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[netrix12]

Many accounts were caught because there was a new program. but it is very sad for users who form communities and work together to manage multiple accounts from members in turn.

Sometimes many members to manage 1 account need services from others with agreed benefits.

Regarding this, I don't think it is cheating because the one managed has a balance of less than 0.001 btc

Please reconsider, to the freebitco.in web manager
(Mr. TheQuin & Mr. Wetsuit)

Greetings TeamWork

I think it is very sad that the rewards we are able to offer our honest customers are reduced by greedy cheats running multiple accounts and then coming up with bullshit excuses when they get caught. The only reason we are getting so many complaints this time is that we've found a lot of abusers that have been getting away with it for a long time and they believed they could cheat us forever.

whatever good goals you would not hide behind, the fact remains, you stole money from the accounts of users. this is bad. I hope that people will be more careful with your site and stop there to store their deposits.

[zhorabolshakov89]

Did you enable payout to referrals? Some payout settings might be enabled by default

This shouldn't in the least affect my visible balance

The payouts you refer to come from my referral commissions, i.e. not from free rolls, and they are made before they are reflected on my balance as far as I can judge. This table doesn't show any payouts, and as I understand it, the incoming value should match the outgoing. If anything, my balance should have increased, not diminished, in any case (unless I pay back 100%, of course). But maybe I'm missing something else or there might be a bug after all

That is actually what happened. All referral income is added to your main balance at the instant it is made and then at the end of the week the share back is taken from your main balance.


Our new way of tracking down abuse of free-rolls and the referral program through multi-accounting has certainly caught a lot of abusers out. Some of them seem to think that making a deposit someone how makes them immune from being banned.

I don't know about any multi-accounting going on. I have 1 account that I registered recently. I put a Deposit on it in order to play MULTIPLY BTC and make some money on this. My ID 16684243
please check my account again. I don't understand why my account was blocked. Maybe it's some kind of software failure? Or you can not play the MULTIPLY BTC and it is a violation of your rules? I filled up the account more than BTC 0.04, and the last time on the balance was a little more BTC 0.03. So what am I deceiving you about if, in fact, I am at a loss from my original balance?

[deisik]

So if anyone is interested in this "one-time offer", i.e. in getting their referral payments back, let me know

I'm interested in getting your details for that, seems a generous offer however I'm not that great at referring people so much

Look here for more info

Did you enable payout to referrals? Some payout settings might be enabled by default

This shouldn't in the least affect my visible balance

The payouts you refer to come from my referral commissions, i.e. not from free rolls, and they are made before they are reflected on my balance as far as I can judge. This table doesn't show any payouts, and as I understand it, the incoming value should match the outgoing. If anything, my balance should have increased, not diminished, in any case (unless I pay back 100%, of course). But maybe I'm missing something else or there might be a bug after all

That is actually what happened. All referral income is added to your main balance at the instant it is made and then at the end of the week the share back is taken from your main balance

This is the conclusion that I finally arrived at myself (by excluding everything else)

Somehow I thought that the payouts are made as soon as the referral commission gets credited to your account, so it shouldn't lead to a visible decrease in the account balance, but obviously this was not the case. I don't particularly care but why not add this option by paying back instantly? In this way people who sign up for this "initiative" will be able to see that they are really paid back without having to wait for half a week (on average)

[TheQuin]

Somehow I thought that the payouts are made as soon as the referral commission gets credited to your account, so it shouldn't lead to a visible decrease in the account balance, but obviously this was not the case. I don't particularly care but why not add this option by paying back instantly? In this way people who sign up for this "initiative" will be able to see that they are really paid back without having to wait for half a week (on average)

It's just a technical issue. All rolls are processed and balances updated real-time as a priority task by the main servers and everything else runs from timed scripts on lower priority servers. We currently process 60 to 80 million rolls a day and update over 18 million balances in real time. Adding the task of processing referral share back would be a lot of extra load on those servers.

[deisik]

Somehow I thought that the payouts are made as soon as the referral commission gets credited to your account, so it shouldn't lead to a visible decrease in the account balance, but obviously this was not the case. I don't particularly care but why not add this option by paying back instantly? In this way people who sign up for this "initiative" will be able to see that they are really paid back without having to wait for half a week (on average)

It's just a technical issue. All rolls are processed and balances updated real-time as a priority task by the main servers and everything else runs from timed scripts on lower priority servers. We currently process 60 to 80 million rolls a day and update over 18 million balances in real time. Adding the task of processing referral share back would be a lot of extra load on those servers

I think it shouldn't be a lot of overhead if any

Technically, you don't even have to first credit the referral commission to the referred user account and then debit it with the share paid back to the referral. You can just credit the referral account balance directly without all this chit-chat between balances. As you can see, it can in fact diminish the load on the servers if implemented properly. And I think it is definitely worth the job as it will allow referrals to see if they are actually paid back as promised. But it is up to you, of course, as I'm not the one who is being paid back here

[zhorabolshakov89]

Somehow I thought that the payouts are made as soon as the referral commission gets credited to your account, so it shouldn't lead to a visible decrease in the account balance, but obviously this was not the case. I don't particularly care but why not add this option by paying back instantly? In this way people who sign up for this "initiative" will be able to see that they are really paid back without having to wait for half a week (on average)

It's just a technical issue. All rolls are processed and balances updated real-time as a priority task by the main servers and everything else runs from timed scripts on lower priority servers. We currently process 60 to 80 million rolls a day and update over 18 million balances in real time. Adding the task of processing referral share back would be a lot of extra load on those servers.

It is strange that records that you stole deposits of ordinary users, you pass, and answer questions concerning referrals. Why? Why can't you answer my questions? If I understand you correctly, it says that deposits that were made by ordinary users and were randomly blocked (I believe that this is an accident), you will not return? Why not make a feedback form, in order to allow users to apply to their accounts were tested in a manual manner in the presence of blocking errors from your side? Personally, I have no bots or multiaccounters not engaged

[Betwrong]

120 referrals is something I can't even imagine how to get. From my experience, people never click ref links, and thus I have zero referrals. How have managed to get that much?

That was years ago

And I was one of the first users of this facet (my ID is in the second thousand). Back then it was only a facet and nothing else. Interestingly, when I was leaving the site, I set my share percentage to 100%, i.e. all my referral commissions were paid back to my referrals, and let the forum know. And what d'ya think, some dude managed to earn 0.0026 BTC through his referral payments to me paid back to him (good for him, I don't mind)
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Wow, 100% back! No wonder you've got so many referrals then.

I've been using the site for quite some time myself. I remember times when 1,000 satoshis was the minimum payout on the free rolls, but you probably were there even earlier.


@TheQuin Can you tell how many lottery tickets should I buy for increasing my FREE BTC rewards to +0.00001083 BTC ?

[zhorabolshakov89]

Why can't my account login?
mail:a013124a@gmail.com

Because you were stealing from freebitco.in and stealing is bad. I don't have any hopes but maybe you can try to play legit this time. Because of the botters like you, I am getting 1/3 of what I should be getting from this faucet.

So why is my new account unable to log in after depositing 0.01BTC, I have not done anything yet.

How can you exactly make a deposit but you can't login to your new account? This is really weird after all

If you are making something bad here and getting an ip ban, I believe that you do not have any access through the site anymore but while you still can login then you should get a deposit and wager X amount to make sure you can keep on claiming faucet and of course with some bonus with it

I don't have to lie,This is my deposit record,https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/91feb2abcbf156a44a02fa5f2ea5e5f165b96fcc9a2033edd8354175e7b501bb,The fact is that I can't log in after I deposit it into 0.01BTC.

This is another proof that the site freebitco.in stealing our Deposit and charged us with fraud instead of trying to understand what is happening. Maybe the new system really was a mistake and hurt innocent people. Or freebitco.in carries huge losses and decided to earn on honest users covering it with the fact that they are all scammers

[deisik]

That was years ago

And I was one of the first users of this facet (my ID is in the second thousand). Back then it was only a facet and nothing else. Interestingly, when I was leaving the site, I set my share percentage to 100%, i.e. all my referral commissions were paid back to my referrals, and let the forum know. And what d'ya think, some dude managed to earn 0.0026 BTC through his referral payments to me paid back to him (good for him, I don't mind)
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Wow, 100% back! No wonder you've got so many referrals then

Actually, the majority of referrals came even before the introduction of the share system and likely even before the casino part of the site appeared (i.e. when it was only a faucet). I think it was around 2014 and back then you could just place a link with your referral code somewhere and have a bunch of users becoming your referrals in an hour or so. Times are different now, and these days you can't lure anyone even by paying them back everything

@TheQuin Can you tell how many lottery tickets should I buy for increasing my FREE BTC rewards to +0.00001083 BTC?

I'm also interested in finding that out

[DamiRuS66]

calm down and forget about your deposits!!!!! Quin is not tolerant. he does not see Russians. he thinks that all Russians are thieves. I wrote a message here in Russian. so that the Russians understand what is happening. But they removed it. do not try to understand Quin policy. Faucet died when Quin arrived.

[zhorabolshakov89]

calm down and forget about your deposits!!!!! Quin is not tolerant. he does not see Russians. he thinks that all Russians are thieves. I wrote a message here in Russian. so that the Russians understand what is happening. But they removed it. do not try to understand Quin policy. Faucet died when Quin arrived.

If he believes that all Russian thieves, then it is illegal, because he did not provide a single proof of what accuses the Russians. It's racist. And the fact that he does not want to return deposits is also not correct. Hence the crook here is only one - TheQuin. It takes away the money of normal users to cover their losses instead of punishing real scams that use bots and multi-account

[zhorabolshakov89]

The rules that have been explained have been understood by everyone. anyone who commits fraud will be immediately acted firmly.

Mr. TheQuin and Mr. Wetsuit have been very wise to maintain this website until now.

If there is disappointment or doubt about this web, it is very honorable to leave it but not comment as if it was fooled even though the bad intentions have been canceled by the owner of this web.

Greetings TEAMWORK

I don't argue with the fact that they are very wise to still support the freebitco website.in, but not at the expense of other people's funds to do it? several people have already written that their accounts are blocked for unknown reasons. One of them just made a Deposit to your account and all, can no longer go. Is that normal? Is it a wise decision on their part?

[jackg]

@TheQuin Can you tell how many lottery tickets should I buy for increasing my FREE BTC rewards to +0.00001083 BTC?

I'm not sure lottery goes to that. I'm guessing it'll be a few billion if so because that's what the wagering one was. You may as well just badly use the multiply function with 1/30th of the balance wagered to get it up but the system is designed in a way to profit them for obvious reasons.

[LTU_btc]

I don't argue with the fact that they are very wise to still support the freebitco website.in, but not at the expense of other people's funds to do it? several people have already written that their accounts are blocked for unknown reasons. One of them just made a Deposit to your account and all, can no longer go. Is that normal? Is it a wise decision on their part?

Wtf you're talking about? They don't ban accounts without any reason. TheQuin explained multiple times in these thread why so many account got banned. And even if one abuser made deposit, it doesn't change anything. Probably he earned much more from Freebitco.in than he deposited. It's normal. I'll just quote part of their ToS to show you that Freebitco.in did nothing wrong by banning accounts with ballance:
[quoteI[]f you are found to be breaking any of the above rules or trying to gain an unfair advantage to abuse the service, your account will be deleted and your account balance forfeited.[/quote]

[zhorabolshakov89]

I don't argue with the fact that they are very wise to still support the freebitco website.in, but not at the expense of other people's funds to do it? several people have already written that their accounts are blocked for unknown reasons. One of them just made a Deposit to your account and all, can no longer go. Is that normal? Is it a wise decision on their part?

Wtf you're talking about? They don't ban accounts without any reason. TheQuin explained multiple times in these thread why so many account got banned. And even if one abuser made deposit, it doesn't change anything. Probably he earned much more from Freebitco.in than he deposited. It's normal. I'll just quote part of their ToS to show you that Freebitco.in did nothing wrong by banning accounts with ballance:
[quoteI[]f you are found to be breaking any of the above rules or trying to gain an unfair advantage to abuse the service, your account will be deleted and your account balance forfeited.

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I do not argue with the fact that they blocked the accounts of intruders. But what does my account have to do? Why did you hurt me?

[ralle14]

The rules that have been explained have been understood by everyone. anyone who commits fraud will be immediately acted firmly.

Mr. TheQuin and Mr. Wetsuit have been very wise to maintain this website until now.

If there is disappointment or doubt about this web, it is very honorable to leave it but not comment as if it was fooled even though the bad intentions have been canceled by the owner of this web.

Greetings TEAMWORK

I don't argue with the fact that they are very wise to still support the freebitco website.in, but not at the expense of other people's funds to do it? several people have already written that their accounts are blocked for unknown reasons. One of them just made a Deposit to your account and all, can no longer go. Is that normal? Is it a wise decision on their part?

Afaik when accounts get blocked they're still allowed to withdraw their funds from the site. If they don't give back their deposits then that means they're stealing and negative feedbacks can be given to them if this was the case for all blocked accounts who made deposits.

They don't want to give us anything back. Accuse us of fraud. And Mr. TheQuin is ignoring us. We look forward to hearing and making informed decisions about our accounts

If you withdrew more than or at least the same of what you deposited from your account I think that's the only time they'll immediately ban your account and take away all your funds without hesitation.

[zhorabolshakov89]

The rules that have been explained have been understood by everyone. anyone who commits fraud will be immediately acted firmly.

Mr. TheQuin and Mr. Wetsuit have been very wise to maintain this website until now.

If there is disappointment or doubt about this web, it is very honorable to leave it but not comment as if it was fooled even though the bad intentions have been canceled by the owner of this web.

Greetings TEAMWORK

I don't argue with the fact that they are very wise to still support the freebitco website.in, but not at the expense of other people's funds to do it? several people have already written that their accounts are blocked for unknown reasons. One of them just made a Deposit to your account and all, can no longer go. Is that normal? Is it a wise decision on their part?

Afaik when accounts get blocked they're still allowed to withdraw their funds from the site. If they don't give back their deposits then that means they're stealing and negative feedbacks can be given to them if this was the case for all blocked accounts who made deposits.

They don't want to give us anything back. Accuse us of fraud. And Mr. TheQuin is ignoring us. We look forward to hearing and making informed decisions about our accounts

[broke_tradah]

Afaik when accounts get blocked they're still allowed to withdraw their funds from the site.

Thats actually never been the case for account bans.  The ban that they are referring to is not a ban on simply using free rolls which would allow for withdrawal,  it's a ban from logging into the account at all,  thus they cant withdraw.  It looks like TheQuack pissed off the wrong Russians though by the looks of things here in the forums lol.  Rather amusing watching all the drama of thieves fighting amongst themselves.

[Supercrypt]

No, the payouts do not go back to them instantly, they do get to your wallet first and after the week ends you pay them basically, I mean you do not pay them by hand so you wouldn't know about it but you do pay them automatically, that is how your wallet decreases every week.

I have been in the affiliate business for a while and I have couple of big players in my affiliates and I do pay them back a bit to make them stay as my affiliates (its easy to keep small affiliates since they do not matter too much and can't find a better affiliate but its hard to keep big whales as your affiliates since they could just find a better rate of pay back somewhere else). I have seen the same happen to my wallet as well, sometimes I check my wallet and see a lot of money gone and then realize what happened couple seconds later, scariest seconds of my life I may add .

[zhorabolshakov89]

Afaik when accounts get blocked they're still allowed to withdraw their funds from the site.

Thats actually never been the case for account bans.  The ban that they are referring to is not a ban on simply using free rolls which would allow for withdrawal,  it's a ban from logging into the account at all,  thus they cant withdraw.  It looks like TheQuack pissed off the wrong Russians though by the looks of things here in the forums lol.  Rather amusing watching all the drama of thieves fighting amongst themselves.

Why does everyone call me a thief? I'm just trying to figure out why I was blocked. But I do not give a clear answer and do not give any evidence. Words only, I'm a thief and a fraud. I just filled up my account and played MULTIPLY BTC. Is this fraud?