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August 17, 2013, 09:55:47 PM
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Look at that beauty !
PCI !!!
Yeah !!!

Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...

GO BFL !!! GO !!!

The aesthetics of the case is literally the last thing I care about in a bitcoin miner.  I guess it all depends if you want one to mine bitcoins or to show off to friends and dinner guests?

We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.
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August 17, 2013, 09:57:21 PM
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....

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August 17, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
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Joshua got his widdle feewings hurt and has completely banned me from his forum. I'm so sad.

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August 17, 2013, 09:58:13 PM
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BFL has delivered only 11% of their queue.

They are offering credit swaps for ppl who havent recived their units for a 10% fee

They are offering pre-sales for this new product after clearly stating "Chip development is traditionally a 12 month process"

Draw your own conclusions

This will be worst than 2012 preorders
Let the MEMEs BEGIN!!!!
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August 17, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
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Look at that beauty !
PCI !!!
Yeah !!!

Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...

GO BFL !!! GO !!!

The aesthetics of the case is literally the last thing I care about in a bitcoin miner.  I guess it all depends if you want one to mine bitcoins or to show off to friends and dinner guests?

We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.

No I want my Cryoniks!

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August 17, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
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Marc Goodpasture ran parts for a tractor outfit in Kansas, Jeff Ownby own's a barn in Illinois, Josh is an Ass, Jody raises chickens, and BFL's warehouse if full of migrant workers. If I were a funny guy, I would make a joke of these facts.
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August 17, 2013, 10:01:32 PM
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....

You will get years of entertainment out of this purchase. Caveat: it may be our entertainment  Cheesy

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August 17, 2013, 10:02:39 PM
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Thats the hag thats been making wise ass remarks and nonsensical bullshit blogs on their website? SHES THAT MUCH OLDER?
From her remarks I thought she was like 20 judging.

She's 63. Seriously!
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August 17, 2013, 10:02:48 PM
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Meh, upgraded a late-ordered single to this, will be interesting to see how it pans out.....



You will get years of entertainment out of this purchase. Caveat: it may be our entertainment  Cheesy

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August 17, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
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We are talking about "efficiency" here my friend.

PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.

So do this as an experiment.  Take a 4U case* and put 3x 7970s inside.  Max them out and start mining.  That would use less power than 2 of these mining cards.  Now tell me how easy it is to keep the temps under control.  There is a reason people starting using extenders and ghetto rigs.  More than 800W or so 24/7 inside a sealed case is pretty tough to keep under control without liquid cooling.

For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid.  The stupidest part is if they used a larger case there would be more than enough room for an internally mounted case.

* If you don't have a 4U case a full tower is roughly the same size so turn it on its side and it is a good enough estimate for this experiment.  However make sure you seal any side/top/bottom vents as those wouldn't exist in a rackmount case.  Just cool it using fans at the front and back of the case and on the GPU only.
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August 17, 2013, 10:05:48 PM
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Let the MEMEs BEGIN!!!!

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August 17, 2013, 10:06:16 PM
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Why should I place my Pre-Order with Butterfly Labs?
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Butterfly Labs is the pioneer and has remained the leader of the bitcoin mining hardware industry since 2011.  We are the only 28nm hardware manufacturer with a proven ASIC design.  We have 45 employees, a mature production capacity and supply chain.   Our 28nm competitors have never deliverd a single product.  Their manufacturing, supply chain and engineering are all back of the napkin ideas.
 
Shipped more ASIC than all competitors combined <~~ do they not consider ASICMiner and Friedcat the competition?


when will this ponzi finally crumble?   soon since they are taking wire transfers....  banking and wire fraud......  just wait and see!
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August 17, 2013, 10:06:27 PM
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We've been in hard development for approximately six months.  We're now we're in the final stage of the process which is wafer start at the foundry.  However, we aren't shipping anytime soon.  This is a Pre-Order product, so if you're uncomfortable waiting an indeterminate length of time for the final phase of development, do NOT pre-order this product.With that in mind, our current schedule is on track for shippments towards end of year.  

I love this one. ..  6 months ago they say!  They didn't even have their first set bumped by then let alone packaged and tested

The copy I've been reading is filled with grammatical errors. If only they had Josh proofread the copy prior to publishing, it'll make better sense. Then again, perhaps they're putting more time in their copy than in their 28nm ASIC design.
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August 17, 2013, 10:07:48 PM
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For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid. 

I think that might have more to do with regulations in the EU about selling stuff that plugs into a wall socket than it is about the proper management of heat inside the case.

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Based on their track record, we wont see a working prototype this year.

This card might ship sometime next year, probably wont hit that power figure,
and might only just cover ROI at that price.

Do you really wish to tie up funds for so long?

There are a lot of ASIC vendors now, and prices are coming down.

I think the era of pre-orders is coming to an end, they need another business model.









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August 17, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
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banking and wire fraud......  just wait and see!

 DING DING DING ! This one gets it !
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August 17, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
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must mean they are out of money..... need to do another presale to stay afloat

This is exactly what I thought reading their announcement. Will be interesteing how many fishes they catch on this
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August 17, 2013, 10:10:42 PM
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For the record though KNC decision to use a case which requires the PSU to be outside is equally stupid. 

I think that might have more to do with regulations in the EU about selling stuff that plugs into a wall socket than it is about the proper management of heat inside the case.

Nobody said include a power supply.  We are simply talking the exact same sheet metal case but wider.  The silliest part is the stated design was for rackmounting however the case isn't standard rackmount width (19").  So it is smaller than what is needed for room to house a PSU and due to its size it can't be rackmounted without a shelf.  If it was a 4U 19" rackmount case there would be more than enough room for a PSU and it would rackmount directly.

Personally I see the semi-useless case as a waste of money.  If you are going to use a worthless case design then just drop the case.  Simply ship the hashing boards and control board and let the user supply the case.
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August 17, 2013, 10:10:45 PM
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Transferring your order to a new 28nm Mining Card will cancel your old order completely. We recommend you keep your existing order and place a new order for the 28nm technology product.
The new technology will not ship until the end of 2013.
Your existing order will arrive much sooner and you can mine with it while you wait for the new technology to be released.


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Credit from old order (-10% transfer fee)    $325.80
Subtotal    $4680.00
Standard Shipping    $14.00
Grand Total    $4694.00
Amount Due    $4368.20

Could anyone explain how a customer can "transfer" an order but is not allowed to receive a refund because "the sale is final"?

That means, the argument "we cannot refund you because we already spent resources to build up your device" becomes a fallacy if an order "transfer" is allowed.
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August 17, 2013, 10:12:28 PM
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banking and wire fraud......  just wait and see!

 DING DING DING ! This one gets it !

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