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[TheQuin]

Constantly changing the weekly withdrawal isn't practical and people would not be happy if it was a dynamic fee and they didn't realise when the fees suddenly went high.

If you make a dynamic and announce it once then it will be users responsibility to check the fees if they enable weekly payment.

As you say fees are low and you can get a slow withdrawal for 40 sats, so why the need for a weekly withdrawal?

That is users convenience and you can't ask them why they need. They may not want to go and withdraw manually so they may prefer auto withdrawals every week.

Instead of asking users not to choose weekly withdrawals, why can't you guys remove that feature? What is the use other than the site can get additional profit from the more fee currently?

The auto-withdrawal used to be free. The idea was if you wanted your BTC sooner you'd have to pay a fee, which is reasonable. The change was made when BTC spiked to $20K a few months ago and people started either buying or selling and that drove up transaction fees to outrageous levels. But now that the bubble has burst, the fees have gone way down, which is why I was asking if autowithdrawal could be free again. To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

That is true, they can't just increase the fee when it goes up but also need to consider to adjust when it comes down.

We did consider removing weekly withdrawal completely but we have a number of customers that are not active but have invested in recruiting a large number of referrals. They are the ones that typically have auto withdraw turned on and we don't feel it is right to keep changing the fee as they will not necessarily know it has happened. They are also the type of customer that is happy to pay 3000 sats a week for the convenience. For anyone that is actively using the site using the slow withdrawal makes much more sense.

To me it doesn't matter as much as my first question which was about having the minimum at a level that takes months for an honest player to reach when it used to take a few weeks.

Meow

I hear you, it was only 30 free rolls when I started. This is much more a function of Bitcoin and micropayments than a freebitco.in issue. If we reduced it then we could easily get to the point that Tx fees go up again and I'll be answering endless complaints that fee is higher than the withdrawal amount. Just wait until we add other coins and I'm sure we'll offer other options to get your coin out.

[pepi]

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got  9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

wetsuit help me many times, , I told them same, and he never doubt. So if he was not ask question, who are you to ask me and accuse me?
And second , when my brother get 27 sathosi, I regularly got half of that. So in other words system found that I "cheat- by your words" when he got 9989 but not found to "cheat" when he got any other. Should I take two cable modems and pay two different cable providers to get two different IP?
 

[StelioKontos]

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got  9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

what's next? calling the F.B.I.for sharing a router? you can't expect to not have those kind of situations, I'd say they are the most common than ever. the site too promotes referral as sharing with family and friends, so he's doing anything illegal. Furthermore, the website doesn't allow more than 1 free roll claim per IP per hour, so it would be useless to "cheat" in that way.

[Betwrong]

We did consider removing weekly withdrawal completely but we have a number of customers that are not active but have invested in recruiting a large number of referrals. They are the ones that typically have auto withdraw turned on and we don't feel it is right to keep changing the fee as they will not necessarily know it has happened. They are also the type of customer that is happy to pay 3000 sats a week for the convenience. For anyone that is actively using the site using the slow withdrawal makes much more sense.

Weekly withdrawals have no sense for me personally since the transaction fees, 0.00003000, would eat almost all my income there. I disabled auto withdraw several months ago and now I have 60k satoshis on my FreeBitco.in  balance.

But I think you are doing the right thing keeping it because otherwise it would be unfair to those who invested their time (and maybe money even) in recruiting a large number of referrals.

[raysa]

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got  9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Probably the system has detected you guys as fraudulent accounts as cheating the referral system due to the fact that both of you share the same IP. If you guys do then that is indeed the problem. Or maybe you just made up the brother and me story so you can withdraw your winnings and referral commission, if so you should probably stop as it's illegal.

what's next? calling the F.B.I.for sharing a router? you can't expect to not have those kind of situations, I'd say they are the most common than ever. the site too promotes referral as sharing with family and friends, so he's doing anything illegal. Furthermore, the website doesn't allow more than 1 free roll claim per IP per hour, so it would be useless to "cheat" in that way.

So this called miss / fail / some bug ? idk much about web but i can say you got it but not much as you can imagine.
hope you get answer about your problem sir.

[wetsuit]

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got  9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Please pm me both user id's. This should never happen, everyone should get commissions for each roll. You can go through your bet history in the MULTIPLY BTC page around that time to see if there are any changes to the balance. The commissions will not show up as credit there but your balance will have changed by the amount of the commissions.

[wetsuit]

We shall set the auto-withdraw fee to the current slow withdraw fee at the time when payments are made after this Sundays payout.

[UnlimiteDinasty]

Good morning, i have some problem about the reduced awards algorithm in the last weeks, I've been reading but I did not see anything like this.

When the algorithm was implemented, it happened to my account but then when improvements were made (thx) it was not more "limited", but recently it was again and I really do not understand what happens.

Maybe my IP has been blocked, blacklisted or something like that... So what can I do besides deposit $50 ?

PD: I'm sorry the english t's not my native language.

[TheQuin]

Good morning, i have some problem about the reduced awards algorithm in the last weeks, I've been reading but I did not see anything like this.

When the algorithm was implemented, it happened to my account but then when improvements were made (thx) it was not more "limited", but recently it was again and I really do not understand what happens.

Maybe my IP has been blocked, blacklisted or something like that... So what can I do besides deposit $50 ?

PD: I'm sorry the english t's not my native language.

There were changes that were made to fine-tune the system so that would explain why you were temporarily above the threshold and then below again. Other than keeping a balance above $50 you can also play Hi-Lo, jackpots, or buy lottery tickets as it is a combination of all those things.
 

[UnlimiteDinasty]

There were changes that were made to fine-tune the system so that would explain why you were temporarily above the threshold and then below again. Other than keeping a balance above $50 you can also play Hi-Lo, jackpots, or buy lottery tickets as it is a combination of all those things.
 

Ok, I will continue doing it.

By the way excuse me if I sound ignorant but this will be permanent for my account?

PD: (To avoid an answer thanking you) Thanks for the quick reply.

[pepi]

My brother and I have two accounts and one is referral to another. Today he got  9989 on free roll and about 2300 satoshi, but referral doesnot get anything ( before will get 1/2) from that value

Hash to verify

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=6b7a6aa7f197ff9ab0ea62d81d4407e73a46d83c0997f845789ad9ce0a0e0e8b&client_seed=Cvw6IpNt7WcvcGrm&server_seed_hash=0980616556f786f0ec40e1363b57d8f37e7890437ffad4a75b7bce5475902971&nonce=94

Please pm me both user id's. This should never happen, everyone should get commissions for each roll. You can go through your bet history in the MULTIPLY BTC page around that time to see if there are any changes to the balance. The commissions will not show up as credit there but your balance will have changed by the amount of the commissions.

I sent you PM with data you needed

[babygun]

Good morning, i have some problem about the reduced awards algorithm in the last weeks, I've been reading but I did not see anything like this.

When the algorithm was implemented, it happened to my account but then when improvements were made (thx) it was not more "limited", but recently it was again and I really do not understand what happens.

Maybe my IP has been blocked, blacklisted or something like that... So what can I do besides deposit $50 ?

PD: I'm sorry the english t's not my native language.

There were changes that were made to fine-tune the system so that would explain why you were temporarily above the threshold and then below again. Other than keeping a balance above $50 you can also play Hi-Lo, jackpots, or buy lottery tickets as it is a combination of all those things.
 

What is the reason to halve the rewards if you don't have 50$ in your balance? This gives me a bad feeling. In a way you are forcing players to deposit BTC or gamble just to have full base rewards... Yes freebitco.in has done some good things (like the interest), but this I don't get.

[MinerHQ]

We shall set the auto-withdraw fee to the current slow withdraw fee at the time when payments are made after this Sundays payout.

It is good decision finally. Thanks for changing your mind to reduce the fee.

When we can change the withdrawal fee prices go up then if we give any kind of excuses for not reducing the fee when prices come down it doesn't look good.

What is the reason to halve the rewards if you don't have 50$ in your balance? This gives me a bad feeling. In a way you are forcing players to deposit BTC or gamble just to have full base rewards... Yes freebitco.in has done some good things (like the interest), but this I don't get.

As a site, they also need to make a profit other than just giving out money. Since it is a free money so they can set their own rules to give free rewards and I don't think anything wrong with that rule.

[TheQuin]

We shall set the auto-withdraw fee to the current slow withdraw fee at the time when payments are made after this Sundays payout.

It is good decision finally. Thanks for changing your mind to reduce the fee.

When we can change the withdrawal fee prices go up then if we give any kind of excuses for not reducing the fee when prices come down it doesn't look good.

As I was saying the reluctance was due to thinking about what happens the next time fees go high again. If people have auto-withdraw set they wouldn't necessarily know they were going to get charged a high amount. But wetsuit has come up with a solution which is to use the dynamic slow fee at the time of the withdrawal but to cap it at a maximum of 3000 sats.

What is the reason to halve the rewards if you don't have 50$ in your balance? This gives me a bad feeling. In a way you are forcing players to deposit BTC or gamble just to have full base rewards... Yes freebitco.in has done some good things (like the interest), but this I don't get.

As a site, they also need to make a profit other than just giving out money. Since it is a free money so they can set their own rules to give free rewards and I don't think anything wrong with that rule.

It's something forced on us by the botnets, the $0.001 base reward isn't profitable for them and they're not going deposit and gamble. We're not forcing anyone to deposit or gamble but we can give you the full $0.002 if you do.

By the way excuse me if I sound ignorant but this will be permanent for my account?

It's not seen as being temporary but things are always changing.

[Betwrong]

We shall set the auto-withdraw fee to the current slow withdraw fee at the time when payments are made after this Sundays payout.

Although this won't affect me since I disabled auto-withdraw, I greet this decision because it will definitely affect many users positively, especially those who earn from referrals. This will be really great for them to have the transaction fee reduced almost 80 times (from 0.00003000 to 0.00000040 BTC as of now).

Also I want to share my joy from rolling this beautiful number right now

[veleten]

We shall set the auto-withdraw fee to the current slow withdraw fee at the time when payments are made after this Sundays payout.

Although this won't affect me since I disabled auto-withdraw, I greet this decision because it will definitely affect many users positively, especially those who earn from referrals. This will be really great for them to have the transaction fee reduced almost 80 times (from 0.00003000 to 0.00000040 BTC as of now).

Also I want to share my joy from rolling this beautiful number right now

think it was 30k before,not 3k
but reducing the fee is a good thing whichever way you look at it
sadly,I got suckered in playing Hi-lo and postponed my possible withdrawal to some very distant future
but will keep claiming it ,lazily,just to have chances to win the lottery

[TheQuin]

think it was 30k before,not 3k
but reducing the fee is a good thing whichever way you look at it
sadly,I got suckered in playing Hi-lo and postponed my possinble withdrawal to some very distant future
but will keep claiming it ,lazily,just to have chances to win the lottery

The weekly withdrawal fee was and still is 3k, you can check it now. We're not making the change until next week. It's the minimum withdrawal amount that is 30k.

[veleten]

think it was 30k before,not 3k
but reducing the fee is a good thing whichever way you look at it
sadly,I got suckered in playing Hi-lo and postponed my possible withdrawal to some very distant future
but will keep claiming it ,lazily,just to have chances to win the lottery

The weekly withdrawal fee was and still is 3k, you can check it now. We're not making the change until next week. It's the minimum withdrawal amount that is 30k.

I see,my bad thought 30k was the fee as well as the minimum withdrawal amount
any plans to lower the withdrawal amount? since 14 satoshi claims will take around a year to get to a minimum

[Warfare]

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