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Author Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive  (Read 408957 times)
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March 27, 2016, 01:43:21 AM
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Seems like everyone does a 2.0 atm

Hbn should try that aswell.
This outdated Client combined with the bloated Chain (even with the strong Community) will lead hbn into oblivion.
Thats the major Problem here.

Face it.

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March 27, 2016, 02:26:53 AM
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any news from YoBit.net?
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March 27, 2016, 11:53:23 PM
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any news from YoBit.net?

no did not get any answer

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March 28, 2016, 11:48:47 PM
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Whew HBN is sure taking a lot of system resources for the wallet to run.  My old Atom netbook which I had used for HBN mining only became overburdened and did not have the system resources to run the wallet (believe it is a 4gb 1.8 dual core atom).

Moved my wallet to a full desktop (one generation old) and it takes up a significant amount of system resources, keeps my cpu busy while my gpu is mining eth.

After not having mined for a while (4, 6months? not sure) it seems that the difficulty has really plummeted, churning out a pretty crazy amount of staked HBN.

Sad to see that is is fading away somewhat. Without any new initiatives the coin will fade to irrelevance. As much as I like HBN and supported it over the years it doesn't seem to me like there is much of a plan going forward, and without one, the future looks bleak. One guy can only work on so many different projects at the same time.

As I said about 1.5 years ago or so in this thread, a coin really needs at least a few businesses accepting it as payment, especially a pos coin, otherwise the inflation will inexorably drive it to being worthless.

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March 29, 2016, 07:26:05 AM
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Well, it would be nice if the wallet would use a little less resources for staking. I use a fairly strong laptop to run btc-core, cap and hbn at the same time and it's pretty much all it can handle.

Another thing worth mentioning is the amount of orphans if have staking: About 30% of what is staked turns out to be an orphan.
When I move my wallet to my dab ass i7 desktop, the percentage drops below 5%. Another indication the hbn wallet is very dependent on resources.

All in all, I am very impressed it works so reliably after about 3 years. But if someone would ask, I'd say lighter staking would be a great improvement. The fact that the chain is pretty big doesn't bother me at all. That's easily solved with a bootstrap of which recent ones are always available.

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March 31, 2016, 06:51:38 PM
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What do you guys think of a re-brand and/or an upgrade to a newer blockchain?
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April 01, 2016, 03:37:20 AM
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What do you guys think of a re-brand and/or an upgrade to a newer blockchain?

Doubtful,

Nothing wrong with the HBN name, also some exchanges will not support a coin that does a chain swap unless they are paid to setup that coin like a brand new coin.
Plus unless Tranz agrees with you , it is not going to happen.


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April 01, 2016, 10:20:01 PM
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dam  no news from yobit, don't get answer
it s more than 2 weeks and still not online on yobit  Roll Eyes

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April 01, 2016, 11:43:52 PM
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What do you guys think of a re-brand and/or an upgrade to a newer blockchain?

Doubtful,

Nothing wrong with the HBN name, also some exchanges will not support a coin that does a chain swap unless they are paid to setup that coin like a brand new coin.
Plus unless Tranz agrees with you , it is not going to happen.


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Chain swaps are nonsensical. A new chain = a different coin.

That is obviously not going to happen.
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April 01, 2016, 11:46:10 PM
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Well, it would be nice if the wallet would use a little less resources for staking. I use a fairly strong laptop to run btc-core, cap and hbn at the same time and it's pretty much all it can handle.

Another thing worth mentioning is the amount of orphans if have staking: About 30% of what is staked turns out to be an orphan.
When I move my wallet to my dab ass i7 desktop, the percentage drops below 5%. Another indication the hbn wallet is very dependent on resources.

All in all, I am very impressed it works so reliably after about 3 years. But if someone would ask, I'd say lighter staking would be a great improvement. The fact that the chain is pretty big doesn't bother me at all. That's easily solved with a bootstrap of which recent ones are always available.

Cheers!

Yes, agree. The wallet is full of useful functions, but is resource hungry. I would guess it is not an easy job to remedy that.
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April 02, 2016, 01:34:31 AM
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Well, it would be nice if the wallet would use a little less resources for staking. I use a fairly strong laptop to run btc-core, cap and hbn at the same time and it's pretty much all it can handle.

Another thing worth mentioning is the amount of orphans if have staking: About 30% of what is staked turns out to be an orphan.
When I move my wallet to my dab ass i7 desktop, the percentage drops below 5%. Another indication the hbn wallet is very dependent on resources.

All in all, I am very impressed it works so reliably after about 3 years. But if someone would ask, I'd say lighter staking would be a great improvement. The fact that the chain is pretty big doesn't bother me at all. That's easily solved with a bootstrap of which recent ones are always available.

Cheers!

Yes, agree. The wallet is full of useful functions, but is resource hungry. I would guess it is not an easy job to remedy that.

It would be fantastic if we could take a note from DMD's book and use a bit from their book. POS takes up so little resources on my DMD wallet and the coins are automatically regrouped after staking. Makes for a much easier time loading the client.
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April 02, 2016, 02:09:25 AM
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Well, it would be nice if the wallet would use a little less resources for staking. I use a fairly strong laptop to run btc-core, cap and hbn at the same time and it's pretty much all it can handle.

Another thing worth mentioning is the amount of orphans if have staking: About 30% of what is staked turns out to be an orphan.
When I move my wallet to my dab ass i7 desktop, the percentage drops below 5%. Another indication the hbn wallet is very dependent on resources.

All in all, I am very impressed it works so reliably after about 3 years. But if someone would ask, I'd say lighter staking would be a great improvement. The fact that the chain is pretty big doesn't bother me at all. That's easily solved with a bootstrap of which recent ones are always available.

Cheers!

Yes, agree. The wallet is full of useful functions, but is resource hungry. I would guess it is not an easy job to remedy that.

It would be fantastic if we could take a note from DMD's book and use a bit from their book. POS takes up so little resources on my DMD wallet and the coins are automatically regrouped after staking. Makes for a much easier time loading the client.

Yep HBN client is killing me.

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April 02, 2016, 04:01:58 AM
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It would be fantastic if we could take a note from DMD's book and use a bit from their book. POS takes up so little resources on my DMD wallet and the coins are automatically regrouped after staking. Makes for a much easier time loading the client.

Reason Diamond loads faster is it has a smaller blockchain to load into memory.
Same reason new coins load faster smaller blockchains.

Diamond has less than 2 million coins total, Block Speed 100 seconds ,
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HBN has over 21 million coins with a Block Speed of 30 seconds
(Which means over 3x faster speed and 3X the ability to carry more transactions than diamond, side effect to that is a larger blockchain which is why it takes up more memory resources) Algo might make some difference HBN scrypt vs Diamond groestl, but probably not enough to worry about.

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April 04, 2016, 08:42:07 AM
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so still not on yobit

they still resync the blockchain
It took me 3 1/2 days to resync the blockchain. that is absolutely crazy! That is why i don't buy more HBN.

HBN desperately needs some love. YoBit won't make much of a difference without some quality dev care.


Is the Yobit listing going ever to happen?

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April 04, 2016, 07:36:52 PM
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so still not on yobit

they still resync the blockchain
It took me 3 1/2 days to resync the blockchain. that is absolutely crazy! That is why i don't buy more HBN.

HBN desperately needs some love. YoBit won't make much of a difference without some quality dev care.


Is the Yobit listing going ever to happen?

it has too, i paid for it, blacksmith accepted so it's just a mater of time
but i have no news  no reply to my ticket

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April 04, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
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so still not on yobit

they still resync the blockchain
It took me 3 1/2 days to resync the blockchain. that is absolutely crazy! That is why i don't buy more HBN.

HBN desperately needs some love. YoBit won't make much of a difference without some quality dev care.


Is the Yobit listing going ever to happen?

it has too, i paid for it, blacksmith accepted so it's just a mater of time
but i have no news  no reply to my ticket

The guys who paid for TEK to get listed on YoBit had to nag and nag.  Check the semi-recent pages of TEK thread for details and excuses etc.
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April 04, 2016, 10:14:45 PM
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i needa a hobo bro lol

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April 04, 2016, 10:29:59 PM
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It would be fantastic if we could take a note from DMD's book and use a bit from their book. POS takes up so little resources on my DMD wallet and the coins are automatically regrouped after staking. Makes for a much easier time loading the client.

Reason Diamond loads faster is it has a smaller blockchain to load into memory.
Same reason new coins load faster smaller blockchains.

Diamond has less than 2 million coins total, Block Speed 100 seconds ,
VS
HBN has over 21 million coins with a Block Speed of 30 seconds
(Which means over 3x faster speed and 3X the ability to carry more transactions than diamond, side effect to that is a larger blockchain which is why it takes up more memory resources) Algo might make some difference HBN scrypt vs Diamond groestl, but probably not enough to worry about.

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The coin count itself does not really matter. Each 'coin', or unspent transaction out, has value represented in 64 bits. Whether it is 100 coins or 1 million coins, it will occupy the same 64 bits, the only difference is where the 0's and 1's are placed.
 
The amount of blocks and the algorithm are really the biggest determining factors.

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April 04, 2016, 10:49:19 PM
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The coin count itself does not really matter. Each 'coin', or unspent transaction out, has value represented in 64 bits. Whether it is 100 coins or 1 million coins, it will occupy the same 64 bits, the only difference is where the 0's and 1's are placed.
 
The amount of blocks and the algorithm are really the biggest determining factors.

Hmm,
So in your Opinion would an Algo switch to say X15 or groestl decrease the memory usage , or would a chain swap be required to see the full benefit of such a switch in Algo.


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April 05, 2016, 09:36:36 PM
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The coin count itself does not really matter. Each 'coin', or unspent transaction out, has value represented in 64 bits. Whether it is 100 coins or 1 million coins, it will occupy the same 64 bits, the only difference is where the 0's and 1's are placed.
 
The amount of blocks and the algorithm are really the biggest determining factors.

Hmm,
So in your Opinion would an Algo switch to say X15 or groestl decrease the memory usage , or would a chain swap be required to see the full benefit of such a switch in Algo.


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Hmm I don't know why you would choose x15 to decrease resources, I mean it is using 15 different hashing algos so it would be pretty intensive. Not sure about groestls footprint. I do know that both sha256 and blake are both very light weight. Scrypt not as light weight.

The algorithm really only slows you down when you are either syncing the chain, or checking a block that has just been added to the network. The issue is almost entirely with the size of the chain and the fact that there are several things indexed for each block that are stored in memory.

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