BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)

[bible_pay]

is external miner also power saving when abn is low?
i'm not sure, because everytime i checked miner, it goes at full speed
it drops to 0 only when it crashed

Yes, it stops mining when ABN is out; and - it doesn't crash anymore.

[capulo]

i have this one downloaded yesterday and it crashed today

KJV Loaded
Using bbpminer version 1004
cpuminer 2.5.0
 built on Oct 14 2019
 features: x86_64 PHE SSE2 AVX AVX2 XOP
libcurl/7.67.0-DEV OpenSSL/1.1.0g zlib/1.2.8

[capulo]

should i set gen=0 ? because it seems that wallet is still mining, i want only external miner

[capulo]

is external miner also power saving when abn is low?
i'm not sure, because everytime i checked miner, it goes at full speed
it drops to 0 only when it crashed

Yes, it stops mining when ABN is out; and - it doesn't crash anymore.

is this idle?

Erroring out
[2019-10-17 08:55:57] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2019-10-17 08:56:27] BBP Core Mining Error:  Wallet Locked/ABN Required

it seems so, but miner is still consuming two cores... sometimes 3 cores
11263 capo      20   0 3125160  17060   9344 S 200.0  0.0  21825:34 bbpminer_linux

[bible_pay]

is external miner also power saving when abn is low?
i'm not sure, because everytime i checked miner, it goes at full speed
it drops to 0 only when it crashed

Yes, it stops mining when ABN is out; and - it doesn't crash anymore.

is this idle?

Erroring out
[2019-10-17 08:55:57] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2019-10-17 08:56:27] BBP Core Mining Error:  Wallet Locked/ABN Required

it seems so, but miner is still consuming two cores... sometimes 3 cores
11263 capo      20   0 3125160  17060   9344 S 200.0  0.0  21825:34 bbpminer_linux

Yes - thats idle on that particular thread.  And of course, erroring out is not a crash (We can take that message out).

Each thread takes a certain amount of seconds to quit hashing the current best block if its still a valid block to hash and has not asked for new work.

Has your processor utilization gone to zero after waiting for a block to pass while you have an invalid ABN?  

Yes, you can set gen=0 now, as long as you don't need to send GSCs out.

[bible_pay]

So as you all know I've been starting to work on a new pool that will give us stratum support.

I spent a couple days looking at p2pool, but I got slightly dissapointed with certain aspects of it.  (I don't really like all the hardcoded literals in the code).  At first I thought having python would be OK, because its a popular standard codebase.  But then I read some comments by the author of nomp, and I started checking out nomp.

I really like how nomp is written in Node.js and the code behind gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling that it will be easier to support in the long run.  Anyway, its mostly X11/darkcoin compatible already, so it shouldn't be a problem to make a BiblePay/NOMP pool.

From what I can see we don't lose anything with this approach - we still get stratum, we get a nice UI (the web presence is nice), and the code is clean.

So I took a new direction and will be porting a flavor of bbp into nomp:
https://github.com/zone117x/node-open-mining-portal

After all, our next pool should be an improvement for our users.  I reiterate, there is really nothing wrong with our c# pool, and we could have refactored it more, but I feel adding stratum to it at this stage would make it a redheaded stepchild, especially since many coins rely on Nomp and its support (as compared to a one off) - so I believe we are making a good move in embracing a standardized codebase for biblepay pools.

In addition, Nomp looks like its going to be easy for new devs to set one up when we need to scale to numerous pools.  I set one up last night and it was really pain free to get started.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Regarding the 'cryptocurrency economy' simulation project, that is going very well.  I created two graphs so far, and things are pointing towards the truth in the posts a few pages back (about making assumptions based on theoretical economic outcomes). 

That project needs a couple more days of work.  When its done Im going to publish the results in a new forum proposal thread, and summarize them, and - use that proposal for the potential changes.

Ill also upload the code into the contrib folder when its done.

[capulo]

is external miner also power saving when abn is low?
i'm not sure, because everytime i checked miner, it goes at full speed
it drops to 0 only when it crashed

Yes, it stops mining when ABN is out; and - it doesn't crash anymore.

is this idle?

Erroring out
[2019-10-17 08:55:57] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2019-10-17 08:56:27] BBP Core Mining Error:  Wallet Locked/ABN Required

it seems so, but miner is still consuming two cores... sometimes 3 cores
11263 capo      20   0 3125160  17060   9344 S 200.0  0.0  21825:34 bbpminer_linux

Yes - thats idle on that particular thread.  And of course, erroring out is not a crash (We can take that message out).

Each thread takes a certain amount of seconds to quit hashing the current best block if its still a valid block to hash and has not asked for new work.

Has your processor utilization gone to zero after waiting for a block to pass while you have an invalid ABN?  

Yes, you can set gen=0 now, as long as you don't need to send GSCs out.

i know this is not crash, when it was crash there was some libraries dump or what, not remember. but it does not happens again..

and it does not goes to zero, it using 1-3 cores at 100% so 100 or 200 or 300% when abn is low

[bible_pay]

is external miner also power saving when abn is low?
i'm not sure, because everytime i checked miner, it goes at full speed
it drops to 0 only when it crashed

Yes, it stops mining when ABN is out; and - it doesn't crash anymore.

is this idle?

Erroring out
[2019-10-17 08:55:57] json_rpc_call failed, retry after 30 seconds
[2019-10-17 08:56:27] BBP Core Mining Error:  Wallet Locked/ABN Required

it seems so, but miner is still consuming two cores... sometimes 3 cores
11263 capo      20   0 3125160  17060   9344 S 200.0  0.0  21825:34 bbpminer_linux

Yes - thats idle on that particular thread.  And of course, erroring out is not a crash (We can take that message out).

Each thread takes a certain amount of seconds to quit hashing the current best block if its still a valid block to hash and has not asked for new work.

Has your processor utilization gone to zero after waiting for a block to pass while you have an invalid ABN?  

Yes, you can set gen=0 now, as long as you don't need to send GSCs out.

i know this is not crash, when it was crash there was some libraries dump or what, not remember. but it does not happens again..

and it does not goes to zero, it using 1-3 cores at 100% so 100 or 200 or 300% when abn is low

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. 
Do me a favor, since Im working on some other things, please type 'getmininginfo' and when you see your ABN is out for sure, and the miner is still running more than 5 mins after the abn is out, type 'getblockforstratum' into the console of biblepay and tell me if it shows an Error: ABN weight low (or not).

This will point me in the right direction if its the biblepay client or the miner.

[sunk818]

Rob, what do you think of BiblePay sanctuaries serving as a VPN tunnel? Chinese Christians can get past the Great Firewall and look at Christian content (among other things) without being censored. It could be free as a way to build user base. Or if there was a charge, maybe  there could be a way to lock funds or send to a reserve account until you pay the sanctuaries that served you VPN bandwidth.

[bible_pay]

Rob, what do you think of BiblePay sanctuaries serving as a VPN tunnel? Chinese Christians can get past the Great Firewall and look at Christian content (among other things) without being censored. It could be free as a way to build user base. Or if there was a charge, maybe  there could be a way to lock funds or send to a reserve account until you pay the sanctuaries that served you VPN bandwidth.

Part of it sounds like a really good idea (the part about sharing Christian content directly to the user who can't get to the blocked content).  The part about a Chinese user getting in trouble for using a VPN, or getting the machine confiscated (or BBP to be blamed for creating a circumventing policy to their laws) seems like the downside.

Maybe if we strictly filter the access to be high quality Christian content, it would work, but in general it sounds like a very good idea - possibly if it was not a full fledged VPN - if it was more of a Christian content browser.  Maybe when we get the treasure trove up, we can point them to that landing page in DSQL, etc.

We should keep thinking about it.

[sunk818]

- POOM could be reduced in total size to reestablish/cap our *governance charity* emissions at 10%
...
- The increase in sanc payout coming soon is OK - because they lock the coins and hold them usually

POOM: I wrote about the sustainability of POOM: https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-poom-sustainable.html - I'll have to revisit this if the percentages change.

Sanc payout: With the rise in difficulty, sanc reward dips below 1000 BBP. You mentioned turning off Quantitative Tightening (QT). Can you expound on what  the impact of QT off, external miner release, changing sanc payout percentage will do overall to profitability for sanctuary holders?  This means subsidy (miner) and sanctuary_reward values will diverge in the future?

[togoshigekata]

Bisq (Decentralized Exchange)



How can Bisq avoid legal action for not being KYC/AML compliant?
https://www.reddit.com/r/bisq/comments/dj48ic/how_can_bisq_avoid_legal_action_for_not_being/

I tried the Bisq decentralized exchange
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/81q04l/i_tried_the_bisq_decentralized_exchange/

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Website
https://bisq.network/

CoinMarketCap
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/

Bitcointalk
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4509053.0

Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/bisq/

Telegram
https://t.me/bisq_p2p

Twitter
https://twitter.com/bisq_network

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Github
https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq

How to List an Asset
https://docs.bisq.network/exchange/howto/list-asset.html

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What are the top real decentralized exchanges?
I skim /r/Bitcoin a lot, Ive seen Bisq mentioned many times

[togoshigekata]

Dash: Introducing the Platform Chain
https://blog.dash.org/introducing-the-platform-chain-982fe6aea67f

Announcing a 1.21 BTC Core prize purse to re-build reddit on-chain with Bitcoin Cash.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/dja4xn/announcing_a_121_btc_core_prize_purse_to_rebuild/

[capulo]

i did few benchmarks with external miner (--benchmark parameter)

1. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 391.81 khash/s

2. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)
96GB (6x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 390.72 khash/s

3. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
running @ 3.10GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-164-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 574.62 khash/s

4. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650L v2 @ 1.70GHz
running @ 1.70GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-142-generic x86_64)
32GB (8x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 318.01 khash/s

5. HP DL160 G6
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520  @ 2.27GHz
running @ 2.27GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1066MHz)
Total: 161.14 khash/s

6. Intel SR1625URSAS
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650  @ 2.67GHz
running @ 2.67GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 274.16 khash/s

7. IBM System x3550 M3
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5660  @ 2.80GHz
running @ 2.80GHz
Ubuntu 17.10 (GNU/Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 288.88 khash/s

8. HP DL360e G8
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2420 v2 @ 2.20GHz
running @ 2.20Ghz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
24GB (12x 2GB @ 1333Mhz)
Total: 281.21 khash/s

seems that memory speed or configuration (dual/quad channel...) does not have big effect

bonus:
9. laptop Thinkpad P52s
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8650U CPU @ 1.90GHz
running somewhere @ 2.5-2.8GHz
Win10 Enterprise
16GB (2x 8GB @ 2400MHz)
Total: 133.21 khash/s

[sunk818]

How do I run multiple copies of BiblePay?
https://whitewalr.us/2019/run-multiple-copies-biblepay.html

[bible_pay]

- POOM could be reduced in total size to reestablish/cap our *governance charity* emissions at 10%
...
- The increase in sanc payout coming soon is OK - because they lock the coins and hold them usually

POOM: I wrote about the sustainability of POOM: https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-poom-sustainable.html - I'll have to revisit this if the percentages change.

Sanc payout: With the rise in difficulty, sanc reward dips below 1000 BBP. You mentioned turning off Quantitative Tightening (QT). Can you expound on what  the impact of QT off, external miner release, changing sanc payout percentage will do overall to profitability for sanctuary holders?  This means subsidy (miner) and sanctuary_reward values will diverge in the future?

On the potential proposed changes, let me see if I can generate the data (for the forum thread) and attempt to create the thread before the weekend is over, and Ill include the above in that post.

Right now, I finally was able to get NOMP running in my dev environment with the external miner hashing against it, and there are some issues with ABN, so Im trying to address these today, then I can clear out some normal time to focus on that asap.

[bible_pay]

i did few benchmarks with external miner (--benchmark parameter)

1. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 391.81 khash/s

2. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)
96GB (6x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 390.72 khash/s

3. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
running @ 3.10GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-164-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 574.62 khash/s

4. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650L v2 @ 1.70GHz
running @ 1.70GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-142-generic x86_64)
32GB (8x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 318.01 khash/s

5. HP DL160 G6
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520  @ 2.27GHz
running @ 2.27GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1066MHz)
Total: 161.14 khash/s

6. Intel SR1625URSAS
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650  @ 2.67GHz
running @ 2.67GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 274.16 khash/s

7. IBM System x3550 M3
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5660  @ 2.80GHz
running @ 2.80GHz
Ubuntu 17.10 (GNU/Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 288.88 khash/s

8. HP DL360e G8
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2420 v2 @ 2.20GHz
running @ 2.20Ghz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
24GB (12x 2GB @ 1333Mhz)
Total: 281.21 khash/s

seems that memory speed or configuration (dual/quad channel...) does not have big effect

bonus:
9. laptop Thinkpad P52s
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8650U CPU @ 1.90GHz
running somewhere @ 2.5-2.8GHz
Win10 Enterprise
16GB (2x 8GB @ 2400MHz)
Total: 133.21 khash/s

Nice work!

I see #3 really stands out.  I wonder why its almost 2* the speed yet the procs are only .20 ghz faster each?

#2, I do wonder if windows running on one of those high power boxes (like #3) will hash at approx the same speed.....

I assume it will, based on my ryzen windows desktop machine hashing at 350KHS.

[Nipar]

#3 is a hyperthreading 10 core times 2
it still averages about the same as other avx2 enabled processors.

[capulo]

#3 is v2 xeon, #1-2 is v1 thats all magic
and also it has 40 threads, 1-2 have 32 threads

[capulo]

i just found that lscpu is not always showing real frequency. when turbo is controlled by bios itself (not os) then it is showing wrong numbers - like turbo is not working ... but turbo was on

so i recheck and here is updated list. ~2.90 means that it was not stable at this freq. but avg was somewhere there

1. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
32 threads running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 391.81 khash/s

2. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
32 threads running @ 2.90GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-31-generic x86_64)
96GB (6x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 390.72 khash/s

3. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
40 threads running @ 3.10GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-164-generic x86_64)
128GB (8x 16GB @ 1600MHz)
Total: 574.62 khash/s

4. Lenovo C30
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650L v2 @ 1.70GHz
40 threads running @ 1.70GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-142-generic x86_64)
32GB (8x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 318.01 khash/s

5. HP DL160 G6
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5520  @ 2.27GHz
16 threads running @ 2.40GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-154-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1066MHz)
Total: 161.14 khash/s

6. Intel SR1625URSAS
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650  @ 2.67GHz
24 threads running @ ~2.75GHz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 274.16 khash/s

7. IBM System x3550 M3
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5660  @ 2.80GHz
24 threads running @ ~2.90GHz
Ubuntu 17.10 (GNU/Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64)
8GB (2x 4GB @ 1333MHz)
Total: 288.88 khash/s

8. HP DL360e G8
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2420 v2 @ 2.20GHz
24 threads running @ 2.50Ghz
Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-116-generic x86_64)
24GB (12x 2GB @ 1333Mhz)
Total: 281.21 khash/s

seems that memory speed or configuration (dual/quad channel...) does not have big effect

bonus:
9. laptop Thinkpad P52s
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8650U CPU @ 1.90GHz
8 threads running somewhere @ 2.5-2.8GHz
Win10 Enterprise
16GB (2x 8GB @ 2400MHz)
Total: 133.21 khash/s