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October 11, 2011, 09:40:29 PM
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Alternatively you could calculate expected earnings as "if we found a block right now you would gain..."

Is it possible to calculate future earnings from the shifts completed ?

I fail to see any info on this.. ?

I still don't have all the numbers up yet. I am planning to add something like "Your score in the 10 latest shifts is 2% of the total score. That will be your share of the income from any blocks built during the current shift." and maybe "A block with a total income of 50 BTC would give you 1 BTC."

Is that the kind of thing you were thinking of?


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October 11, 2011, 09:47:20 PM
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Alternatively you could calculate expected earnings as "if we found a block right now you would gain..."

Is it possible to calculate future earnings from the shifts completed ?

I fail to see any info on this.. ?

I still don't have all the numbers up yet. I am planning to add something like "Your score in the 10 latest shifts is 2% of the total score. That will be your share of the income from any blocks built during the current shift." and maybe "A block with a total income of 50 BTC would give you 1 BTC."

Is that the kind of thing you were thinking of?


Yes I like that idea..

I just started on bitminter, long time miner..

Your Java miner is a tad slower on all my miners compared to pheonix..

But im using it anyways.. what the heck..its not a huge diff.

I have 4 5830s, 2 5850's and a 5750.

283 hashs on the 5830s on bitminter, where pheonix they run around 303 mhashs

5850s are about 20 hashs slower, at 355 hashs, as opposed to 375 on pheonix..


Now Im also seeing that its using my 4 cpu cores up (not cpu mining) I would love to put them all on one CPU to keep electricity down, like the Guiminer has options for.



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October 11, 2011, 10:45:56 PM
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While the Java miner is a tad slower, if you OC your cards you will find that it is more stable then other mining software, allowing you to run your cards at a higher speed without issues, I found I was able to OC enough to make up for the performance difference..

You should be able to use an affinity program, or use something like this: http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html which gives you the ability to permanently set affinity for programs in windows task manager to lock it down to a single core.

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October 11, 2011, 10:57:46 PM
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283 hashs on the 5830s on bitminter, where pheonix they run around 303 mhashs

5850s are about 20 hashs slower, at 355 hashs, as opposed to 375 on pheonix..



Im curious what OS, drivers and SDK version and settings you are using as I see something different; for me on a single 5850,  bitminter is slightly faster  than phoenix (and mostly tied with diablo). Thats for hashrates, if you factor in the  extreme low amount of stales with bitminter, it becomes a no brainer.

For the record, I use ubuntu, catalyst 11.3 and SDK 2.5. My settings are 256 and 10 break interval.

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October 12, 2011, 12:59:01 AM
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283 hashs on the 5830s on bitminter, where pheonix they run around 303 mhashs

5850s are about 20 hashs slower, at 355 hashs, as opposed to 375 on pheonix..



Im curious what OS, drivers and SDK version and settings you are using as I see something different; for me on a single 5850,  bitminter is slightly faster  than phoenix (and mostly tied with diablo). Thats for hashrates, if you factor in the  extreme low amount of stales with bitminter, it becomes a no brainer.

For the record, I use ubuntu, catalyst 11.3 and SDK 2.5. My settings are 256 and 10 break interval.


I have Win7 64

Most recent sdk, wether its 2.4 or not.. I forget which is most recent

I have 11.8 catalyst drivers.


As the previous poster said, its more stable.
I will try over clocking a smidge more to make up for diff.

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October 12, 2011, 01:36:42 AM
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Ok, I did some minor tweaking.. Now its looking good. 

Only had it running for a while, so stability I cant say yet.

373 hash on 5850

294 hash on the 5830

142 hash on the 5750.

All in all a bit better.. now to apply this to all my miners..

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October 12, 2011, 10:58:58 AM
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As for performance, several reported in the miner thread that the new beta version is slower than the regular version. It has better stales/block change handling though, so I'm not sure which is best to use. I'll look into the performance issue with the beta when I have some time.

I'm currently working on merged mining, so miner issues have to wait for a bit.

BTW, minor bug report: if you enable the minimize to tray, using ubuntu (vanilla gnome, not unity), it does minimize to the try, but I cant restore it. It keeps running fine, i just cant get it to the foreground anymore.

That's annoying. Bug noted, thanks!

Alternatively you could calculate expected earnings as "if we found a block right now you would gain..."

Yes, I like that, short and sweet. But it's impossible to know the exact amount you earn with a block, because of transaction fees. But maybe it can be something like "if we create a block worth 50 BTC right now, you would get 0.12277621 BTC (xx.xx%)"

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October 12, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
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Yes, I like that, short and sweet. But it's impossible to know the exact amount you earn with a block, because of transaction fees. But maybe it can be something like "if we create a block worth 50 BTC right now, you would get 0.12277621 BTC (xx.xx%)"

Remember it is merely an estimate.  Transaction fees are relatively small adjustment <0.5%.  Most pools simply say something like "estimated current block reward: xx.

Actual reward often varies a couple % up or down. 

The number would simply be: 50 * (current shares in past 10 shifts) / (total shares in past 10 shifts).

It (and it also is in every other pool I have seen) would be somewhat inaccurate when a new miner starts out but quickly their shares submitted reaches an "equilibrium" as a % of pools hashing power which is another way of looking at rewards.  From that point forward the number remains rather consistant.  Large deviations really only occur with major changes in pool or user hashing power and even then the effects are temporary. 

Don't kill yourself striving for high accuracy.  Something that estimates reward with 10% would probably be "good enough".
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October 12, 2011, 04:41:02 PM
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I dont see BTC earned for each round, though I have only been here for two rounds, and the confirms havent finished.

Im curious to what each round avgs.

I have a few friends that are curious if its worth switching, and they keep asking me how much a round, I cant really tell them much..

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October 12, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
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I dont see BTC earned for each round, though I have only been here for two rounds, and the confirms havent finished.

Im curious to what each round avgs.

I have a few friends that are curious if its worth switching, and they keep asking me how much a round, I cant really tell them much..

You only earn coins when a block is found.  When block is found you earn your share of 10 prior shifts.  It is no different than a proportional pool.  Your cut is the % of shares you mined / total shares of pool.

The only reason for "shifts" is it makes pool hopping impossible (unlike straight proportional pool).
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October 12, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
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I dont see BTC earned for each round, though I have only been here for two rounds, and the confirms havent finished.

If you go to "statistics->blocks" you can click the height number on the blocks for more data on each block. On that page is a button marked "show payouts". When you click it you will see the reward to each individual member for that block. This way you can see the amount of BTC you are about to get for each of the two unconfirmed blocks. After they are confirmed the quickest way is to look in your transaction history ("my account->transaction history").

Also note that the promotional bonus (+5%) is not shown in the block reward info. It only appears when the block is confirmed and will show up as a separate entry in your transaction history.

I have a few friends that are curious if its worth switching

With +5% pay, and probably fewer stales, they will make more bitcoins on average over time. But since it's a small pool you notice it more when we have good or bad luck. That's not necessarily bad, though. This has been a very profitable (lucky) pool to mine in during the last 7 days.

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October 12, 2011, 07:23:49 PM
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Excellent, thats what I was looking for..

3.1 percent..   I feel much more useful here Cheesy lol

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October 12, 2011, 07:48:10 PM
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And another 2 blocks, insane, just how long is this luck going to keep up?
https://bitminter.com/blocks

Just admit it DrHaribo, you tinkered with the code so we find more blocks Cheesy.

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October 12, 2011, 07:56:54 PM
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Just admit it DrHaribo, you tinkered with the code so we find more blocks Cheesy.

What do you think, turn off cheat-mode before we get in trouble?

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October 12, 2011, 08:11:40 PM
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Just admit it DrHaribo, you tinkered with the code so we find more blocks Cheesy.

What do you think, turn off cheat-mode before we get in trouble?


Im officially very in love of this pool.. lmao..

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October 12, 2011, 08:29:11 PM
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And another 2 blocks, insane, just how long is this luck going to keep up?
https://bitminter.com/blocks

Just admit it DrHaribo, you tinkered with the code so we find more blocks Cheesy.

Holy Crap I actually mined a block! 

It makes up for that 9 day "Block which shall not be named" (aka as Block #148169).
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October 12, 2011, 11:19:46 PM
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Hey this may be the time to promote BitMinter.  I don't mean spamming but if someone is complaining they can't find a pool because of DDOS attacks mention they should join the smaller pools and then maybe say BitMinter.Com is up. If nothing else we get a temporary boost in hashing power but maybe some of them realize they don't like the high fees and high stales of the big pools and stay with BitMinter.

Alternatively if you don't have a signature logo might be worthwhile to use one for next couple days.

Just be smart about it.
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October 13, 2011, 03:36:55 AM
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Although I'm not a very active poster around here, I'll throw it up. I was waiting for the dynamic ones, but this is cool too

mind if I swipe your hosted copy there DeathAndTaxes?
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October 13, 2011, 03:42:40 AM
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Sure.  I swiped it from P4Man I think.   Roll Eyes

I figure with all the excitement some miners might be looking for a quiet pool to lock in some hashes.
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October 13, 2011, 04:15:21 PM
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I got pushed off the top10 Sad

Guess I have to make top20 and top50 soon then  Cheesy

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