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July 16, 2018, 07:53:06 AM |
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We had a few occasions when the slow withdrawal wasn't getting confirmed on the network for many hours and our support email got filled up with "Where's my money you scammers?' and the like. So we have increased the fee we use to try and ensure it always gets into the next block.
there is always some damn newbies who would ruin it for everyone. and the concern is not about paying 200 satoshi! it is about the fact that mempool now contains transactions that are paying 5 times the recommended fee and that can be the start of how fees shoot up whenever there is a backlog.
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TheQuin
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July 16, 2018, 07:56:39 AM |
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there is always some damn newbies who would ruin it for everyone.
and the concern is not about paying 200 satoshi! it is about the fact that mempool now contains transactions that are paying 5 times the recommended fee and that can be the start of how fees shoot up whenever there is a backlog.
FWIW I think exactly the same. The problem is that people are less likely to complain about that than they are to scream scam when they have to wait for 12 hrs for a confirm. On the plus side, the change won't affect the mempool much as the slow withdrawals are batched together and only one Tx is sent every 6 hours.
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July 16, 2018, 08:17:06 AM |
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Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it
I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets. With something like bet high and bet low button, I can still manage it to get few rollover but if only there is only one button and I need to click to change it again then it seema like they are cheating on me. When I change the button from high to low the result will change drastically too, so the result almost 80% losing. That is why I do not really like wagering competition anyway. Sorry no offend
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jessraely
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July 16, 2018, 11:09:32 AM |
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
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TheQuin
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July 16, 2018, 11:13:18 AM |
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
Yes, that's how it works. It is 1 RP the first time and it increases by 1 RP everytime you use it. When you don't use it there is a cooldown period and it will start reducing based on the proportion of RP captcha Vs. captcha.
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July 16, 2018, 11:37:47 AM |
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Yes, this is pretty huge amount to wager just in a couple of days actually so may be around 3 days or something he already got that amount and I know this will be no chance for me like low player to wager that huge amount. But to have 0.1 btc wager with 0.001 and 1.01x multiplier, I think you will lose fast, you need to wager 100 times to cover your initial bet mean while it is better if you use 1.1x multiplier. But all of this is not a guarantee you can achieve that. But basically when I have 0.1 btc with 0.001 btc, the wagered amount will be around 4x-5x. Never hit more than that ever, but may be you can try it
I've got out of the Multiply BTC bonus a few times with a 25x rollover requirement. I don't like using the low multiplier strategy for this, I'd rather just bet normally. Trying lots of low multiplier bets just reduces the probability of variance being in your favour. The higher the number of bets the closer to the expected value you get. That's the same reason bots and scripts reduce your chances. I prefer to make fewer larger bets. With something like bet high and bet low button, I can still manage it to get few rollover but if only there is only one button and I need to click to change it again then it seema like they are cheating on me. When I change the button from high to low the result will change drastically too, so the result almost 80% losing. That is why I do not really like wagering competition anyway. Sorry no offend I hope you understand that it's just a coincidence. There is no correlation whatsoever between your betting HI or LO and the probability of winning a bet. I'm not urging you to take part in the wagering competition, but your reason for not liking it looks very strange to me. I rarely play HI/LO game on FreeBitco.in, but just now played couple of minutes and I had 8 greens in a row with 2x multiplier. I've seen much more greens in a row but never on this site. I mean, this can happen even with the 5% house edge the site has.
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July 16, 2018, 11:50:54 AM |
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4 reward point per roll, -1 per no captcha =3 7 rp - 2 = 5 9 rp - 3 = 6 11 rp - 4 = 7 11 rp - 5 = 6 10 rp - 6 = 4 8 rp - 7 = 1
wait, did you just say cool down? let's hear it......
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Thirdspace
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July 16, 2018, 10:56:10 PM |
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
Yes, that's how it works. It is 1 RP the first time and it increases by 1 RP everytime you use it. When you don't use it there is a cooldown period and it will start reducing based on the proportion of RP captcha Vs. captcha. where can I find this "pay with point than captcha"? is it only offered to user that has captcha protected free roll claim? and also the unlock stat mentioned by Camaradab, is that only available to the same user?
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 05:02:58 AM |
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
Yes, that's how it works. It is 1 RP the first time and it increases by 1 RP everytime you use it. When you don't use it there is a cooldown period and it will start reducing based on the proportion of RP captcha Vs. captcha. where can I find this "pay with point than captcha"? is it only offered to user that has captcha protected free roll claim? and also the unlock stat mentioned by Camaradab, is that only available to the same user? If your account already meets any requirements then the 'requirement to unlock...' section is not necessary and therefore not displayed. Requirements to unlock bonuses is displayed on the top of the free rolls page and play without captcha is just above the captcha and roll button.
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jackg
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July 17, 2018, 06:50:41 AM |
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there is a new "pay with point than captcha" thing, feels like getting bigger the more you use it.....
Yes, that's how it works. It is 1 RP the first time and it increases by 1 RP everytime you use it. When you don't use it there is a cooldown period and it will start reducing based on the proportion of RP captcha Vs. captcha. where can I find this "pay with point than captcha"? is it only offered to user that has captcha protected free roll claim? and also the unlock stat mentioned by Camaradab, is that only available to the same user? If your account already meets any requirements then the 'requirement to unlock...' section is not necessary and therefore not displayed. Requirements to unlock bonuses is displayed on the top of the free rolls page and play without captcha is just above the captcha and roll button. So, thirdspace, I think the answer is no. I think TheQuin is saying that if you don't have the requirement to do a captcha then you don't get that extra reward point. Another user asked what the cooldown bit is also @TheQuin just a bit above (I'm curious)?
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 06:58:28 AM |
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So, thirdspace, I think the answer is no. I think TheQuin is saying that if you don't have the requirement to do a captcha then you don't get that extra reward point.
Another user asked what the cooldown bit is also @TheQuin just a bit above (I'm curious)?
Yes, that is exactly what I told thirdspace. Cooldown period means as well as the ratio of RP rolls Vs. captcha rolls time also has an effect. The ratio determines how quickly it reduces.
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jackg
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July 17, 2018, 07:02:08 AM |
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So, thirdspace, I think the answer is no. I think TheQuin is saying that if you don't have the requirement to do a captcha then you don't get that extra reward point.
Another user asked what the cooldown bit is also @TheQuin just a bit above (I'm curious)?
Yes, that is exactly what I told thirdspace. Cooldown period means as well as the ratio of RP rolls Vs. captcha rolls time also has an effect. The ratio determines how quickly it reduces. Ahh yeah I must've missed something somewhere. And, that's why I had to go back and do a captcha then when I came back to this site...
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 07:08:31 AM |
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And, that's why I had to go back and do a captcha then when I came back to this site...
I'm not sure but we might be talking at cross purposes here. The play with no captcha for RP feature was only introduced yesterday. It allows users to pay using RP to avoid doing a captcha. The first one costs 1 RP and the cost increases by 1 RP everytime they use it. When it gets to a cost they no longer want to pay they can then start doing captchas again and wait for the cost to come back down. I think what might have happened to you is more like to be the "PLAY FREE BTC WITHOUT CAPTCHA" which is accessed from the "REQUIREMENTS TO UNLOCK BONUSES" at the top of the page.
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poptok1
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July 17, 2018, 08:32:47 AM |
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I don't see this link to access "Account Bonus Requirements". Is this due to that I'm rolling without captcha already? I like this idea though making RP consumption grow exponentially seems a little overdone. Does it have any limits? You may face people that spent all their RP without knowing, unnecessary customer complains / tickets on the horizon. Important (at least for me) feature is missing still, deleting inactive referrals from the lists. Can it be done somehow? I presume than new version of the site will still use referral systems from before. IMO worth to implement such feature. I like to have clarity and order with my accounts, inactive refs are a pain for me to watch/track About the new contest... meh something for bottom-feeders please...
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 08:41:16 AM Last edit: July 17, 2018, 09:03:32 AM by TheQuin |
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I don't see this link to access "Account Bonus Requirements". Is this due to that I'm rolling without captcha already? I like this idea though making RP consumption grow exponentially seems a little overdone. Does it have any limits? You may face people that spent all their RP without knowing, unnecessary customer complains / tickets on the horizon.
We only show what requirements you need to achieve if you haven't already achieved them. The offer of doing a free roll without captcha explicitly tells them how many RP it will cost them each time they choose to use it and they have the option of doing the captcha instead. 1+1+1 is not exponential, it is linear. The limit is when they decide to stop using it. Then when they do go back to solving captchas instead, the price decays. Important (at least for me) feature is missing still, deleting inactive referrals from the lists. Can it be done somehow? I presume than new version of the site will still use referral systems from before. IMO worth to implement such feature. I like to have clarity and order with my accounts, inactive refs are a pain for me to watch/track We can't delete old accounts because people come back after years away. I'll suggest to wetsuit giving you the option to hide them. About the new contest... meh something for bottom-feeders please... I've thought of something for smaller gamblers already. We'll have to wait and see if wetsuit decides to do it.
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July 17, 2018, 10:44:00 AM |
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And, that's why I had to go back and do a captcha then when I came back to this site...
I'm not sure but we might be talking at cross purposes here. The play with no captcha for RP feature was only introduced yesterday. It allows users to pay using RP to avoid doing a captcha. The first one costs 1 RP and the cost increases by 1 RP everytime they use it. When it gets to a cost they no longer want to pay they can then start doing captchas again and wait for the cost to come back down. I think what might have happened to you is more like to be the "PLAY FREE BTC WITHOUT CAPTCHA" which is accessed from the "REQUIREMENTS TO UNLOCK BONUSES" at the top of the page. But isn't this the same? Could someone take a print of what happens when we press "PLAY WITHUT CAPTCHA"?
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 10:49:14 AM |
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But isn't this the same?
No, as I explained in the text you just quoted. One is a set of requirements to meet that removes captcha the other is paying with Reward Points to do a roll without captcha. Could someone take a print of what happens when we press "PLAY WITHUT CAPTCHA"?
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July 17, 2018, 11:02:33 AM |
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Can I ask a quick question TheQuin.
Let's say I deposit enough Bitcoin or buy enough tickets to unlock playing without a captcha, and then I do nothing except play for free without a captcha. Will that last indefinitely, or will I have to deposit/wager/buy more after a set amount of time to keep the no-captcha-bonus?
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TheQuin
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July 17, 2018, 11:04:59 AM Last edit: July 17, 2018, 04:42:32 PM by TheQuin |
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Can I ask a quick question TheQuin.
Let's say I deposit enough Bitcoin or buy enough tickets to unlock playing without a captcha, and then I do nothing except play for free without a captcha. Will that last indefinitely, or will I have to deposit/wager/buy more after a set amount of time to keep the no-captcha-bonus?
No, the requirements in terms of wagering and lotto ticket purchases are a ratio against how much you get from free rolls. Maintaining a balance above the limit is the way to go if you don't want to gamble.
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July 17, 2018, 11:10:31 AM |
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But isn't this the same?
No, as I explained in the text you just quoted. One is a set of requirements to meet that removes captcha the other is paying with Reward Points to do a roll without captcha. Could someone take a print of what happens when we press "PLAY WITHUT CAPTCHA"?
Thank you now I see were my confusion was
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