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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875202 times)
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March 26, 2014, 02:31:48 AM
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What the fuck? So they use batch 2, 3, and 4 customer's funds to come out with this evo, offer pre-orders for evos, and then fuck over customers from batch 2, 3, and 4 by placing them AFTER the pre-orders of evos? Where is that quote from? Did they email it, because I don't have any shipping update emails from them.

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Also, what is a controller? Is that the RPi/computer or something else that we would need to buy?

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March 26, 2014, 02:34:54 AM
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Yes, and power supplies for sierra. The products went to icedrill which has totally hosed their investors thanks to choosing hashcrap.

I'd like to "stand behind" hashlast...with a sharp metal object in my hand. Roll Eyes

This pos sierra from these thieves cost me 51Btc now worth $30k and now they tell me I can "upgrade" to an order for delivery at least a month later and I can bring my own power supplies.

bunch of d1cks.

If/when I ever calm down, I'll politely request that they NOT "upgrade" my order to be shipped over a month later.

The email came from:

The HashFast Team [support=hashfast.com@mail35.atl11.rsgsv.net] if anyone else wants to show their "appreciation" for hashcrap's scammy tactics.

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March 26, 2014, 02:48:06 AM
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I can no longer call them BFL 2.0. Not even BFL dared to ship new orders before old orders were sent (at least not open and blatently) .  HF deserves to just be called Hashfast, the worst of all insults.

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March 26, 2014, 03:11:08 AM
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Sweet got another excuse-gram from hashlast:

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Spring Shipping Updates, Evo Upgrade Offer and MPP Details
 
Dear completely screwed sucker

First, thank you very much for being a HashFast supporter.

We are grateful for all of you who chose to participate in the Bitcoin mining community by choosing our products. We want to thank you for standing behind us over the past few months, and have no doubt that our shipping delays have caused you frustration.  As a fledgling start-up, we have gained a great deal of experience in supply-chain management that, going forward, will absolutely help us better server our customers.
Shipping Updates
•   We have finished shipping Batch-1, and we are currently working through Batch-2 which is anticipated to be complete in April, 2014.
•   Batch-3 shipments are anticipated be complete in May, 2014, and Batch-4 in June, 2014.
•   All Evo Batch-1 orders are still on-track for April, 2014, and Evo Batch-2 for May, 2014.
Options to Upgrade to Evo
Please note that Evo batches are not only manufactured faster than our first-generation boards, but are also built at a manufacturing facility separate from our first-gen Batch-2, 3, and 4 orders. And because we are able to produce Evo boards quicker, we would like to offer an upgrade to your order at no additional cost, with shipments beginning in late May, 2014.
•   For every 400 GH/s Baby Jet ordered, we will send you our Yoli Evo Mining Board as well as a power supply and liquid cooling system. This will get you hashing up to 800 GH/s, in an open configuration without the chassis (just bring your own controller).
•   For every 400 GH/s Baby Jet Upgrade Kit, we will send you a Yoli Evo Mining Board.
•   For each 1.2 TH/s Sierra ordered, we are offering to upgrade your order to a Sierra Evo Kit capable of up to 2.0 TH/s, composed of three Yoli Evo Mining Boards, chassis and three liquid coolers (just bring your own power supplies).
If you wish to take advantage of any of these upgrade conversions, please reply to this email with your original order number(s) and further instructions will be provided.
Miner Protection Plan (MPP)
We will be shipping MPP after we have finished shipping to our Batch-2, Batch-3 and Batch-4 customers. It will consist of Yoli Evo Mining Boards and exceed the 4X capacity promise of 1.6 TH/s of mining performance. We expect to start shipping MPP in June, 2014.
In Conclusion... We deeply appreciate your patience as we work through fulfilling all orders in our supply chain, and we hope these upgrade conversion options will provide a great way for you to be mining sooner than later — and faster!
Thank You,
The HashFast Team


WTF happened to end of March?!? As an "UPGRADE" I get to get in the back of the line behind b1 Evo orders placed months later...despite ordering in Sept. of 2013?!? Some kind of appreciation for standing behind them! Huh

What a bunch of a-holes. Now they claim they'll ship my b2 order by end of april(FIVE MONTHS LATE), but don't worry you evo guys will get your orders at the same time. Roll Eyes

Never never ever dealing with another us manufacturer. They're all scammers and bs artists.

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In Conclusion... We deeply appreciate your patience as we work through fulfilling all orders in our supply chain, and we hope these upgrade conversion options will provide a great way for you to be mining sooner than later — and faster!

Do they even read their own stupid-grams?!?

So in 3 months of "shipping" hashfast was able to ship out a whopping 550 units

That equates to 6 whole units shipping per day.

Is this a 1 man operation or what?

And instead of automatically upgrading their faulty boards to evos they make you get in line again unless you want to keep your spot in the slow line for slow hardware.
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March 26, 2014, 04:48:20 AM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/irs-bitcoin-is-property-not-currency-full-release-2014-3

Property, not currency.

HashFast, give these folks their PROPERTY. (in full and in complete form). Thanks.


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March 26, 2014, 05:41:34 AM
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We expect to start shipping MPP in June, 2014.

'expect' 'to start' - translation: You will get MPP in July 2014 if you are lucky (and HF still exists)

That means it will likely take at least 11 months before my Aug 9 2013 order is finally complete and delivered.

...There was one other company that pulled a similar trick on me... what was it.. oh yeah BFL.

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You buy a Baby Jet for 50 BTC, and we ship it on October 25th.  January 23, 2014 comes and goes, and it turns out that at the Baby Jet’s nominal hashrate, it would only have generated 25 BTC during that 90 day period.  Calculated out, it would have taken an additional 400 Ghash/s of capacity shipped with your Baby Jet on October 25, 2013 to generate 50 BTC. We can’t go back in time to give you that 400Ghash/s. Instead, HashFast will double that and give you 800 Ghash/s in additional capacity ... in July 2014

http://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/

Again, the MPP is completely deceptive since it suggested the additional capacity would be granted directly after the the 90 day MPP window in order to give the customer a chance to achieve ROI (that is the protection part). MPP in June (or more likely July) is no protection at all.

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March 26, 2014, 05:56:10 AM
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I can no longer call them BFL 2.0. Not even BFL dared to ship new orders before old orders were sent (at least not open and blatently) .  HF deserves to just be called Hashfast, the worst of all insults.

I agree. I think BFL should be called hashfast beta instead.

They really took screwing over customers to the next level.

Even if they ship out 10,000% MPP it wouldn't matter because by the time they finally start shipping in july the market will be flooded with 0.5 j/gh miners
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March 26, 2014, 06:35:00 AM
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order earlier, get you product later, sounds like a promising business model! If I ever see one of these guys in real life...
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March 26, 2014, 08:17:19 AM
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Even if they ship out 10,000% MPP it wouldn't matter because by the time they finally start shipping in july the market will be flooded with 0.5 j/gh miners

At this point, I'm just looking at getting a refund

Where is that option in their email?
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March 26, 2014, 08:21:33 AM
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Even if they ship out 10,000% MPP it wouldn't matter because by the time they finally start shipping in july the market will be flooded with 0.5 j/gh miners

At this point, I'm just looking at getting a refund

Where is that option in their email?

I may well be looking at doing the same - 5 days til 'shipping date'
I'm not renowned for giving 2nd chances, so if it's not here on 1st april, i'll be on the phone to them to get my money back.
still, if it does ship and I have a tracking number, i'll be more than happy to commit to my side of the contract and accept the rig.

what are the odds guys?

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March 26, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
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zero.

They'll continue to hold your money hostage, thank you for your continued support, and work on selling the product you paid for months ago to someone else. Plainly the US is the best place for these pre-order scammers to thrive.

When a so called "authority" inquires about all the consumer complaints they trot out their rehearsed lawyer blather and play victim for awhile. If these AGs or alphabet agencies gave a genuine rip about fraud then bfl hq would be a prison colony by now.

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March 26, 2014, 09:20:30 AM
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So they decided that they not only can sell your ASIC to a third party, but they can also delivery a product ordered after yours before yours.

I have a proposal.

I'm out of this game, but you guys with batch 2/3/4/upgrade/mpp should DEMAND THE ASICs from HF and build your own production line.

It's your only way out of those criminals.

PM me with how many ASICs HF owns you and what capital you would be able to invest in this production line if you are interested. I will keep the details of each user confidential and publish a grand total.

I hate to impose my opinion, but this is the only way out that doesn't involve a legal action against shell companies.
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March 26, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
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I already ask my refund for since End January, and now almost April , i still wait for my 7000 usd refund,
They say they will refund my money in the way they receive , they said this since January,

They dont tell in which querie i am, they dont answer specefic datums or in which week they send a refund.

They just like a automatic mother fckers that answer always the same.

I am waiting now almost 3 months for my 7000 usd, they not reacting, not e-mailing, not pick their phone.

WTF must i do???  The ones that want to ask for their refund now, can wait another 5 months before they refund or you will never see your money again.


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March 26, 2014, 11:00:59 AM
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Well I didnt get that emailyet but I cant wait to.

Obvisually hashfast couldnt give a shit if miners make an ROI or not and clearly lied when they said we would get MPP after 90days starting from original delivery date. This I think is clear grouds for a lawsuit. They sent emails stating exactly that counting would start from the end of october for 90 days. I am sure a court would find that 5 months after the promised date when we get the MPP is not a reasonable time frame.

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March 26, 2014, 11:30:38 AM
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We are already at 7 ASICs in one hour. Unknown $.

Clarification: whatever amount you propose to pay for the production of your board is approximative only.
We have to:

1) Reach a good number of ASICs
2) Contact HF/my lawyer to get the (licensed) schematics of the board along with the promise of the ASICs
3) Get a real figure for the production costs with the schematics of the board in hand
4) Collect the capital
5) Start the production
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March 26, 2014, 12:29:00 PM
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I know this is off topic but i hope that hashfast reads this forum, i would just like to thank them for completely destroying what i had. so far i lost my business due to me investing into them and using my savings, lost my house due to losing my business and now having to stay at a friends house in order to pick up my life and start over.
I have tried contacting them via phone and e-mail, but keep getting the same bs.
this cant go on! their ruining lives!
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March 26, 2014, 01:11:40 PM
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That sucks man, sorry for your loss.

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March 26, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
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I know this is off topic but i hope that hashfast reads this forum, i would just like to thank them for completely destroying what i had. so far i lost my business due to me investing into them and using my savings, lost my house due to losing my business and now having to stay at a friends house in order to pick up my life and start over.
I have tried contacting them via phone and e-mail, but keep getting the same bs.
this cant go on! their ruining lives!

How many Sierras did you buy to put you in that much debt and lose your business?  Sorry for your loss too.  I'm waiting for a few upgrade kits atm and lost a good amount as well.
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March 26, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
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only the 1, but if they had delivered on time it would have been an estimation of £3000 - £4000 a month return, spent $7,576.50 on the unit which would have kept the business going for approx 7.5 months without any income, i had $10,000 savings, after investing into hashfast it left me with just $2423.50 (at the time was approx £1500) which i have managed to make last for nearly 5 month's, but after Christmas sale's start getting quieter and most people are out when its sunny instead of in on the pc's or consoles which is what i use to sell/repair. im still doing it at my mates place until i hear from the many places i have sent my cv out to.
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March 26, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
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I already ask my refund for since End January, and now almost April , i still wait for my 7000 usd refund,
They say they will refund my money in the way they receive , they said this since January,

They dont tell in which querie i am, they dont answer specefic datums or in which week they send a refund.

They just like a automatic mother fckers that answer always the same.

I am waiting now almost 3 months for my 7000 usd, they not reacting, not e-mailing, not pick their phone.

WTF must i do???  The ones that want to ask for their refund now, can wait another 5 months before they refund or you will never see your money again.

Same here bro. Waiting since January and getting the same crap.

We are waiting until the end of this month and then we open up teh case with our solicitor. There are few people in UK who have not received their refunds yet.
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