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Author Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff]  (Read 775469 times)
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July 14, 2011, 01:05:36 AM
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PPLNS will pay out miners sooner than SMPPS (which in the worst case might never pay some miners) but has a bit higher variance... I'd still go for it.

Do you have so few stats out of fear of hoppers or just because you didn't have time to code them? There is VERY little transparency right now, I don't even see how many shares have been currently submitted already, which difficulty they are (2 rounds below 250 000 shares are VERY lucky!) and other stuff...

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Fixed pay per Share: A fixed price paid for every share (proof of work) received. Will be made available if there is demand for it.
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July 14, 2011, 02:01:03 AM
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Though fixed PPS is amongst the fairest options I know of, there is a risk of miners doing a undetectable "withholding winning shares" attack against the pool, potentially driving it bankrupt. There is a lot of risk involved and 0% (or near 0%) fees would be very difficult to do for the pool owner.

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July 14, 2011, 05:45:59 AM
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Fixed pay per Share: A fixed price paid for every share (proof of work) received. Will be made available if there is demand for it.
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Though fixed PPS is amongst the fairest options I know of, there is a risk of miners doing a undetectable "withholding winning shares" attack against the pool, potentially driving it bankrupt. There is a lot of risk involved and 0% (or near 0%) fees would be very difficult to do for the pool owner.

Yeah, it would probably have to be with high fees. And to reduce the risk of going bankrupt I'd better wait until the pool is bigger. From what I heard Swepool had to switch from PPS because they were losing too much money. Maybe I should take that off the webpage - but it is something I'll consider a little later.

Do you have so few stats out of fear of hoppers or just because you didn't have time to code them? There is VERY little transparency right now, I don't even see how many shares have been currently submitted already, which difficulty they are (2 rounds below 250 000 shares are VERY lucky!) and other stuff...

It's both. I will add more stats as soon as I can implement them. But I think it's best to switch to another payment method before showing how many proofs-of-work have been submitted in the current round. Showing that number would make pool hopping extremely efficient.

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July 14, 2011, 03:49:20 PM
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hi i cant log in ?! what am i doing wrong ?!

when the java pop window comes up and asks me to log in
i put in my details and nothing...wrong password or user name error

i'd love to use this pool but i cant even get started lol  Embarrassed
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July 14, 2011, 04:09:50 PM
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hi i cant log in ?! what am i doing wrong ?!

when the java pop window comes up and asks me to log in
i put in my details and nothing...wrong password or user name error

i'd love to use this pool but i cant even get started lol  Embarrassed

D'oh! Accepting underscores in the username was a bad idea when underscore is used as a separator between username and computername. Your workers can't log in now.

PM me what you'd like your username to be and I'll change it.

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July 15, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
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Phoenix with phatk mod on 5870 985/350: ~450mhash
bitminter, peak 405mhash.

I think I'll stay with phoenix phatk mod. Sorry.

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July 15, 2011, 09:05:28 PM
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I will work on improving performance on 4000 and 5000 series Radeons this weekend. Hopefully that will turn this around. Wink

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July 16, 2011, 01:32:30 AM
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Website update:
  • Pool speed/workers shown, top of page
  • My Account->Transaction history - shows all bitcoins in and out of your account
  • Block info: for more info on a block, click a block in the statistics/block list, or in your transaction history

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July 16, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
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July 16, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
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Nice work, Soak - a bitcoin on the way to you Smiley

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July 17, 2011, 01:43:19 PM
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How do we view the number of stales without using your mining client?

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July 17, 2011, 02:11:57 PM
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Doesn't your miner show the number of stales? I used DiabloMiner and Phoenix before, and they display the stales.

Edit: I think they call those shares "rejected" though. And the protocol doesn't really have a way to distinguish between shares that are completely invalid and those that are just stale. With my pool server you will only get rejected shares when they are stale. If there is something else wrong with them an error is returned, which should be displayed by the miner. So you can consider the rejected shares shown in your miner to be stales.

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July 17, 2011, 11:58:06 PM
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The bitminter miner was updated. Restart it to get the latest version.

6970/6990: Tiny bit faster
Other AMD: much faster, but probably not the fastest yet. I will keep working on it. It should be more comparable to other miners now. Feedback welcome.
It should also be less sluggish (bugfix in work timing)
Longer long-poll timeout - no more timeout messages

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July 18, 2011, 06:36:45 PM
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yeah, it's a little faster on my 5750 GPU, definitely not the fastest, though, between 130 and 135
poclbm gives 150 since I'm overclocking

manual vectors still don't work

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July 18, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
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yeah, it's a little faster on my 5750 GPU, definitely not the fastest, though, between 130 and 135
poclbm gives 150 since I'm overclocking

manual vectors still don't work

Hmm, it works fine on my 5970, and it now runs faster than Phoenix with phatk - almost as fast as DiabloMiner.

I guess the problem with manual vectors must have to do with the catalyst/sdk version. Which one are you using? I was using catalyst 11.6 with the included opencl, but recently switched to 11.7 preview. Maybe I'm doing something that doesn't work on older versions.

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July 19, 2011, 11:46:01 PM
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yeah, it's a little faster on my 5750 GPU, definitely not the fastest, though, between 130 and 135
poclbm gives 150 since I'm overclocking

manual vectors still don't work

It was incompatible with SDK 2.1. New fixed version is live now. Would love to hear how it compares to poclbm with vectors working.

By the way, it's true what they say about 2.1 and speed. I get 2 mhps more with 2.1 than with the 11.7 preview drivers.

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July 21, 2011, 03:25:08 PM
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Had a pool backend instability for a while today. But the bug is fixed now. Stales were slightly higher for a while - should be back to normal again.

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July 21, 2011, 03:39:06 PM
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Are the patches for 5xxx cards in?

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July 21, 2011, 05:01:34 PM
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Yes, there are new patches for 4xxx and 5xxx series Radeon in.

On my 5970, with Catalyst 11.7 preview drivers, the BitMinter miner still runs a little slower than DiabloMiner, so I need to work on it some more.

But it would be helpful to hear how the new version compares to people's favorite miners.

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