not too worried about ASIC, I heard they have such limited memory that loading the bible in it would be preposterous also you need a specific designed chip with the bible that would cost a lot of R&D for the first batch.

Edit: btw guys when you execute one biblehash, it uses 33,000 verses of the bible in a certain hashed order (depending on each hash its different).  IE its memory intensive since the entire bible is memorized.

I think it's possible, look at the memory requirement for cryptonight or ethereum,  it may have a performance hit due to the extra pieces.

ASIC's are possible, but not anywhere near cost effective (half a million R&D?)
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March 19, 2019, 01:12:41 AM
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Just take a look at the BibleHash algo and how much estimated memory it would take to load the KJV array in the GPU executing environment (this is from kjv.cpp), and tell is if you believe its technically possible to duplicate the chained bible hash calls, the AES512 call, the hash call and the concatenated result call in a GPU.  And how secure or not secure you feel that someone will figure it out knowing what you know about c libraries and GPU code programming.

Im not too worried about ASIC, I heard they have such limited memory that loading the bible in it would be preposterous also you need a specific designed chip with the bible that would cost a lot of R&D for the first batch.

Edit: btw guys when you execute one biblehash, it uses 33,000 verses of the bible in a certain hashed order (depending on each hash its different).  IE its memory intensive since the entire bible is memorized.

I think it's possible, look at the memory requirement for cryptonight or ethereum,  it may have a performance hit due to the extra pieces.

ASIC's are possible, but not anywhere near cost effective (half a million R&D?)


Ok, I have one reason I believe its not possible, let me e-mail you that reason and then please post if you believe it is not advantageous/feasible to port biblepay to GPU.



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March 19, 2019, 01:35:02 AM
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how long til sx is back?


Ill contact them and see if they would like to reopen in the next 48 hours.


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I think it's possible, look at the memory requirement for cryptonight or ethereum,  it may have a performance hit due to the extra pieces.

ASIC's are possible, but not anywhere near cost effective (half a million R&D?)


Ok, I have one reason I believe its not possible, let me e-mail you that reason and then please post if you believe it is not advantageous/feasible to port biblepay to GPU.


Ok based on that I would concede gpu performance would be stifled a great deal..   I'll admit you thought quite a bit when putting this together.
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March 19, 2019, 02:58:58 AM
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I updated the website, reddit and ANN post:

Reddit:  https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/
Website:  http://biblepay.org/
ANN:  https://pastebin.com/raw/NVYwJ72b

Let me know if anything is incorrect or missing

(Note: Rob you will have to apply the new ANN if you like it,
its based on latest copy of yours with some slight modifications)

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I also reached out to Masternodes.Online, they are having issue updating their daemon / syncing their chain, I gave them update/clean instructions

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March 19, 2019, 03:39:28 AM
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Togo I think that last link isn't quite right.
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March 19, 2019, 12:38:36 PM
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Southxchange is back
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March 19, 2019, 01:27:40 PM
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I updated the website, reddit and ANN post:

Reddit:  https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/
Website:  http://biblepay.org/
ANN:  https://pastebin.com/raw/NVYwJ72b

Let me know if anything is incorrect or missing

(Note: Rob you will have to apply the new ANN if you like it,
its based on latest copy of yours with some slight modifications)

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I also reached out to Masternodes.Online, they are having issue updating their daemon / syncing their chain, I gave them update/clean instructions

Updated.  Looks Good.

Thanks a lot Togo for your work, its always appreciated!


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March 19, 2019, 07:16:08 PM
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Economics in the reddit sidebar are still PODC-based. We should probably align to the new ANN post.
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March 19, 2019, 11:13:19 PM
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Economics in the reddit sidebar are still PODC-based. We should probably align to the new ANN post.

Hmmm, I noticed on my mobile phone the old version was cached,
on PC you can click ctrl + shift + R to do a hard reload of the page,
let me know if that works

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March 19, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
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My money is on thesnat21 to be able to make a GPU miner for BBP. He solved the riddle of the BLE headers and made a GPU for that.

TheSnat,  can you execute the AES512 encryption algorithm in your GPU miner and can you load the full KJV bible into its memory and duplicate the chaincalls?

What if I up the reward to 3 MM bbp?



oy, I was not going to worry about it ...  lol i smell a conspiracy Smiley


Just take a look at the BibleHash algo and how much estimated memory it would take to load the KJV array in the GPU executing environment (this is from kjv.cpp), and tell is if you believe its technically possible to duplicate the chained bible hash calls, the AES512 call, the hash call and the concatenated result call in a GPU.  And how secure or not secure you feel that someone will figure it out knowing what you know about c libraries and GPU code programming.

Im not too worried about ASIC, I heard they have such limited memory that loading the bible in it would be preposterous also you need a specific designed chip with the bible that would cost a lot of R&D for the first batch.

Edit: btw guys when you execute one biblehash, it uses 33,000 verses of the bible in a certain hashed order (depending on each hash its different).  IE its memory intensive since the entire bible is memorized.




ah, so "memorizing prayers" while the wallet is loading means that the whole bible is being stored into RAM?
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March 20, 2019, 12:08:35 AM
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Economics in the reddit sidebar are still PODC-based. We should probably align to the new ANN post.

Hmmm, I noticed on my mobile phone the old version was cached,
on PC you can click ctrl + shift + R to do a hard reload of the page,
let me know if that works
Right you are. How embarrassing for me. Smiley
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March 20, 2019, 12:37:05 AM
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ah, so "memorizing prayers" while the wallet is loading means that the whole bible is being stored into RAM?

Memorizing prayers is scanning messages for Prayers and formerly PODC/POG, and loading items into lists that need to be processed.

This has nothing to do with the bible verses, that is part of the hashing routine Smiley
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March 20, 2019, 01:03:31 AM
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ah, so "memorizing prayers" while the wallet is loading means that the whole bible is being stored into RAM?

Memorizing prayers is scanning messages for Prayers and formerly PODC/POG, and loading items into lists that need to be processed.

This has nothing to do with the bible verses, that is part of the hashing routine Smiley


OK, thanks.  I'm guessing the bible is stored in RAM for quick access while hashing?

I see here it takes up about 4mb (https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/5icdvq/request_how_big_would_a_txt_file_of_the_bible_be/).
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March 20, 2019, 02:30:23 AM
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OK, thanks.  I'm guessing the bible is stored in RAM for quick access while hashing?

I see here it takes up about 4mb (https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/5icdvq/request_how_big_would_a_txt_file_of_the_bible_be/).

Yes, like any other program you run Smiley


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March 20, 2019, 02:55:06 AM
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Got an email update from Cryptopia,  nice to see them alive again hopefully it wont be too long before they allow trading again.

Will be interesting when things go "live" again to see how much activity stays there..
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