Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[DonRavy]

It's just getting better each day, I can't personally fathom how BA (and to a degree MS I guess) can sink any lower. Worst business and engineering practices I have ever witnessed, BA behaving like a spoiled brat or scorned woman, utterly pathetic.

Since it seems gloves are off, I'll just leave this here

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[abdullahadam]

I am not surprised he is saying that. If they refund they have to give us a full 6k each and then try to sell their miner for probably 2-3k

I wouldn't take what they say at face value even if he is pretending to tell you a "secret."

[tempestb]

If that's true, than at this point Black Arrow should just mine with the things so they can earn enough money to finish them and ship them out.

I do believe they don't have much money, it's why they don't give anyone a refund.  But if they are at the point of just closing the doors and not finishing the hardware, well then I would hope they use some common sense and just mine for the money they need.  Otherwise we're all screwed regardless.

[subseaguru]

has anyone heard if MS got their latest shipment of X1's? just curious before i start firing off emails again.

[abdullahadam]

has anyone heard if MS got their latest shipment of X1's? just curious before i start firing off emails again.

Follow them on facebook
last i read was "Next batch of orders will be shipped out Thursday/Friday this week." (posted 5 hours ago)

[Stedsm]

has anyone heard if MS got their latest shipment of X1's? just curious before i start firing off emails again.

From facebook:

Brad Rouse, Sameer Alibhai, Asher Cee and 4 others like this.
Yakaira Felix de Smith When do you expect to ship more X-1s??
5 hours ago

    Minersource.net Next batch of orders will be shipped out Thursday/Friday this week.
    5 hours ago

:i'm not fast enough

[terrapinflyer]

I am a customer of minersource that's how they have my info. Minersource must have also told them that I purchased Bitfury boards also. I cannot believe what an absolute shit show this is. Now minersource will not contact me via telephone to discuss this situation and will only talk via email. I am absolutely outraged, MS claims that they did not violate their TOS and I never placed an order with BA directly so I guess no one is responsible...

Edit: And to clarify I am no longer a customer of either. I have received refunds for all products that BA has manufactured and will not be spending money with either BA or MS again. My X-1's where paid in full on Dec 10th and I received my refund from MS on July 15th. The bitfury boards where ordered on May 20th and refunded in full soon after.

So minersource gives out customer names/addresses to a scummy company yet they act outraged when xbtec steals/buys an email list?

It's also sad that bobsag gave BA positive trust after this complete failure.

I've lost all respect for minersource in the past few weeks.

I have to agree about losing respect for MS. They are claiming that they did not violate the TOS by providing BA the information about my other orders I have placed. Even if they where required for some reason to give BA my name and address when I placed my x-1 orders how did they know about the other purchases that I made at MS? (bitfury boards shipped directly from MS)
And finally why do they feel the need to single me out and post my personal info here? I have been silent on the sidelines here for months, its time that changes.

[jb0316]

Now BA is posting my personal info in my trust setting?
....

Regardless of your reasoning, that is -again- seriously out of order, petty and unprofessional blackarrow. Get your house in order and sort your act out.

Agreed that is just such an invasion of privacy and I'm sure it borders on criminal as well.

[DonRavy]

I have to agree about losing respect for MS. They are claiming that they did not violate the TOS by providing BA the information about my other orders I have placed. Even if they where required for some reason to give BA my name and address when I placed my x-1 orders how did they know about the other purchases that I made at MS? (bitfury boards shipped directly from MS)
And finally why do they feel the need to single me out and post my personal info here? I have been silent on the sidelines here for months, its time that changes.

Well even if MS did not violate their ToS, unless you specifically agreed to them giving your info to 3rd parties, they're violating the law. ToS or no ToS, you can't just willy nilly give out personal and private information without consent (unless you're the NSA ofc). I won't even go into the legality of BA posting your details here, as BA is so far gone in terms of moving inside of legal boundaries, they probably don't care anymore at this point.

If you have legal insurence, rip em a new one, I heard the US law industry has some sort of repuation when it comes to litigating such things

[subseaguru]

has anyone heard if MS got their latest shipment of X1's? just curious before i start firing off emails again.

From facebook:

Brad Rouse, Sameer Alibhai, Asher Cee and 4 others like this.
Yakaira Felix de Smith When do you expect to ship more X-1s??
5 hours ago

    Minersource.net Next batch of orders will be shipped out Thursday/Friday this week.
    5 hours ago

:i'm not fast enough

well lets hope i dont get another email this week saying that the miner im supposed to get is stuck in customs. that excuse gets old.

[Unacceptable]

I am a customer of minersource that's how they have my info. Minersource must have also told them that I purchased Bitfury boards also. I cannot believe what an absolute shit show this is. Now minersource will not contact me via telephone to discuss this situation and will only talk via email. I am absolutely outraged, MS claims that they did not violate their TOS and I never placed an order with BA directly so I guess no one is responsible...

Edit: And to clarify I am no longer a customer of either. I have received refunds for all products that BA has manufactured and will not be spending money with either BA or MS again. My X-1's where paid in full on Dec 10th and I received my refund from MS on July 15th. The bitfury boards where ordered on May 20th and refunded in full soon after.

So minersource gives out customer names/addresses to a scummy company yet they act outraged when xbtec steals/buys an email list?

It's also sad that bobsag gave BA positive trust after this complete failure.

I've lost all respect for minersource in the past few weeks.

I have to agree about losing respect for MS. They are claiming that they did not violate the TOS by providing BA the information about my other orders I have placed. Even if they where required for some reason to give BA my name and address when I placed my x-1 orders how did they know about the other purchases that I made at MS? (bitfury boards shipped directly from MS)
And finally why do they feel the need to single me out and post my personal info here? I have been silent on the sidelines here for months, its time that changes.

Wow    That's a freakin BFL move    Soooo glad I refunded in Feburary 

[Unacceptable]

Do the handful of X3's supposedly shipped so far come with knee pads?

[eXOBeX]

In the UK the Information Commissioners' Office (ICO) would take a very dim view of such action (and the ICO take very expensive bites), but I don't know if there's anything similar in the USA (or California in particular).

[heslo]

What a fucking shit show.... And of course still no correspondence between myself and MinerSource. Very professional way to run a company. Must be taking lessons from BA.

This whole situation infuriates me to no end and has gone well past the point of ridiculousness.

Oh and on top of it all I got notified this morning via email that BA has deleted one of my posts. Too busy to ship out/assemble miners but not busy enough to keep off of the internet. I hope their ship sinks into the fucking ground

[juni0r]

I would like to see someone take legal action against these toddler engineers and management at black arrow. Perhaps that guy who is out 25k? Keep us posted.

I have no doubt that most people can take legal action or petition againsts BA just only with compromised support portal and customers email list.
Since, BA support portal has been compromised, I am sure that someone has access to customers' banking details etc as BA would request customers to provide banking information for refund purpose. This is a huge crisis and corporate negligence in online trading.

[david105396]

I would like to see someone take legal action against these toddler engineers and management at black arrow. Perhaps that guy who is out 25k? Keep us posted.

I have no doubt that most people can take legal action or petition againsts BA just only with compromised support portal and customers email list.
Since, BA support portal has been compromised, I am sure that someone has access to customers' banking details etc as BA would request customers to provide banking information for refund purpose. This is a huge crisis and corporate negligence in online trading.

Please don't spread theories without having information to back it up. As said before we are very actively investigating this.

[eXOBeX]

Not very actively doing much else though, are you? What are the payment dates of the orders currently being processed?

[juni0r]

I would like to see someone take legal action against these toddler engineers and management at black arrow. Perhaps that guy who is out 25k? Keep us posted.

I have no doubt that most people can take legal action or petition againsts BA just only with compromised support portal and customers email list.
Since, BA support portal has been compromised, I am sure that someone has access to customers' banking details etc as BA would request customers to provide banking information for refund purpose. This is a huge crisis and corporate negligence in online trading.

Please don't spread theories without having information to back it up. As said before we are very actively investigating this.

Please let me know what information you need for me or us to back up this theory. I will try my best to get this bottom of it as this cannot let go easily.

[david105396]

I would like to see someone take legal action against these toddler engineers and management at black arrow. Perhaps that guy who is out 25k? Keep us posted.

I have no doubt that most people can take legal action or petition againsts BA just only with compromised support portal and customers email list.
Since, BA support portal has been compromised, I am sure that someone has access to customers' banking details etc as BA would request customers to provide banking information for refund purpose. This is a huge crisis and corporate negligence in online trading.

Please don't spread theories without having information to back it up. As said before we are very actively investigating this.

Please let me know what information you need for me or us to back up this theory. I will try my best to get this bottom of it as this cannot let go easily.

We also are not letting this go easily, I'm making sure of that. I would like to know why you think our support portal has been compromised and that people have access to banking details. If you have any proof of this I would greatly like to have it so I can add it to the investigation.

[btct22]

Hey it's Thursday (again)... WTF is happening, where are the miners, why do you keep lying to us about shipping dates?