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April 09, 2014, 08:11:45 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

Done. Thanks. Gadzooks man what's with the trust rating?

I think the pre-order thing could work if the company receiving the funds behaved honorably. Unfortunately that doesn't always happen and then the customers have to try to force the company to do what they said they would do.


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April 09, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
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Done. Thanks. Gadzooks man what's with the trust rating?

Inaba is paying for people to give him positive trust ratings. Is it working?

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April 09, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

Done. Thanks. Gadzooks man what's with the trust rating?

I think the pre-order thing could work if the company receiving the funds behaved honorably. Unfortunately that doesn't always happen and then the customers have to try to force the company to do what they said they would do.

hes BFL Josh - basically he is here to call anyone who bought his pre-orders an idiot  Roll Eyes

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April 09, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
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Let me get this, All batch 1 and batch 2 orders are out now right? I am batch 3 and i am still waiting for my refund since i request that already and get confirm by Erin on 15 january 2014.
I think end april the whole batch 3 are all out for shipping and refund part is also done.

For all batch 4 customers i think they need to wait till End May/ or Begin June before they process al the refund or rigs for batch 4 customers.

After then they begin MPP??  But still waiting for my refund, i will not say they right or something, but we will see if i get my refund a check or bankwire at least this month.

Inmagin for the people that ask their or asking now for their refund, how long will they processed that if i havent my refund jet as batch 3.

My conclusion is that they have no way to force unrealistic deadline times for refund, if they cant deliver someway or how they should refund directly after a customer ask for their refund.

I am now also waiting since 15 january for my refund. its now 9 april, just imagin how long i wait for my refund since.. we not talking about hunderds, but albout thousand of dollars.. and just per customer..  its about millions if u count all the customers of Hashfast. its serious money they cant play or hold like that.

We as customers have the right and its our blood swet money..


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April 09, 2014, 09:03:05 PM
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Not, sierra batch 2 are still in HF's warehouse.
It should be a month without them shipping anything now, right?

The % of people signing that contract vs waiting vs proceeding legally must be incredibly in HF's favour. This is why they are pissing in everyone's head ignoring everything, hoping the heat to go away.

Looking forward to see them in prison.

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April 09, 2014, 09:05:22 PM
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Not, sierra batch 2 are still in HF's warehouse.
It should be a month without them shipping anything now, right?
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So all batch 2 get their refunds back from the sierra's ?? I mean i also had order a sierra as batch 3.. but have canceled it of course..


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April 09, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
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spondoolies had a box at the show and sold it at the end...they said if you order today you'll get your box in a week.  I know someone who ordered a box I can let you know in a week  Wink
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April 09, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
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Not, sierra batch 2 are still in HF's warehouse.
It should be a month without them shipping anything now, right?

The % of people signing that contract vs waiting vs proceeding legally must be incredibly in HF's favour. This is why they are pissing in everyone's head ignoring everything, hoping the heat to go away.

Looking forward to see them in prison.

Cheers! Smiley
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Wow. So batch nothing shipped from batch 2? Or only a few units?

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April 09, 2014, 09:13:28 PM
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Every BJ standing to their twitter posts. Some customers have yet to receive them, but they should be a minority.
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April 09, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

if i respond with intellect to your comment do i get 'welcome to ignore'?

LOL

here is my response.
Josh, I have BFL equipment mining at home and it's very reliable (although i've swapped the fans because my missus likes a quiet office room) so .. i expect you are likely to get some ridiculous comment about how awful you are or something like that (i haven't read further than this post atm). You and I both know the game we are in, and often things happen out-with out power. I can understand this.

response(most have on ignore  Cheesy): i see preorder as the means to an end for both consumer and provider. in my previous comment, which was totally far too intellectual for some, i remarked that if I waited long enough for a mango to fall off a tree, someone would come along and swipe my mango before it fell. this is the market we exist within and simply because "we have been butt hurt - boohoo" this is not a viable reasoning to dismiss viable companies who are going far and beyond the reasonable market statistic to ensure the hash-power of bitcoin mining is spread (does anyone remember, or even care about this?).

summise: being delayed by one promise, should not make you lack trust. it is only the worst of us, who expect others to perform to the abilities of our own expectations, when our own expectations are far and beyond reasonable allowance. I'm quite happy with the rig I have at home - i've kept up with difficulty and I mine around 1BTC per month. it's cost me a sum, but i'm an enthusiast, not a day-trader. I enjoy bitcoin and don't expect to be able to 'rape it' ahead of anyone else. I'll take what I can get and I will enjoy some of it, spend some of it and speculate on some of it, for the future.

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April 09, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
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Not, sierra batch 2 are still in HF's warehouse.
It should be a month without them shipping anything now, right?

The % of people signing that contract vs waiting vs proceeding legally must be incredibly in HF's favour. This is why they are pissing in everyone's head ignoring everything, hoping the heat to go away.

Looking forward to see them in prison.

Cheers! Smiley
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Wow. So batch nothing shipped from batch 2? Or only a few units?

so far 2 people have received their sierra's from batch 2
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April 09, 2014, 09:19:46 PM
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Every BJ standing to their twitter posts. Some customers have yet to receive them, but they should be a minority.
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you talk shite.
goodnight.

ADD: i expect someone to quote this or delete it, because they want to put their willy up your arse.

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April 09, 2014, 09:30:39 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

if i respond with intellect to your comment do i get 'welcome to ignore'?

LOL

here is my response.
Josh, I have BFL equipment mining at home and it's very reliable (although i've swapped the fans because my missus likes a quiet office room) so .. i expect you are likely to get some ridiculous comment about how awful you are or something like that (i haven't read further than this post atm). You and I both know the game we are in, and often things happen out-with out power. I can understand this.

response(most have on ignore  Cheesy): i see preorder as the means to an end for both consumer and provider. in my previous comment, which was totally far too intellectual for some, i remarked that if I waited long enough for a mango to fall off a tree, someone would come along and swipe my mango before it fell. this is the market we exist within and simply because "we have been butt hurt - boohoo" this is not a viable reasoning to dismiss viable companies who are going far and beyond the reasonable market statistic to ensure the hash-power of bitcoin mining is spread (does anyone remember, or even care about this?).

summise: being delayed by one promise, should not make you lack trust. it is only the worst of us, who expect others to perform to the abilities of our own expectations, when our own expectations are far and beyond reasonable allowance. I'm quite happy with the rig I have at home - i've kept up with difficulty and I mine around 1BTC per month. it's cost me a sum, but i'm an enthusiast, not a day-trader. I enjoy bitcoin and don't expect to be able to 'rape it' ahead of anyone else. I'll take what I can get and I will enjoy some of it, spend some of it and speculate on some of it, for the future.

thanks.

The only people I have on ignore are the ones who are incapable of making cogent arguments and post the same thing over... and over... and over... and over... without any regards to facts or reality.  This basically amounts to a handful of trolls who are either failures in their own (Bicknellski, et al) or whiny trolls who haven't had an original thought in years.  Otherwise, I respond to people with the ability to communicate like adults.  Your mango reference wasn't lost on me Smiley  I pretty much agree with everything you've said so far... so I'm sure that makes you on the ignore list of the people who like to put their hands over their ears and yell "LALALALALALALAA" so they don't have to hear the truth.


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April 09, 2014, 09:44:48 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

if i respond with intellect to your comment do i get 'welcome to ignore'?

LOL

here is my response.
Josh, I have BFL equipment mining at home and it's very reliable (although i've swapped the fans because my missus likes a quiet office room) so .. i expect you are likely to get some ridiculous comment about how awful you are or something like that (i haven't read further than this post atm). You and I both know the game we are in, and often things happen out-with out power. I can understand this.

response(most have on ignore  Cheesy): i see preorder as the means to an end for both consumer and provider. in my previous comment, which was totally far too intellectual for some, i remarked that if I waited long enough for a mango to fall off a tree, someone would come along and swipe my mango before it fell. this is the market we exist within and simply because "we have been butt hurt - boohoo" this is not a viable reasoning to dismiss viable companies who are going far and beyond the reasonable market statistic to ensure the hash-power of bitcoin mining is spread (does anyone remember, or even care about this?).

summise: being delayed by one promise, should not make you lack trust. it is only the worst of us, who expect others to perform to the abilities of our own expectations, when our own expectations are far and beyond reasonable allowance. I'm quite happy with the rig I have at home - i've kept up with difficulty and I mine around 1BTC per month. it's cost me a sum, but i'm an enthusiast, not a day-trader. I enjoy bitcoin and don't expect to be able to 'rape it' ahead of anyone else. I'll take what I can get and I will enjoy some of it, spend some of it and speculate on some of it, for the future.

thanks.

The only people I have on ignore are the ones who are incapable of making cogent arguments and post the same thing over... and over... and over... and over... without any regards to facts or reality.  This basically amounts to a handful of trolls who are either failures in their own (Bicknellski, et al) or whiny trolls who haven't had an original thought in years.  Otherwise, I respond to people with the ability to communicate like adults.  Your mango reference wasn't lost on me Smiley  I pretty much agree with everything you've said so far... so I'm sure that makes you on the ignore list of the people who like to put their hands over their ears and yell "LALALALALALALAA" so they don't have to hear the truth.



agreed. and to get back on topic of the thread.. i'm in awe at how one business name can purchase equipment, yet another business name can file a law suit in complaint of said equipment. i feel that there may well be (/s) a fundamental flaw in the entire argument. if i were a judge... (this is unfortunately, how I view the world)...

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April 09, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

if i respond with intellect to your comment do i get 'welcome to ignore'?

LOL

here is my response.
Josh, I have BFL equipment mining at home and it's very reliable (although i've swapped the fans because my missus likes a quiet office room) so .. i expect you are likely to get some ridiculous comment about how awful you are or something like that (i haven't read further than this post atm). You and I both know the game we are in, and often things happen out-with out power. I can understand this.

response(most have on ignore  Cheesy): i see preorder as the means to an end for both consumer and provider. in my previous comment, which was totally far too intellectual for some, i remarked that if I waited long enough for a mango to fall off a tree, someone would come along and swipe my mango before it fell. this is the market we exist within and simply because "we have been butt hurt - boohoo" this is not a viable reasoning to dismiss viable companies who are going far and beyond the reasonable market statistic to ensure the hash-power of bitcoin mining is spread (does anyone remember, or even care about this?).

summise: being delayed by one promise, should not make you lack trust. it is only the worst of us, who expect others to perform to the abilities of our own expectations, when our own expectations are far and beyond reasonable allowance. I'm quite happy with the rig I have at home - i've kept up with difficulty and I mine around 1BTC per month. it's cost me a sum, but i'm an enthusiast, not a day-trader. I enjoy bitcoin and don't expect to be able to 'rape it' ahead of anyone else. I'll take what I can get and I will enjoy some of it, spend some of it and speculate on some of it, for the future.

thanks.

The only people I have on ignore are the ones who are incapable of making cogent arguments and post the same thing over... and over... and over... and over... without any regards to facts or reality.  This basically amounts to a handful of trolls who are either failures in their own (Bicknellski, et al) or whiny trolls who haven't had an original thought in years.  Otherwise, I respond to people with the ability to communicate like adults.  Your mango reference wasn't lost on me Smiley  I pretty much agree with everything you've said so far... so I'm sure that makes you on the ignore list of the people who like to put their hands over their ears and yell "LALALALALALALAA" so they don't have to hear the truth.



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B-E-S-T L-I-E E-V-E-R! It's April and you shipped shit. Where is your seppuku for your missed your own deadlines?


iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
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April 10, 2014, 02:24:28 AM
 #8897

Not, sierra batch 2 are still in HF's warehouse.
It should be a month without them shipping anything now, right?
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So all batch 2 get their refunds back from the sierra's ?? I mean i also had order a sierra as batch 3.. but have canceled it of course..


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can you pm me please?   I would like to help you.


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April 10, 2014, 04:20:36 AM
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Yes actually. When you make a pre-order and then expect immediate shipping you are being unreasonable. If you want immediate shipping, don't pre-order. It's simply amazing how many people fail to understand how to do that.

No one has ever been forced to pre-order mining gear. If you don't like it and everything it implies, don't do it. Easy.

if i respond with intellect to your comment do i get 'welcome to ignore'?

LOL

here is my response.
Josh, I have BFL equipment mining at home and it's very reliable (although i've swapped the fans because my missus likes a quiet office room) so .. i expect you are likely to get some ridiculous comment about how awful you are or something like that (i haven't read further than this post atm). You and I both know the game we are in, and often things happen out-with out power. I can understand this.

response(most have on ignore  Cheesy): i see preorder as the means to an end for both consumer and provider. in my previous comment, which was totally far too intellectual for some, i remarked that if I waited long enough for a mango to fall off a tree, someone would come along and swipe my mango before it fell. this is the market we exist within and simply because "we have been butt hurt - boohoo" this is not a viable reasoning to dismiss viable companies who are going far and beyond the reasonable market statistic to ensure the hash-power of bitcoin mining is spread (does anyone remember, or even care about this?).

summise: being delayed by one promise, should not make you lack trust. it is only the worst of us, who expect others to perform to the abilities of our own expectations, when our own expectations are far and beyond reasonable allowance. I'm quite happy with the rig I have at home - i've kept up with difficulty and I mine around 1BTC per month. it's cost me a sum, but i'm an enthusiast, not a day-trader. I enjoy bitcoin and don't expect to be able to 'rape it' ahead of anyone else. I'll take what I can get and I will enjoy some of it, spend some of it and speculate on some of it, for the future.

thanks.

The only people I have on ignore are the ones who are incapable of making cogent arguments and post the same thing over... and over... and over... and over... without any regards to facts or reality.  This basically amounts to a handful of trolls who are either failures in their own (Bicknellski, et al) or whiny trolls who haven't had an original thought in years.  Otherwise, I respond to people with the ability to communicate like adults.  Your mango reference wasn't lost on me Smiley  I pretty much agree with everything you've said so far... so I'm sure that makes you on the ignore list of the people who like to put their hands over their ears and yell "LALALALALALALAA" so they don't have to hear the truth.


Inaba, your lawyer is on line 2. Could you please not ignore him? Gee, he seems agitated, something about "WTF, you expect miracles and with these bullshit practices..." or something like that? Huh

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April 10, 2014, 04:34:23 AM
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What I have learned from BFL.

You can accept pre-orders, set a great sounding schedule for delivery and then never really [reasonably] attempt to keep it.

You can keep your customers waiting for several years and hold their money too.

When you see someone say something that is certifiably true, you just simply lie, but lie loudly. Then, hope they are enough idiots in the room to fall for that lie and continue on as if nothing happened.
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What I have learned from HashFast:

Well, they didn't use the BFL playbook effectively. They don't have the charisma when they lie or can't play the bullshit factor effectively.

They also don't appear to know how to craft a sales contract....but by God they will sure keep trying until they get it right!

They also have the sales folk with huge wangs displayed on the internet. Possibly to compensate for the lack of finesse.

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Perhaps the AntMiner folks can be convinced to take a huge amount of pre-orders (at a steep discount) for actual machines that hash today? Wait, would BFL Josh take a whole slew of pre-orders from HashFast for their crappy miners? [or vice versa?]

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April 10, 2014, 04:57:57 AM
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In case news: no court this week, looks like it was delayed for some reason but nothing has changed as far as the case we have against them.
Soo sad. Sad
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