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November 14, 2011, 12:57:25 PM
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Bad ass pool hoppers that have since hopped away again. Still, was nice to break 100 Smiley.

As for stats, Im quite happy with what we have now (particularly the none popup stats page), and DrHaribo has plenty on his plate, but if he is still taking requests, it would be nice to see a guestimate of pool blocks / day at the current hashrate (or 24h average) and likewise, an estimate for btc/day (or month) for the miners. I know there are a million calculators where I can get that info too, but would be nice to see it based on actual hashrate and without effort Smiley. The bitminter client already has that IIRC.

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November 14, 2011, 01:25:13 PM
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We just surpassed 100GHps thanks to 3 new big bad ass miners.  Smiley
[edit] they just went away and we are back to 70.

BTW: about the statistics I would suggest a new one about our actual luck compared to what theoretically should be according the pool speed.
Some time ago this kind of stats were published as graphics about the major pools at l0ss.net

I would vote a +1 on "luck" stats.  I know PPLNS is "solid", other here known "PPLNS" is solid but I think have luck stats showing expected revenue vs actual revenue for the pool over the course of months by convince some of the undecided.
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Last edit: November 14, 2011, 05:56:22 PM by DeathAndTaxes
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I am not sure if you can see rejects by worker.  DeathAndTaxes_tiredminer is my workstation.  It is running cgminer 2.0.8 w/ "submit stale" option.  Can you see if it has a lower reject rate on NMC side?  cgminer 2.0.8 doesn't work w/ linuxcoin some incompatibility so my other 3 workers are running 2.0.7.  Just wondering if there was any improvement in stale rates.

Added to worker list so everyone can check theirs.

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First thanks for all the increases stats/details.  

Second it looks like cgminer-2.0.8 is the solution to high NMC stales.

The pool on average has about 5% NMC stale rate.  I haven't got cgminer-2.0.7 working on linuxcoin yet but do have it working on Windows7 so this provides a nice comparison.

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cgminer 2.07
BTC 1 stale of 2,031 shares     - 0.05%
NMC 118 stale of 1,914 shares  - 6.17%

cgminer 2.08
BTC 4 stale of 2,197 shares - 0.18%
NMC 2 stale of 2,199 shares - 0.09%

Massive improvement on NMC stales.  BTC stales are the same I just happen to use "submit-stale" option which reports more of them to the server.




More info on "submit-stale" (only necessary if you care about local vs server stales).
The BTC stales did increase but this is only because I am using "submit-stale" option.  cgminer by default will not submit shares it detects as stale (thus bitminter never sees them).  This improves server performance but slightly reduces  the number of good shares (more so with high intensity).  By turning on "submit-stale" it will increase server count as all "detect stale" share will still be submitted but if any of them are still valid you gain accepted shares.  Worse case scenario all of them are invalid in which case you lose nothing.




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November 14, 2011, 05:53:42 PM
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 Shocked good lord + 30 gh/s with 3 new miner. Nice

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November 14, 2011, 10:20:45 PM
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Great ideas about showing our luck and expected income versus actual income. I'll see what I can do.

New today: port 80 mining. I tested it for all of 30 seconds and it seems to work. Tongue If you are only able to connect to port 80, then try mint.bitminter.com:80 instead of the usual mint.bitminter.com:8332. Port 8332 is still preferred though, so keep using it if you can. This is not supported in the BitMinter client yet, I'll need to add an option for it. It should work with other miners, though.

Shocked good lord + 30 gh/s with 3 new miner. Nice

Yeah. They come and leave a bit, but as we're hopper-proof it's not something to worry about. They get fair pay and give the pool a nice boost. Smiley

Massive improvement on NMC stales. BTC stales are the same I just happen to use "submit-stale" option which reports more of them to the server.

Nice Smiley Looks like the pool on average has gone from just over 5% NMC stales to just under 3%. Some of it probably from people upgrading miners, and some from the recent NMC difficulty increase causing blocks to be created slower. If everyone switches to merged mining friendly miners we should get it down to the same level as BTC stales.


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November 14, 2011, 10:29:07 PM
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Great ideas about showing our luck and expected income versus actual income. I'll see what I can do.

New today: port 80 mining. I tested it for all of 30 seconds and it seems to work. Tongue If you are only able to connect to port 80, then try mint.bitminter.com:80 instead of the usual mint.bitminter.com:8332. Port 8332 is still preferred though, so keep using it if you can. This is not supported in the BitMinter client yet, I'll need to add an option for it. It should work with other miners, though.

Shocked good lord + 30 gh/s with 3 new miner. Nice

Yeah. They come and leave a bit, but as we're hopper-proof it's not something to worry about. They get fair pay and give the pool a nice boost. Smiley

All hopers have a fallback where they are looking to just get "full PPS value" for their shares.  When I hopped Arsbitcoin was the common fallback but it seems like that pool is having problems (and uncertainty).  We may start to see more hoppers as word gets out this is a viable fallback pool.  There hops were too short and intrablock to even indicate they "think" they could hop us.  More likely they were hopping out to toher pools and only falling back to us.
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November 15, 2011, 08:30:54 AM
Last edit: November 15, 2011, 01:04:39 PM by conspirosphere.tk
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Great ideas about showing our luck and expected income versus actual income. I'll see what I can do.

Maybe you could just make 2 small charts (1 for BTC and 1 for NMC) representing CDF for the blocks that we found, with 0 at 50% CDF, so that blocks found below 0 or 50% CDF are "lucky" and vice versa. So anyone could see at a glance the past luck of the pool.
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November 15, 2011, 12:57:20 PM
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LOL: I am hashing at satanic speed  Cool

 
     
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November 16, 2011, 09:47:15 AM
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Awesome work Dr!!....and to ALL the miners!  everyone keeps this place going Cool
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November 16, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
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Pretty much how I HAD mine setup, but I redid everything when I  started using the bitminter client.. I got lazy and didn't setup anything to start up on reboot Sad

I would so much like to start bitminter from the command line Smiley

Just curious, why did you switch to bitminter? As much as I like the app for tech unsavvy users who want to run a miner on their everyday desktops without having to struggle to get anything running, I dont see the point of running it on headless dedicated machines. Particularly when you have a farm as big as yours, I wouldnt dream of not using cgminer with failover pools.

I switched just to fool around mostly, wanted to test the bitminter beta etc. then I ended up redoing everything from scratch and just got lazy and never put anything back....

Never did try cgminer until a few days ago.. I have been screwing around with it on a test machine today and its great (not sure how I missed this) Smiley tomorrow ill start to convert the farm over... bitminter / Linux / 6970 was getting me 428 Mh/s , cgminer / Linux ive got up to 426 so close enough!

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November 16, 2011, 12:44:38 PM
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426 already seems like a respectable number for a 6970, depending on clock. Ive experimented only a bit, but I found the default settings with intensity=9 to be perfect for my cards (455 for a 5870 @1Ghz, 369 for a 5850 @900) and a hair faster than bitminter, but I believe bitminter is particularly optimized for 6xx0 cards. Only tweaking Ive done is clock, fan and temperature settings.

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Tiny feature request. The "my account" page is a bit confusing ATM. showing BTC/NMC in constant changing order. Would be easier if you made a 3x2 table and put NMC /BTC in columns and estimated, confirmed and unconfirmed in rows (or vice versa). Probably also a good idea if you ever plan to support any of the alt chains, like litecoin. And I think you should do that eventually,  particularly litecoin (cpu only for now) integrated in your miner would make a lot of sense.

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November 16, 2011, 04:03:20 PM
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Just got to say congrats to DrHaribo.

The new site and stats look great.  Our hashing power is now more consistently over 70GH and I think we will be solidly over 100GH/s before long.

I moved the last of my rigs exclusively to BitMinter.
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November 16, 2011, 09:35:43 PM
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 Cheesy i finally started my first ZTEX FPGA board. Nice piece of hardware. ZTEX is the real deal. I had some troubles setting it up and he was very responsive and helpful all the time. Great customer service !

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November 16, 2011, 09:42:06 PM
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We want pictures!

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November 16, 2011, 09:50:28 PM
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I'm uploading them...  Grin

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November 16, 2011, 10:15:30 PM
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Here we go:





Well above 190 MH/s with the newest software, goes up and down.



Old version, first test




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November 16, 2011, 10:28:10 PM
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Maybe you could just make 2 small charts (1 for BTC and 1 for NMC) representing CDF for the blocks that we found, with 0 at 50% CDF, so that blocks found below 0 or 50% CDF are "lucky" and vice versa. So anyone could see at a glance the past luck of the pool.

Yeah, I will put in something like that. Plus probably something to indicate how actual pay compares to expected average pay.

Tiny feature request. The "my account" page is a bit confusing ATM. showing BTC/NMC in constant changing order. Would be easier if you made a 3x2 table and put NMC /BTC in columns and estimated, confirmed and unconfirmed in rows (or vice versa). Probably also a good idea if you ever plan to support any of the alt chains, like litecoin. And I think you should do that eventually,  particularly litecoin (cpu only for now) integrated in your miner would make a lot of sense.

Have to say, I wasn't happy with the way it looked myself. I'll have what you describe in the next update. Thanks for the suggestion!

About litecoin, I'm not sure yet. It could take away focus from bitcoin and "water down" the whole deal. Some already think namecoins are just confusing and an annoyance. I did however, while working on merged mining, make it fairly easy to add more merged chains. Litecoin isn't merged, but it should still be easier because of the recent changes. Well, while I am busy working on other things I guess we will soon see whether litecoin is just another failcoin copy of bitcoin, or if it actually has something to offer that bitcoin doesn't.

Just got to say congrats to DrHaribo.

The new site and stats look great.  Our hashing power is now more consistently over 70GH and I think we will be solidly over 100GH/s before long.

I moved the last of my rigs exclusively to BitMinter.
Awesome work Dr!!....and to ALL the miners!  everyone keeps this place going Cool

Thanks for the kind words, guys. And like you say SgtMoth, thank you to all the miners. You keep BitMinter alive, and seeing everyone mining here and supporting the pool is a big motivation to keep working on this. Thanks for taking a chance on a small pool while most just pick the biggest one. We have gone from tiny to small, and if you're right, DAT, we could soon be on our way to medium size. Smiley

I'm uploading them...  Grin

Damn! Shocked Where do I get one of those, and what's the price?

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November 16, 2011, 10:28:36 PM
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Me likes Smiley
Now, how about benchmarking some battle-fields 3 Cheesy

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November 16, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
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Damn! Shocked Where do I get one of those, and what's the price?

Made in Germany by ZTEX. http://www.ztex.de/ Paid 327 Euros.

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November 16, 2011, 10:51:51 PM
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I guess we will soon see whether litecoin is just another failcoin copy of bitcoin, or if it actually has something to offer that bitcoin doesn't.

Although litecoin has a few actual advantages over BTC, the reason Im suggesting it is not that Im convinced it will take over the world. Its because bitminter's cpu mining speed is (no offense) useless, replacing it with litecoin mining would make it useful.

Litecoin price/difficulty doesnt make it hugely profitable but at least for now, certainly more interesting than namecoins. The fact it can be done with cpus and doesnt need drivers or highend amd cards, would also be a strong asset for any syndication deal that would target your miner to regular folks, rather than us nerds.

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