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December 27, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
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Curious also of the features for cryptoid that you feel my explorer is lacking? I can think of quite a few features I have that they dont, so would be interested in seeing what they have that I dont.

Here ya go,
Show ya link to ya comparable feature

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/mint/#!network
included Active network connections
included Geo-location
included organizations


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/mint/#!extraction
Staking Coins for the last 1000 Blocks
Orphans Chart


If ya have dose,  ya even on features.
If not, well ya know that answer.

AG18

They do have a bit more features for peers with geolocating and such, but I do have a full list as well example here

I would say that my explorer shows much more staking information about the blockchain history (also you can run up to the last 2000 blocks if you want). The actual block page shows a lot of staking stats that you just can't find anywhere else as far as I know.

I guess what I am trying to say here is that they have some features and formatting that I don't have, and I have some features that they don't have. I however don't personally think its accurate to say that saying my explorer has less features in total (where is their hash rate chart for PoW?)

Anyways, I would love to have HBN on board, but of course understand if people prefer different services! I usually charge an installation fee of $40, but since I have a history with HBN and like the coin, my personal contribution towards the explorer will be waving that fee.

It is very nice for your side to get the instalation fees but how much will be yearly hosting of the coin in presstab? thanks
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December 27, 2015, 11:59:24 PM
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So, Comes down to $120 for the whole year for HBN, and $84 for CAP for the whole year. For a grand total of $204 for both.
Not sure how much BTC has been contributed? Though, I do not think we are to far from that?
Well from what, I can guess, we have .2 BTC. And Tranz said would contribute .2 BTC? So, we are close in the amount of BTC needed for HBN and
CAP explorers. Personally, I like Presstab's explorer. Plus we get a little more exposure on Presstab's home page.
http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/

Peace, Dennis

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December 28, 2015, 03:20:43 AM
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explorer is one thing, but why nobody cares we have no exchanges now ? ;x

yolo
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December 28, 2015, 04:21:39 AM
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explorer is one thing, but why nobody cares we have no exchanges now ? ;x

How many Ya Need?

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_BTC

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_LTC

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_DOGE

HBN Headquarters should get em added to your coin marketcap along beside the scamptsy exchange.
So we canz compare volume and newbies see it.

Seems they already have.

Cryptsy/Scamptsy HBN exchange still works , as long as ya convert to Doge or another alt coin before sending it from the exchange.
Although they may die any minute now, Good Riddance i say.

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December 28, 2015, 04:36:24 AM
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explorer is one thing, but why nobody cares we have no exchanges now ? ;x

How many Ya Need?

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_BTC

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_LTC

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=HBN_DOGE

HBN Headquarters should get em added to your coin marketcap along beside the scamptsy exchange.
So we canz compare volume and newbies see it.

Seems they already have.

Cryptsy/Scamptsy HBN exchange still works , as long as ya convert to HBN or CAPs before sending it from the exchange.
Although they may die any minute now, Good Riddance i say.

Just Sayin,
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Fixed that for you...  Wink
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December 28, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
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You may want to consider switching over to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ instead of CCE. It is an amazing alt explorer, very detailed and I believe would cost around the same. Could get bottlecaps on there at the same time. Is this something we can consider or is CCE set for those donations?

Edit: After checking the renewal rate for DMD on https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ it's only $9.99 per month. That isn't bad at all after the initial cost. I hope I am reading that right.

I think that presstab's explorer is a lot cheaper @.3 BTC for the whole year. If an explorer is needed, then presstab's is a good choice.
BottleCaps is already on there. Though it expires December 30th. Sent a PM to Presstab to see how much it costs to have HBN added
and to renew BottleCaps for the whole year.

Not sure why one costs a whole lot more than the other. But, I like Presstab's explorer, and is cheaper too!
As soon as Presstab gets back to me, I will post the pricing info here. I will also kick in some BTC to help pay for it.

Peace, Dennis



LOL,  Grin
Ya must teach me da math , ya usin,
12 month * $9.99 = $119.88

.3 Btc at current conversion =$125.25

Presstab costs more, with less features.

Just Sayin,
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I haven't really quoted prices for HBN yet, but it is priced in fiat and then converted to btc, not the other way around.

Curious also of the features for cryptoid that you feel my explorer is lacking? I can think of quite a few features I have that they dont, so would be interested in seeing what they have that I dont.

PressTab, when you have a min, please send me a quote for 1 year for HBN.
Thanks.

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December 28, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
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today i notice  up to 85% of pos shakes are rejected  Huh

so i have a question is that lost rewards or they gonna try to shake again?

Yes they will. Don't worry, you never lose any stake when they are rejected. They will just stake again until they are accepted.

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December 28, 2015, 04:37:08 PM
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I have spoke with PressTab and I am happy to report we will be getting the HBN setup there. We collected ~$100 worth of BTC over the last few weeks. Thanks so much guys! I will cover the rest and we should be good for a year.

Regarding the exchanges here are my plans. I am testing out Cryptopia right now. I have put some decent sized blocks for sale on the site for both HBN and CAPs, anything that is sold at least 1/2 will go towards the buy side and the other 1/2 will be used for explorer and/or other exchanges.

I will be collecting another bounty in both HBN and CAPs to see if that will help get the wheels moving for another site. I'll let you know when that happens.

For now I encourage you to try out Cryptopia, just keep the amounts small enough that if you loose it, you won't be too upset.

Thanks all.

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December 28, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
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I have spoke with PressTab and I am happy to report we will be getting the HBN setup there. We collected ~$100 worth of BTC over the last few weeks. Thanks so much guys! I will cover the rest and we should be good for a year.

Regarding the exchanges here are my plans. I am testing out Cryptopia right now. I have put some decent sized blocks for sale on the site for both HBN and CAPs, anything that is sold at least 1/2 will go towards the buy side and the other 1/2 will be used for explorer and/or other exchanges.

I will be collecting another bounty in both HBN and CAPs to see if that will help get the wheels moving for another site. I'll let you know when that happens.

For now I encourage you to try out Cryptopia, just keep the amounts small enough that if you loose it, you won't be too upset.

Thanks all.

I give my vote to Cryptopia.  They're systems work... for now.  That's all we can ask for at this stage in the game.

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December 29, 2015, 01:08:22 AM
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I have spoke with PressTab and I am happy to report we will be getting the HBN setup there. We collected ~$100 worth of BTC over the last few weeks. Thanks so much guys! I will cover the rest and we should be good for a year.

Regarding the exchanges here are my plans. I am testing out Cryptopia right now. I have put some decent sized blocks for sale on the site for both HBN and CAPs, anything that is sold at least 1/2 will go towards the buy side and the other 1/2 will be used for explorer and/or other exchanges.

I will be collecting another bounty in both HBN and CAPs to see if that will help get the wheels moving for another site. I'll let you know when that happens.

For now I encourage you to try out Cryptopia, just keep the amounts small enough that if you loose it, you won't be too upset.

Thanks all.

Thanks for the info...Cryptopia works OK IMO. Any issues simply stem from the illiquidity of the markets there.

Another alternative exchange is always a good objective.
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December 29, 2015, 01:12:55 AM
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I really like block explorer from presstab he is a proffesional of it, i think is really important to have a good block explorer, but if we can not het the money we could too pay 12 bucks buy a  aruba.cloud cheap vps and install a iquidus explorer meanwhile
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December 29, 2015, 03:46:52 PM
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Just an FYI. I did in fact recieve payment and am trying to get the HBN explorer up asap. As we all know, HBN has an enormous block chain and this will take a little while to sync up (CAP took 2+ days). I am hoping I can get the bootstrap to work a bit quicker. Will keep everyone updated here on the thread.

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December 29, 2015, 03:51:46 PM
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hi Tranz

can you please write what is the currently valid github source address of hobonickels ?

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December 29, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
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hi Tranz

can you please write what is the currently valid github source address of hobonickels ?

I am using http://github.com/tranz5/hobonickels , seems to be the correct one but will wait for others to confirm.

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December 29, 2015, 04:33:11 PM
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hi Tranz

can you please write what is the currently valid github source address of hobonickels ?

I am using http://github.com/tranz5/hobonickels , seems to be the correct one but will wait for others to confirm.

yes that one should be just fine.

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December 29, 2015, 04:52:34 PM
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i can confirm

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels.git

is the valid github source

after i clone and compile the daemon shows the latest version number

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December 30, 2015, 10:41:42 AM
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hi Tranz

can you please write what is the currently valid github source address of hobonickels ?

https://github.com/Crypto-Expert/HoboNickels ?
I made a fork with some alleged improvement like the flying dolorean fix and database upgrade, and I managed to compile it somewhat
https://github.com/hclivess/HoboNickels/blob/master/src/

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December 31, 2015, 01:19:07 AM
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Question for someone who has the knowledge on POS / POW.

What happens when the hashing becomes so low on POW that POS is the only thing securing the coins? Is this a likely event? How secure would the system be then? Can the coin survive solely on POS in a secure manner?
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Question for someone who has the knowledge on POS / POW.

What happens when the hashing becomes so low on POW that POS is the only thing securing the coins? Is this a likely event? How secure would the system be then? Can the coin survive solely on POS in a secure manner?

IMO, PoS alone will secure a coin as long as enough coins are being staked.

Rat4 of blackcoin had a discussion about it and even showed a successful attack against Mint , (when their PoW was low.)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551861.0

His recommendation was going PoS only and dropping the PoW when the PoW gets too low.
Basically the reason ZEIT & MINT dropped PoW and went PoS only was his findings, as in the beginning they were both hybrid like HBN.

However neither ZEIT or MINT use a Checkpoint Server.
HBN does use a checkpoint server, so it may block some or all of those potential problems from a low PoW hash rate, Tranz would have the most knowledge on that.

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Here is some additional info for you from
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/9592-hbn-trouble-shooting-guide-syncing-and-checkpoints/
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What are checkpoints?

Checkpoints are blocks in the chain where all clients agree are correct. These points allow for additional security in the event of some type of attack, or coding malfunction.  Where clients are in disagreement about the correct height of the chain.

There are two types of checkpoints. Hard coded and sync checkpoints. Hard coded checkpoints are put in the source code manually, generally done with major revisions.  Sync Checkpoints are issued from a dedicated server at fixed or manual intervals.

Will HBN always use sync checkpoints?

For the foreseeable future HBN will use checkpoints. This is very helpful while the network is still young. As the hash rates increases and more nodes are connected and staking, checkpoints can be lowered or eventually removed.

This does add some centralization to the network, but the trade off for security is worth it.
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December 31, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
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Question for someone who has the knowledge on POS / POW.

What happens when the hashing becomes so low on POW that POS is the only thing securing the coins? Is this a likely event? How secure would the system be then? Can the coin survive solely on POS in a secure manner?

Yes a coin can survive just on PoS. It can be secure, depending on how much coin weight the network has. I still have no plans to remove PoW. Will reevaluate as time goes on.

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