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December 02, 2017, 01:19:24 PM Last edit: December 03, 2017, 12:22:20 AM by marlboroza |
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I've been using this faucet but always end up with 0 when I try the games, any advice to actually build a balance?
Listen to this guy: Very simple don't play hi-low game then you will not lose your balance. Faucet money is very small and it can't last for long playing this game and also house has got high house edge and your balance will be eaten up faster. If you want to earn money then don't gamble either on this site or on any other site.
(edited in bold) Don’t listen to this guy: First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
He is talking rubbish. Forget about Martingale, you risk more every time to earn little, and long losing streaks end up occurring, I’ve already explained it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107981.msg25261065#msg25261065So this guy is telling him, not to listen to me. Therefore: Do not accumulate at least 2000 satoshi (using the faucet. just let it go to waste) Do not research game theories and betting theories (to learn how to bet) Do not stick to the strategy with cool nerves (so u can bet like a maniac) Do not expect to zero your balance looooool great advice ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ... NOT For the record, I never advised using martingale. I advised researching it and adapting it to your self (like I did). Unlike Pedro, I won't tell you who to listen to and who not to. I will insist you do as much research as possible and listen to everyone you can before gambling your BTCIf you want to be 99.99% safe, then just stick to the hourly faucet. If you manage to roll 24 times a day for 30 days (with the 1000% BTC bonus from reward points), you should be able to make about $48 a month in BTCSorry, but I won't share my modified version of martingale in public I fully agree with Don Pedro. Advising to someone to do research about random strategies and suggesting that it will somehow help him is wrong, such strategy doesn't exist. Strategy will work and all of sudden it won't. When something is random you can't apply math or long term strategy. It is dice.
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December 02, 2017, 01:56:06 PM |
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I've been using this faucet but always end up with 0 when I try the games, any advice to actually build a balance?
Listen to this guy: Very simple don't play hi-low game then you will not lose your balance. Faucet money is very small and it can't last for long playing this game and also house has got high house edge and your balance will be eaten up faster. If you want to earn money then don't gamble either on this site or on any other site.
(edited in bold) Don’t listen to this guy: First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
He is talking rubbish. Forget about Martingale, you risk more every time to earn little, and long losing streaks end up occurring, I’ve already explained it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107981.msg25261065#msg25261065Don Pedro is right! But still some people think that Martingale will work. Listen to the advice of the senior members here on the forum: gambling strategies such as Martingale or other strategies will not work.
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December 02, 2017, 02:48:56 PM Last edit: December 04, 2017, 01:09:47 AM by hroub |
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I've been using this faucet but always end up with 0 when I try the games, any advice to actually build a balance?
Listen to this guy: Very simple don't play hi-low game then you will not lose your balance. Faucet money is very small and it can't last for long playing this game and also house has got high house edge and your balance will be eaten up faster. If you want to earn money then don't gamble either on this site or on any other site.
(edited in bold) Don’t listen to this guy: First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. EDIT: make that 2048 satoshi, so you would still make profit if you win after the EDIT: 11th loss Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
He is talking rubbish. Forget about Martingale, you risk more every time to earn little, and long losing streaks end up occurring, I’ve already explained it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107981.msg25261065#msg25261065So this guy is telling him, not to listen to me. Therefore: Do not accumulate at least 2000 satoshi (using the faucet. just let it go to waste) Do not research game theories and betting theories (to learn how to bet) Do not stick to the strategy with cool nerves (so u can bet like a maniac) Do not expect to zero your balance looooool great advice ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ... NOT For the record, I never advised using martingale. I advised researching it and adapting it to your self (like I did). Unlike Pedro, I won't tell you who to listen to and who not to. I will insist you do as much research as possible and listen to everyone you can before gambling your BTCIf you want to be 99.99% safe, then just stick to the hourly faucet. If you manage to roll 24 times a day for 30 days (with the 1000% BTC bonus from reward points), you should be able to make about $48 a month in BTCSorry, but I won't share my modified version of martingale in public I fully agree with Don Pedro. Advising to someone to do research about random strategies and suggesting that it will somehow help him is wrong, such strategies doesn't exists. Strategy will work and all of sudden it won't. If something is random and you can't apply math or long term strategy it is dice. For everyone that rushed into concluding that I promoted Martingale: Martingale by itself does not work!!!A gambler must adapt it to his habits, luck and make sure he has enough Satoshi to survive many losing streaks, and think of little things like how likely would u get 2 streaks in a row, and how likely would u get 3 or more losing streaks in a row. the chance of losing literlay half everytime you lose, but there is still a chance, and u could use that to your advantage. I'm not an expert or anything. since I started over 5 days ago, I only have BTC 0.00056093 in my balance... I waited till I accumulated 2000 sat, then just multiplied minimum bets (using a strategy somewhat similar to martingale) and increased my balance about 10% per day (trying to not be greedy). If I play for too long like I used to, I would lose my cool, get greedy and lose everything. So again: do not ignore anyone, do your research, figure out your strategy practice with tiny amounts until u get the hang of it and grow your "cool tolerance". Its much easier to lose your cool/patience on larger amounts, but if u practice and lose using say 2-4k satishi you accumulated from the faucet, u'll eventually grow your balance and "coolness" In the end, when it comes to gambling there are no guarantees, anything can happen and in this site (like most) odds are against you
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December 02, 2017, 02:58:09 PM |
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I've been using this faucet but always end up with 0 when I try the games, any advice to actually build a balance?
Listen to this guy: Very simple don't play hi-low game then you will not lose your balance. Faucet money is very small and it can't last for long playing this game and also house has got high house edge and your balance will be eaten up faster. If you want to earn money then don't gamble either on this site or on any other site.
(edited in bold) Don’t listen to this guy: First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
He is talking rubbish. Forget about Martingale, you risk more every time to earn little, and long losing streaks end up occurring, I’ve already explained it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107981.msg25261065#msg25261065So this guy is telling him, not to listen to me. Therefore: Do not accumulate at least 2000 satoshi (using the faucet. just let it go to waste) Do not research game theories and betting theories (to learn how to bet) Do not stick to the strategy with cool nerves (so u can bet like a maniac) Do not expect to zero your balance looooool great advice ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ... NOT For the record, I never advised using martingale. I advised researching it and adapting it to your self (like I did). Unlike Pedro, I won't tell you who to listen to and who not to. I will insist you do as much research as possible and listen to everyone you can before gambling your BTCIf you want to be 99.99% safe, then just stick to the hourly faucet. If you manage to roll 24 times a day for 30 days (with the 1000% BTC bonus from reward points), you should be able to make about $48 a month in BTCSorry, but I won't share my modified version of martingale in public I fully agree with Don Pedro. Advising to someone to do research about random strategies and suggesting that it will somehow help him is wrong, such strategies doesn't exists. Strategy will work and all of sudden it won't. If something is random and you can't apply math or long term strategy it is dice. For everyone that rushed into concluding that I promoted Martingale: Martingale by itself does not work!!!A gambler must adapt it to his habits, luck and make sure he has enough Satoshi to survive many losing streaks, and think of little things like how likely would u get 2 streaks in a row, and how likely would u get 3 or more losing streaks in a row. the chance of losing literlay half everytime you lose, but there is still a chance, and u could use that to your advantage. I'm not an expert or anything. since I started over 5 days ago, I only have BTC 0.00056093 in my balance... I waited till I accumulated 2000 sat, then just multiplied minimum bets (using a strategy somewhat similar to martingale) and increased my balance about 10% per day (trying to not be greedy). If I play for too long like I used to, I would lose my cool, get greedy and lose everything. So again: do not ignore anyone, do your research, figure out your strategy practice with tiny amounts until u get the hang of it and grow your "cool tolerance". Its much easier to lose your cool/patience on larger amounts, but if u practice and lose using say 2-4k satishi you accumulated from the faucet, u'll eventually grow your balance and "coolness" In the end, when it comes to gambling there are no guarantees, anything can happen and in this site (like most) odds are against you Good advice but i would say not all people would really have that kind of coolness just like yours knowing that there are different types of person.Some wont really bother to make their small amounts into bigger ones or lets just say faucet gamers because they wont really be satisfied on those amounts to be used. No matter how big or small your bankroll is if luck isnt on your side that martingale of yours will surely wipeout your entire balance in a blink of an eye.
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Don Pedro is right! But still some people think that Martingale will work. Listen to the advice of the senior members here on the forum: gambling strategies such as Martingale or other strategies will not work.
Isn't that what I said in post above yours? You basically changed word or two ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Since you quoted my post: For everyone that rushed into concluding that I promoted Martingale:
Martingale by itself does not work!!!
Where have I used word "martingale"? Besides, no one rushed into conclusion because you said: Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
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December 02, 2017, 07:42:54 PM |
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Neither Martingale nor any other strategy will ever work on a dice site. It's random, and the house edge is here to benefit the owners, not the players. Hroub, one day your strategy will give you enough losses to empty your balance.
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December 02, 2017, 11:03:22 PM |
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Don Pedro is right! But still some people think that Martingale will work. Listen to the advice of the senior members here on the forum: gambling strategies such as Martingale or other strategies will not work.
Isn't that what I said in post above yours? You basically changed word or two ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Since you quoted my post: For everyone that rushed into concluding that I promoted Martingale:
Martingale by itself does not work!!!
Where have I used word "martingale"? Besides, no one rushed into conclusion because you said: Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Hahaha. ur're absolutely right! You said "suggesting that it will somehow help him is wrong, such strategies doesn't exists. Strategy will work and all of sudden it won't" and I guess I wrongly assumed you were implying the one we talking about. (I don't want to say its name again, or the boogie man may show up. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 02, 2017, 11:15:34 PM |
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Neither Martingale nor any other strategy will ever work on a dice site. It's random, and the house edge is here to benefit the owners, not the players. Hroub, one day your strategy will give you enough losses to empty your balance.
I'm sure of that, and that's simply because (using n choose k formula), as the number or rolls k approaches infinity, the probability getting more than 12 losing streaks (n>12) increases I just really hope this doesn't happen before I make the BTC1.3 that I lost like a crazed lunatic. As soon as my balance becomes BTC1.3 BTC, probably gonna withdraw BTC1.2 and leave BTC0.1 to finally start making some profit... Or maybe I'll find a way to leave it there but not allow myself to touch it so that it gains the 4.08% APR... Until then I'll be training myself to remain cool and not get greedy again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) EDIT: I think I have the n and the k reversed. I haven't done probability and statistics problems in 4 years... I think I should have said: as the number or rolls n approaches infinity, the probability choosing k losing streaks increases.
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Last week i can earn only 1k satoshi from here. How to earn more? I really need the guide for earn some on freebitco
Play their hi-lo game, get refferal for comission or winning lottery
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Last week i can earn only 1k satoshi from here. How to earn more? I really need the guide for earn some on freebitco
Hey buddy, I just suggest don't make it as your focused to get more balance at here with other ways in here. It's good you just to claim it with a routine and don't play a Hi / Lo games, it's dangerous it makes you really lose all. Just use a rewards's point to increase the amount of claims on every hour.
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December 03, 2017, 08:54:18 AM |
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Neither Martingale nor any other strategy will ever work on a dice site. It's random, and the house edge is here to benefit the owners, not the players. Hroub, one day your strategy will give you enough losses to empty your balance.
I'm sure of that, and that's simply because (using n choose k formula), as the number or rolls k approaches infinity, the probability getting more than 12 losing streaks (n>12) increases I just really hope this doesn't happen before I make the BTC1.3 that I lost like a crazed lunatic. As soon as my balance becomes BTC1.3 BTC, probably gonna withdraw BTC1.2 and leave BTC0.1 to finally start making some profit... Or maybe I'll find a way to leave it there but not allow myself to touch it so that it gains the 4.08% APR... Until then I'll be training myself to remain cool and not get greedy again ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) EDIT: I think I have the n and the k reversed. I haven't done probability and statistics problems in 4 years... I think I should have said: as the number or rolls n approaches infinity, the probability choosing k losing streaks increases. If you play to retrieve the lost BTC, you will finish losing even more. The house edge is here to make you lose at the end. And with martingale strategy (or any other one as well), you will lose more after your nth loss in a row than you've earned after every 0 to n-1 losses streak before a win you had before.
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Last week i can earn only 1k satoshi from here. How to earn more? I really need the guide for earn some on freebitco
Play their hi-lo game, get refferal for comission or winning lottery You're wrong because if you use hi-low game then you lose more coins not earning coins. But I agree that if you have a more active referral then you can earn more passive income. It is very hard to find active referrals because many people will move on to other places to earn once they realize that this faucet money is not worth in the long run so you have to get new referrals to earn continuously.
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December 03, 2017, 10:44:22 AM |
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First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. EDIT: make that 2048 satoshi, so you would still make profit if you win after the 12th loss Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
Shouldn't it be after the 10 losses. 1 +2 +4 +8 +16 +32 +64 +128 +256 +512 +1024 = 2047 the 11th bet of 1024 will be the last chance to win it all back. If you play to retrieve the lost BTC, you will finish losing even more. The house edge is here to make you lose at the end. And with martingale strategy (or any other one as well), you will lose more after your nth loss in a row than you've earned after every 0 to n-1 losses streak before a win you had before.
not always true, in a provably fair game there's a chance to win more. don't get greedy and control your emotion once I lost 0.01 BTC then deposited 0.013 BTC and after almost a month I did manage to get up to .058 BTC but because of greed I started initial bet higher and higher as my balance get higher then one time I can't control my emotion and can't think straight, I kept hoping the next roll will be green I ended up with (I think) 20+ reds losing streak and left me with 0.003 BTCand it didn't last long... 2 hrs later I busted (after claiming free hourly roll and playing multiply a bit) I could've withdrew and secured my initial deposit (0.01+.013) and still have 0.035 to play with again... greed... I was thinking higher balance can get me more winnings ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) happened numerous times again afterward when I play with accumulated faucet amount and just now after a week started from 0 to ~18000 satoshi, then busted again because of greed & emotion, I encountered bad streak but overcame it and lost only 500 sats but I want to get that 500 sats back fast and stupidly raise initial bet and continue losing all ~17500, busted! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) - Do not let yourself get greedy. It's better to play small amounts and be safe than to risk high amounts and be sorry. Patience! - Even with the best technique and the coolest nerves, the game depends highly on luck and odds are against you. So if you consider yourself unlucky (like me) better not invest more
If you can't control your emotions than you shouldn't gamble at all.
In conclusion (In my opinion), modified martingale "could" work but must be adapted to personal style and house roll patterns basic unmodified martingale will get you straight to busted in no time If you can't control your emotions and gamble... don't expect to win, do it for enjoyment, accept the consequences... but if you actually win, think of it as bonus
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How much is the minimun for not captcha for roll?. Until the other day when i withdraw nearly 0.10 bitcoin never see the captcha image, but now i see.
AFAIK, your balance should be greater(double or more) than the roll amount to turn off the captcha. i haven't yet deposited on freebitco.in, i'm going to in few days(small amount) to earn interest as well to turn off the captcha.
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Martingale strategy does not work 100% well on dice games, because there is the house edge advantage on casinos side, the higher number of times you martingale when you lost in the rolls, house edge will empty your bankroll even faster, so it is better to gamble just for the sake of entertainment.
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December 03, 2017, 01:32:33 PM Last edit: December 04, 2017, 01:11:25 AM by hroub |
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First, Accumulate at least 2000 satoshi. EDIT: make that 2048 satoshi, so you would still make profit if you win after the EDIT: 11th loss Research game theories, betting theories like Martingale It's harder than it sounds, but stick to your strategy with cool nerves. Expect to zero your balance a few times before learning how to do the above 3
Shouldn't it be after the 10 losses. 1 +2 +4 +8 +16 +32 +64 +128 +256 +512 +1024 = 2047 the 11th bet of 1024 will be the last chance to win it all back. This above is the original (unmodified Martingale). Notice that, after your last losing bet of 1024 sat, if the next one was a winner with a bet of 2048, then your profit, after all the stress of the 11 loss streak and almost having a heart attack, your profit would be only 2048 - 2047 = 1 satoshi !!! ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) That's one of the things each needs to modify in his version of Martingale! If you play to retrieve the lost BTC, you will finish losing even more. The house edge is here to make you lose at the end. And with martingale strategy (or any other one as well), you will lose more after your nth loss in a row than you've earned after every 0 to n-1 losses streak before a win you had before.
not always true, in a provably fair game there's a chance to win more. don't get greedy and control your emotion once I lost 0.01 BTC then deposited 0.013 BTC and after almost a month I did manage to get up to .058 BTC but because of greed I started initial bet higher and higher as my balance get higher then one time I can't control my emotion and can't think straight, I kept hoping the next roll will be green I ended up with (I think) 20+ reds losing streak and left me with 0.003 BTCand it didn't last long... 2 hrs later I busted (after claiming free hourly roll and playing multiply a bit) I could've withdrew and secured my initial deposit (0.01+.013) and still have 0.035 to play with again... greed... I was thinking higher balance can get me more winnings ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Has anyone noticed, that once you reach or overpass your goal, you get too comfortable and lose control of greed? It happened to me like like 3 times ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) WHats up with that??? any psychologists around? happened numerous times again afterward when I play with accumulated faucet amount and just now after a week started from 0 to ~18000 satoshi, then busted again because of greed & emotion, I encountered bad streak but overcame it and lost only 500 sats but I want to get that 500 sats back fast and stupidly raise initial bet and continue losing all ~17500, busted! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) - Do not let yourself get greedy. It's better to play small amounts and be safe than to risk high amounts and be sorry. Patience! - Even with the best technique and the coolest nerves, the game depends highly on luck and odds are against you. So if you consider yourself unlucky (like me) better not invest more
If you can't control your emotions than you shouldn't gamble at all.
In conclusion (In my opinion), modified martingale "could" work but must be adapted to personal style and house roll patterns basic unmodified martingale will get you straight to busted in no time If you can't control your emotions and gamble... don't expect to win, do it for enjoyment, accept the consequences... but if you actually win, think of it as bonus Good advice. I would add: Expect a tendency to become the greediest bastard on the planet once you have reached your goal (or made more BTC than you expected), and have some countermeasures to self-control ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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How much is the minimun for not captcha for roll?. Until the other day when i withdraw nearly 0.10 bitcoin never see the captcha image, but now i see.
AFAIK, your balance should be greater(double or more) than the roll amount to turn off the captcha. i haven't yet deposited on freebitco.in, I'm going to in few days(small amount) to earn interest as well to turn off the captcha. Speaking of Captchas. I don't have them on my account. Its great, but I don't know why. Any idea how to remove captcha on from the sister doge site? Captchas are so annoying and I'm so bad with them! I have bad eyesight, and most of the times I roll, I would have to wear my glasses just to see the the captcha, and even then I get it wrong half the times. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) When I'm on my smartphone? Forgetaboutit! All this caused me not to use the sister website much... Captcha is just too time consuming for me. I currently have 13.59 doge there... Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but I have already submitted a ticket about a week ago... no reply. and I can't find an active forum for it...
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babygun
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December 03, 2017, 02:22:47 PM |
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How much is the minimun for not captcha for roll?. Until the other day when i withdraw nearly 0.10 bitcoin never see the captcha image, but now i see.
AFAIK, your balance should be greater(double or more) than the roll amount to turn off the captcha. i haven't yet deposited on freebitco.in, I'm going to in few days(small amount) to earn interest as well to turn off the captcha. Speaking of Captchas. I don't have them on my account. Its great, but I don't know why. Any idea how to remove captcha on from the sister doge site? Captchas are so annoying and I'm so bad with them! I have bad eyesight, and most of the times I roll, I would have to wear my glasses just to see the the captcha, and even then I get it wrong half the times. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) When I'm on my smartphone? Forgetaboutit! All this caused me not to use the sister website much... Captcha is just too time consuming for me. I currently have 13.59 doge there... Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but I have already submitted a ticket about a week ago... no reply. and I can't find an active forum for it... Unfortunately there is no way to remove the captcha on freedoge.co.in. There is also not a topic/forum for this site.
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EtihadBitcoin
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December 03, 2017, 03:08:45 PM |
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So Wetsuit is the creator of this site or just the owner? Meaning they bought it like what happened to the moneypot bitcoin casino sites a year back. Frankly, do not waste time with the faucet, I mean if you are 12 years old and you want to have some bitcoin but you do not have anything to buy I understand (I registered my little cousin on Freebitco.in that's why). But otherwise we talk about cents per week, it's ridiculous I think, but everyone's opinion. PS: Tell the guy who has a faucet affiliate link in his signature! ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It is not a waste of time, if you do it correctly. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ...When I started with Freebitco.in we got 1000+ Satoshi per hour and we got 500 Satoshi from each referral in your down line. Over the years... these Satoshi added up and it became more valuable. This takes me back to the first faucets where Gavin used to give 1 to 5 bitcoins.... will we see the same thing happening to the small quantity of Satoshi that we accumulated on these faucets? {Imagine 1 Satoshi = $1 in a few years} ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Who is Gavin btw?
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December 03, 2017, 03:31:27 PM |
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So Wetsuit is the creator of this site or just the owner? Meaning they bought it like what happened to the moneypot bitcoin casino sites a year back.
Wetsuit created it and has owned it since it started back in 2013, so no they didn't buy it.
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