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February 25, 2014, 09:03:59 AM
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Hey guys,

To those that have tried my web client http://nxtra.org/nxt-client ; A beta version is now available for download here:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/dev.zip

Unzip, move the dev folder to nxt/html/tools/dev

Then go to http://localhost:7876/dev

This is assuming you have 0.8.1e installed (it will not work correctly on older versions!) - do not try

I suggest you connect to TestNet first though; in the upper left corner you can switch between TestNet and localhost. Try everything out in TestNet first, when you are comfortable you can connect locally. There may still be errors in the code, it's a beta after all.

Not everything is done yet, and Internet Explorer is completely untested. I suggest you use either chrome/firefox or safari for now.

Also need to do some more interactive updating after submission of forms, etc.

if you want, you can send me a message there via the alias wesleynxt (just open the send message dialog and type wesleynxt in the account field). Messages are not yet encrypted.

Let me know what you think.


I have the active 0.8.1.e client and I can not connect through the client file :/ / / C :/ nxt / html / tools / dev / dev / index.html #

You should put it at tools/dev not tools/dev/dev (but it shouldn't matter).

You are acessing it through http://localhost:7876/dev/ right? Do not double click on index.html as it will open via file:// which does not work.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7876.

Have you just clicked the link here:

http://localhost:7876/dev/

That should work, otherwise your java may not be running. Check if http://localhost:7875 works

Anyway, I'm off, will answer questions later.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7875
java is working because nrs client 8.0.1e is working well

How do you know 8.0.1e is working if you can't access http://localhost:7875 ?

I access by http://127.0.0.1:7875/

 Roll Eyes

OK, have you tried http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev  

Please show a screenshot of the error on that page.
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February 25, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
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yes.. we're searching to a donations/bounties  to run a node .. or to forge ( help the Nxt server ) .
Huh
I think this is a bad idea. Either the network/nxt itself can care of or this will fail.
- agree.

but if we want more nodes, and people can not create new ones because it has no budget .. how do we support the Nxt ?

This is a part of the whole discussion, my friend  Grin

So what is the most sensible solution?
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February 25, 2014, 09:04:47 AM
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We are searching for the right incentives for:

- running a node (this secures the network)
- running a node, have an open nxt account and forging with it (this secures the security of nxt = 51% attacks ?!) DONE by TF.

FIFY.

Even with transparent forging, Nxt is still susceptible to 90% PoS attacks.
Financial attack
Somebody buys up all the NXT.
I raised this, but CfB said is was acceptable

Yes.  It would be very hard to mount this attack, because you would have to own 90% of the currency.
$100 billion USD is not much at all to some organizations

Don't forget that some people just won't sell.
$200? $500? $1000? A dozen swimsuit models?
Everybody has their price

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
100+ page annual report for SuperNET
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February 25, 2014, 09:04:51 AM
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yes.. we're searching to a donations/bounties  to run a node .. or to forge ( help the Nxt server ) .
Huh
I think this is a bad idea. Either the network/nxt itself can care of or this will fail.
- agree.

but if we want more nodes, and people can not create new ones because it has no budget .. how do we support the Nxt ?

This is a part of the whole discussion, my friend  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5355317#msg5355317

 
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February 25, 2014, 09:05:03 AM
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So what is the most sensible solution?


We are discussing right now what we should discuss. Don't rush things.
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February 25, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
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We are searching for the right incentives for:

- running a node (this secures the network)
- running a node, have an open nxt account and forging with it (this secures the security of nxt = 51% attacks ?!) DONE by TF.

FIFY.

Even with transparent forging, Nxt is still susceptible to 90% PoS attacks.
Financial attack
Somebody buys up all the NXT.
I raised this, but CfB said is was acceptable

Yes.  It would be very hard to mount this attack, because you would have to own 90% of the currency.
$100 billion USD is not much at all to some organizations

Don't forget that some people just won't sell.
$200? $500? $1000? A dozen swimsuit models?
Everybody has their price

HODL

 
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February 25, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
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We are searching for the right incentives for:

- running a node (this secures the network)
- running a node, have an open nxt account and forging with it (this secures the security of nxt = 90% attacks ?!) DONE by TF.

FIFY.

I think we shouldn't ignore the second point in our discussion since we need forging nodes. You say it is "done by TF" but TF only is the mechanism which saves us from 51% attacks. But we still need to talk about incentives for forging.
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February 25, 2014, 09:06:40 AM
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If you have your node running, but don't have any NXT, you are not securing the blockchain.
This is why the NXTcoins will payout dividends in NXT. for a signing bonus, I will probably just seed every miner with 1 NXT

James, please do not build upon false statements.

Huh? What false statements. What do you think I am saying?
- this statements is false: "If you have your node running, but don't have any NXT, you are not securing the blockchain.".

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February 25, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
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please send some testNxt: 17102884928221738157
- 5k testNXT sent.

hi abctc, do you have some testnxt left? -> 9998590259914237067

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February 25, 2014, 09:08:17 AM
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So what is the most sensible solution?


We are discussing right now what we should discuss. Don't rush things.


Ahahah  Grin I don't want to rush anything, but the solution is simple ..
Ps: sorry if I seem a little hasty
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February 25, 2014, 09:09:04 AM
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If you have your node running, but don't have any NXT, you are not securing the blockchain.
This is why the NXTcoins will payout dividends in NXT. for a signing bonus, I will probably just seed every miner with 1 NXT

James, please do not build upon false statements.

Huh? What false statements. What do you think I am saying?
- this statements is false: "If you have your node running, but don't have any NXT, you are not securing the blockchain.".
Oh. Seems like an interpretation thing. Every computing running NXT is helping. The ones that are forging help more. Not sure why having NXT going to NXTcoins miners isnt helping to build NXT network.

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please send some testNxt: 17102884928221738157
- 5k testNXT sent.

hi abctc, do you have some testnxt left? -> 9998590259914237067

thx

I've sent you 5 K TestNxt . Enjoy it Wink
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I seem to have some config param missing in my raspi - when I start 0.8.1e using:       java -Xmx128M -Xmx480M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

 most of the startup process incl. starting blockachin seems to go well, but it crashes when launching the ui server:


[2014-02-25 10:05:15.203] shareMyAddress is disabled, will not start peer networking server
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.289] nxt.allowedBotHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; 192.168.178:25; 192.168.178.26; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;"
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.300] nxt.enableAPIServer = "true"
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.304] nxt.apiServerPort = "7876"
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.312] nxt.apiServerHost = "127.0.0.1"
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.701] nxt.apiSSL = "false"
[2014-02-25 10:05:15.976] nxt.apiServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.002] nxt.apiResourceBase = "html/tools"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.318] nxt.javadocResourceBase = "html/doc"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.727] nxt.apiServerCORS = "false"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.814] nxt.allowedUserHosts = "127.0.0.1; localhost; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.820] nxt.enableUIServer = "true"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.825] nxt.uiServerPort = "7875"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.833] nxt.uiServerHost = "127.0.0.1; 0.0.0.0"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.838] nxt.uiSSL = "false"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.846] nxt.uiServerIdleTimeout = "30000"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.851] nxt.uiResourceBase = "html/nrs"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.857] nxt.javadocResourceBase = "html/doc"
[2014-02-25 10:05:16.870] nxt.uiServerCORS = "false"
[2014-02-25 10:05:17.123] Genesis block already in database
[2014-02-25 10:05:17.129] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-25 10:05:30.649] ...done
[2014-02-25 10:05:31.182] Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7876
[2014-02-25 10:05:31.306] DEBUG: Failed to start user interface server


However, on my regular workstation 0.8.1e starts without trouble:

[2014-02-25 09:34:35.931] Genesis block already in database
[2014-02-25 09:34:35.931] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-25 09:34:47.923] ...done
[2014-02-25 09:34:48.063] Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7874
[2014-02-25 09:34:48.066] Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7876
[2014-02-25 09:34:48.095] Started user interface server at 127.0.0.1:7875
[2014-02-25 09:34:48.098] Nxt server 0.8.1e started successfully.
[2014-02-25 09:41:59.910] nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "false"



What setting did I miss?


the console gives a stacktrace:


java.net.SocketException: Unresolved address
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.translateToSocketException(Net.java:157)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.translateException(Net.java:183)
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.translateException(Net.java:189)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketAdaptor.bind(ServerSocketAdaptor.java:76)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.server.ServerConnector.open(ServerConnector.java:279)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractNetworkConnector.doStart(AbstractNetworkConnector.java:80)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.server.ServerConnector.doStart(ServerConnector.java:218)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:69)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.doStart(Server.java:336)
   at org.eclipse.jetty.util.component.AbstractLifeCycle.start(AbstractLifeCycle.java:69)
   at nxt.user.Users$1.run(Users.java:153)
   at nxt.util.ThreadPool.start(ThreadPool.java:38)
   at nxt.Nxt$Init.<clinit>(Nxt.java:187)
   at nxt.Nxt.init(Nxt.java:156)
   at nxt.Nxt.main(Nxt.java:147)
Caused by: java.nio.channels.UnresolvedAddressException
   at sun.nio.ch.Net.checkAddress(Net.java:127)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketChannelImpl.bind(ServerSocketChannelImpl.java:208)
   at sun.nio.ch.ServerSocketAdaptor.bind(ServerSocketAdaptor.java:74)
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February 25, 2014, 09:13:39 AM
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Hey guys,

To those that have tried my web client http://nxtra.org/nxt-client ; A beta version is now available for download here:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/dev.zip

Unzip, move the dev folder to nxt/html/tools/dev

Then go to http://localhost:7876/dev

This is assuming you have 0.8.1e installed (it will not work correctly on older versions!) - do not try

I suggest you connect to TestNet first though; in the upper left corner you can switch between TestNet and localhost. Try everything out in TestNet first, when you are comfortable you can connect locally. There may still be errors in the code, it's a beta after all.

Not everything is done yet, and Internet Explorer is completely untested. I suggest you use either chrome/firefox or safari for now.

Also need to do some more interactive updating after submission of forms, etc.

if you want, you can send me a message there via the alias wesleynxt (just open the send message dialog and type wesleynxt in the account field). Messages are not yet encrypted.

Let me know what you think.


I have the active 0.8.1.e client and I can not connect through the client file :/ / / C :/ nxt / html / tools / dev / dev / index.html #

You should put it at tools/dev not tools/dev/dev (but it shouldn't matter).

You are acessing it through http://localhost:7876/dev/ right? Do not double click on index.html as it will open via file:// which does not work.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7876.

Have you just clicked the link here:

http://localhost:7876/dev/

That should work, otherwise your java may not be running. Check if http://localhost:7875 works

Anyway, I'm off, will answer questions later.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7875
java is working because nrs client 8.0.1e is working well

How do you know 8.0.1e is working if you can't access http://localhost:7875 ?

I access by http://127.0.0.1:7875/

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OK, have you tried http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev  

Please show a screenshot of the error on that page.

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please send some testNxt: 17102884928221738157
- 5k testNXT sent.

hi abctc, do you have some testnxt left? -> 9998590259914237067

thx

I've sent you 5 K TestNxt . Enjoy it Wink

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Hey guys,

To those that have tried my web client http://nxtra.org/nxt-client ; A beta version is now available for download here:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/dev.zip

Unzip, move the dev folder to nxt/html/tools/dev

Then go to http://localhost:7876/dev

This is assuming you have 0.8.1e installed (it will not work correctly on older versions!) - do not try

I suggest you connect to TestNet first though; in the upper left corner you can switch between TestNet and localhost. Try everything out in TestNet first, when you are comfortable you can connect locally. There may still be errors in the code, it's a beta after all.

Not everything is done yet, and Internet Explorer is completely untested. I suggest you use either chrome/firefox or safari for now.

Also need to do some more interactive updating after submission of forms, etc.

if you want, you can send me a message there via the alias wesleynxt (just open the send message dialog and type wesleynxt in the account field). Messages are not yet encrypted.

Let me know what you think.


I have the active 0.8.1.e client and I can not connect through the client file :/ / / C :/ nxt / html / tools / dev / dev / index.html #

You should put it at tools/dev not tools/dev/dev (but it shouldn't matter).

You are acessing it through http://localhost:7876/dev/ right? Do not double click on index.html as it will open via file:// which does not work.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7876.

Have you just clicked the link here:

http://localhost:7876/dev/

That should work, otherwise your java may not be running. Check if http://localhost:7875 works

Anyway, I'm off, will answer questions later.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7875
java is working because nrs client 8.0.1e is working well

How do you know 8.0.1e is working if you can't access http://localhost:7875 ?

I access by http://127.0.0.1:7875/

 Roll Eyes

OK, have you tried http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev  

Please show a screenshot of the error on that page.

Directory: /dev/

Parent Directory      
__MACOSX/    0 bytes    25-feb-2014 0:06:05
dev/    4096 bytes    25-feb-2014 0:06:05

Click on the dev folder under there, you  have two. http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev/dev
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February 25, 2014, 09:17:06 AM
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hi abctc, do you have some testnxt left? -> 9998590259914237067
- 20k sent !

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February 25, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
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Hey guys,

To those that have tried my web client http://nxtra.org/nxt-client ; A beta version is now available for download here:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/dev.zip

Unzip, move the dev folder to nxt/html/tools/dev

Then go to http://localhost:7876/dev

This is assuming you have 0.8.1e installed (it will not work correctly on older versions!) - do not try

I suggest you connect to TestNet first though; in the upper left corner you can switch between TestNet and localhost. Try everything out in TestNet first, when you are comfortable you can connect locally. There may still be errors in the code, it's a beta after all.

Not everything is done yet, and Internet Explorer is completely untested. I suggest you use either chrome/firefox or safari for now.

Also need to do some more interactive updating after submission of forms, etc.

if you want, you can send me a message there via the alias wesleynxt (just open the send message dialog and type wesleynxt in the account field). Messages are not yet encrypted.

Let me know what you think.


I have the active 0.8.1.e client and I can not connect through the client file :/ / / C :/ nxt / html / tools / dev / dev / index.html #

You should put it at tools/dev not tools/dev/dev (but it shouldn't matter).

You are acessing it through http://localhost:7876/dev/ right? Do not double click on index.html as it will open via file:// which does not work.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7876.

Have you just clicked the link here:

http://localhost:7876/dev/

That should work, otherwise your java may not be running. Check if http://localhost:7875 works

Anyway, I'm off, will answer questions later.

Go! Google Chrome could not find the page localhost: 7875
java is working because nrs client 8.0.1e is working well

How do you know 8.0.1e is working if you can't access http://localhost:7875 ?

I access by http://127.0.0.1:7875/

 Roll Eyes

OK, have you tried http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev  

Please show a screenshot of the error on that page.

Directory: /dev/

Parent Directory      
__MACOSX/    0 bytes    25-feb-2014 0:06:05
dev/    4096 bytes    25-feb-2014 0:06:05

Click on the dev folder under there, you  have two. http://127.0.0.1:7876/dev/dev

Thanks!!!  Smiley
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February 25, 2014, 09:17:51 AM
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Ahahah  Grin I don't want to rush anything, but the solution is simple ..

Please explain us your bulletproof, not gameable, future-save solution, which doesn't require human intervention and doesn't affect other functions of Nxt.

Oh. Seems like an interpretation thing. Every computing running NXT is helping. The ones that are forging help more.

This should be clarified.
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February 25, 2014, 09:19:06 AM
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Whenever there is a chance for arbitrage, Dgex suspends instant BTC withdrawals Sad
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