[ANN] Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin

[St.Bit]

but the internet isn't a place you can trust people with money.

Agree. U can use the same address u used to send bitcoins. Send 0.0001 BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a and attach ur Nxt account id. This will be publicly visible and will prove u r the legit owner.

How are these account id's generated or are these like bankaccounts?
Is there a way for me to get one offline and without running closedsource software?

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[Come-from-Beyond]

I see three peers, yay!
But why are two peers blacklisted?

Coz they were offline or were running old version. Click on purple tray next to a blacklisted peer to connect again.

[starik69]

2. Don't lock it, just close a webpage

Would i mine if i don't close a webpage?

[aldrin]

I'm trying to claim my NXT. I've followed the procedure, but when i paste in the url:

http://nxtgenesisblock.appspot.com/?key=[value_from_step_4]&account=[value_from_step_9]

i get back .... "Already assigned to [the hash of the hash of my original secret phrase]"


what am i doing wrong?

U r a little bit late. Do as described in the post above urs. Or PM me with the key and the account.

sent PM

[Come-from-Beyond]

but the internet isn't a place you can trust people with money.

Agree. U can use the same address u used to send bitcoins. Send 0.0001 BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a and attach ur Nxt account id. This will be publicly visible and will prove u r the legit owner.

How are these account id's generated or are these like bankaccounts?
Is there a way for me to get one offline and without running closedsource software?

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3691750#msg3691750

This is source code of vanity address generator. U need to find someone who will change it a little.

[Come-from-Beyond]

2. Don't lock it, just close a webpage

Would i mine if i don't close a webpage?

Yes, just don't LOCK the account by pressing yellow open lock.

[matt608]

Nxt client can be downloaded from https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkqhhdi72cx74t3/Nxt.zip. Delete all *.nxt files before running it!

The sources will be published later (not earlier 3rd of Jan). SHA256 of the source file is 5ae6536fd44201bb9a3fa1172b3b683807241d7d1d9ecee0a957f340d58ed2bc. This is signed by Genesis block generator: http://88.198.210.245:7876/?request=decodeToken&website=0.2.1-5ae6536fd44201bb9a3fa1172b3b683807241d7d1d9ecee0a957f340d58ed2bc&token=qcguom8ifi6oic0qr609uo6hsds4f2r68g898vmpq920p7tj000006v57ajrpn00iopcb1gj6bfbamvj0cjtia7igg6ktvo32n6ajeisbj8ggtg958r0bpud0d96tgr2te9fr34b2iqj3hgdd444acke5ebga4lr

U can launch the client, but official launch is at 12:00 GMT, so blocks won't be generated.

Check ur balance plz.

Do not use someone's client or u can lose all ur coins!

Edit: Updated post to replace 0.2.0 version with 0.2.1.

I downloaded the file to my macbook and what I get is a folder labelled Nxt filled with files ending in ".class" (without quotes).  I can't see how I run it.  I hope for launch there is a simple way to run it like all the other clients, where you just download the file and double click.  Also I presume for launch you will start a new thread?  Please make sure the description of Nxt is comprehensive and the client download + install is really simple.  

[Boing7898]

So only a password is needed to access someone's coin?
Like, if I put 123 as a passphrase and someone enters 123 as a passphrase, he can use my coins?

Not that I'm going to use 123 as a passphrase but.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I downloaded the file to my macbook and what I get is a folder labelled Nxt filled with files ending in ".class" (without quotes).  I can't see how I run it.  I hope for launch there is a simple way to run it like all the other clients, where you just download the file and double click.  Also I presume for launch you will start a new thread?  Please make sure the description of Nxt is comprehensive and the client download + install is really simple.  

U shouldn't unpack Nxt.zip. Use it as a single file. Type "java -cp Nxt.zip Nxt"

[bidji29]

So only a password is needed to access someone's coin?
Like, if I put 123 as a passphrase and someone enters 123 as a passphrase, he can use my coins?

Not that I'm going to use 123 as a passphrase but.

yeah, that's not good at all.
It's not impossible at all that 2 people choose to use the same password.

And i'm not even talking about bruteforcing.
With bitcoin or clone, each password try is on only one adress each time.
With Nxt, each password try is on the entire network.


When Nxt have thousand of users, you just have to do a a big brute force attack and you're sure to get a lot of account.
THere is nothing random about human choosing password! Big security flaw imo

[Come-from-Beyond]

So only a password is needed to access someone's coin?
Like, if I put 123 as a passphrase and someone enters 123 as a passphrase, he can use my coins?

Not that I'm going to use 123 as a passphrase but.

It's Brainwallet. The phrase is supposed to be long. If u prefer login+password combo, then use a phrase like Boing7898+123

[matt608]

I downloaded the file to my macbook and what I get is a folder labelled Nxt filled with files ending in ".class" (without quotes).  I can't see how I run it.  I hope for launch there is a simple way to run it like all the other clients, where you just download the file and double click.  Also I presume for launch you will start a new thread?  Please make sure the description of Nxt is comprehensive and the client download + install is really simple.  

U shouldn't unpack Nxt.zip. Use it as a single file. Type "java -cp Nxt.zip Nxt"

Where do I type that?

[Come-from-Beyond]

When Nxt have thousand of users, you just have to do a a big brute force attack and you're sure to get a lot of account.

Users ought to think about security by themselves. Nxt provides very secure way (u can use 100 chars long phrase).

[Come-from-Beyond]

Where do I type that?

In command prompt.

[matt608]

Where do I type that?

In command prompt.

I've never used command prompt, I don't even know how to open it to type things in (on a macbook).  There needs to be a way to download the file so it can just be opened with a double click like other software.

[bidji29]

When Nxt have thousand of users, you just have to do a a big brute force attack and you're sure to get a lot of account.

Users ought to think about security by themselves. Nxt provides very secure way (u can use 100 chars long phrase).

Yeah and that's a big problem. Because a lot of people are not enough secure.
So a lot of account will be stolen because Nxt count too much on user side security.

Not a good way at all to reach mass market

[Come-from-Beyond]

When Nxt have thousand of users, you just have to do a a big brute force attack and you're sure to get a lot of account.

Users ought to think about security by themselves. Nxt provides very secure way (u can use 100 chars long phrase).

Yeah and that's a big problem. Because a lot of people are not enough secure.
So a lot of account will be stolen because Nxt count too much on user side security.

Not a good way at all to reach mass market

Aye, we r going to follow the same way as Bitcoin 5 years ago. I still think that brainwallet is much more secure than files on a disk.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I've never used command prompt, I don't even know how to open it to type things in (on a macbook).  There needs to be a way to download the file so it can just be opened with a double click like other software.

I have no idea where Mac's prompt. U can buy a cheap VPS and give me root password, I'll install Nxt client there for free.

[St.Bit]

but the internet isn't a place you can trust people with money.

Agree. U can use the same address u used to send bitcoins. Send 0.0001 BTC to 1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a and attach ur Nxt account id. This will be publicly visible and will prove u r the legit owner.

How are these account id's generated or are these like bankaccounts?
Is there a way for me to get one offline and without running closedsource software?

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3691750#msg3691750

This is source code of vanity address generator. U need to find someone who will change it a little.

Thank you.
Is this urgend to do soon or can I leave it the way it is and maby sell them later as "virgin coins"?

[klee]

Where do I type that?

In command prompt.

I've never used command prompt, I don't even know how to open it to type things in (on a macbook).  There needs to be a way to download the file so it can just be opened with a double click like other software.

Type 'Terminal' in spotlight.
Use cd command to enter the same directory where the Nxt.zip file is stored.
Then use the command "java -cp Nxt.zip Nxt"

What is your OSX? Do you have latest JRE?