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March 24, 2014, 06:00:30 AM
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For the user who was asking about wildcard SSL (I think it was xyzzyx) the cost to do it anonymosly is fairly high, almost 500 euro.  So unless someone knows that rapidssl/comodo/someoneElse will allow purchase with either anonymous or with known-to-be-not-real ID (startssl is very strict about real names, address, TN, etc) then thats the way to go.

That is much more expensive than I expected.

I've sent 2000 NXT to your itty-bitty 2319251 address to help pay for a wildcard SSL cert. (txid 4585985331078069817)

Hopefully, others will be inclined to do the same.  We only need a hand-full of people, say around 7 or so, to do the same and the cost should be covered.



Sending a little somethin somethin.


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March 24, 2014, 06:25:01 AM
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Could someone please send some testnet NXT to the following address: 4874805052937677329
- 5k testNXTs sent.

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March 24, 2014, 06:34:39 AM
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OK, everybody, your favorite dictator rickyjames here, flapping my gums wildly once more.

We've coming up on 2500 pages on this Bitcointalk thread.  What an accomplishment!!!  Woo Hoo!!!

We have a new forum that is Our Very Own at nxtforum.org .   Go ahead, enter it into your address bar of your browser, it works and it's a Simple Machine forum just like this one at Bitcointalk.  You'll feel right at home.

I've created a thread there called NXT Pub Thread - 2500 More Pages Here Or Bust

http://107.170.117.237/index.php/topic,91.0.html

I propose that 2Kool lock this thread at page 2500 and we do a mass migration over there.

It would be nice, neat, poetic closure.  And a new beginning.

Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUQbLz7AoYc

C'mon, everybody.  Think Nike.  Just do it.


I don't agree about closing this thread

thats the beautiful thing about having an authority. no need to bicker and argue over it for a fortnight. its up to 2kool4skewl to decide. incidentally i agree that he probably shouldn't close the thread but either decision is better than arguing about it. Cheesy

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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March 24, 2014, 06:46:53 AM
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I propose that 2Kool lock this thread at page 2500 and we do a mass migration over there.

Absolutely not

Nomi, Shan, Adnan, Noshi, Nxt, Adn Khn
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March 24, 2014, 07:08:46 AM
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My bitbucket account was been hacked, all my project files are gone... I still have eclipse backups though Smiley.

Someone is trying to hurt NXT...

There are always hostile hater, look at what happened to XCP

NXT: 13997163105778396158
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March 24, 2014, 07:14:07 AM
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being able to correlate a single transaction like you describe is an extremely bold claim.  Maybe now its not so terribly difficult, but once NXT transactions start to pop it will definitely be impossible.

IMHO you've just made a bolder claim than I did.

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And of course a light client ALWAYS has to trust the node operator.  This is the case whether or not you use either SSL or TOR (or not use either/both of them).  So just take this argument away.

Why is that?

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Like I said before, depending on tor for a home user is just not feasable.  

Have you read that it took just 2 hours to implement support for Tor in my client and all that the end user has to do is ticking a checkbox? Why is this not feasable?

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I find it extremely hard to believe that you see the SSL correlation such a risk yet completely ignore TOR correlation that is possible unless, like I said previously, the user takes EXTREME steps, nearing on the impossible.  Without these drastic extreme steps, eventually tor is correlated.  It just takes time.

The SSL correlation is not my main problem with SSL.

My main problem is that the way I would attack privacy and security of NTX is like this:

1.) Set up and run lots of NRS nodes.
2.) Protect it by SSL and make sure I myself stay anonymous.
3.) Encourage NXT user to use the nodes under my management, because they are more secure than others due to SSL.
4.) I'd end up with a substantial amount of the NXT client<->NRS communication under my control.

No, this is not an accusation that this is what you are trying to do. I'm personally very grateful for what you do for NXT.

However, I would like to prevent that the general perception is that SSL has a real security/privacy benefit for client<->NRS communication.

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But whatever, just ignore the dev.  Hint, you might want to do a little research about tor correlation, before you depend on it yourself though.  In fact, unless you go do your research on it, Im going to assume that not only do you not care about it for yourself, but you also dont care about it for others.  IMO this is not exactly the way things should be done, but, oh well, you guys in the committee are supposed to be the experts, after all.

  • You are not being ignored. You previously failed to follow-up on InfCom comments and questions. If you had answered my last post in the InfCom thread regarding the SSL for the Wiki with just "but what about the username/password" pairs, which I previously missed, you'd had me in your boat within 5 seconds.
  • You seem to have the idea that InfCom consists of five infrastructure gods/super-heros. This is not the case. We are as good and qualified as everyone else. This is why we ask you to make your case. And this also means that we are not above you or anyone else in the NXT community, so there is really no reason to play the "but whatever, just ignore the dev/average user/small investor/whatever" card.
  • Regarding me not caring, I'll keep my mouth shut on this. Just note please, that committees are not there to run NXT and decide for the NXT community. It's the job of everyone, so if you think Tor stinks, please do the research yourself and make your case. The issue I've created for it is here: https://bitbucket.org/nxtinfrastructure/committee/issue/33/tor-enabled-capable-nxt-clients  It needs feedback.

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For the user who was asking about wildcard SSL (I think it was xyzzyx) the cost to do it anonymosly is fairly high, almost 500 euro.  So unless someone knows that rapidssl/comodo/someoneElse will allow purchase with either anonymous or with known-to-be-not-real ID (startssl is very strict about real names, address, TN, etc) then thats the way to go.

Wouldn't it be possible to let someone like rickyjames make the order for the (non-anonymous) SSL certificate?

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March 24, 2014, 07:26:06 AM
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My bitbucket account was been hacked, all my project files are gone... I still have eclipse backups though Smiley.

Someone is trying to hurt NXT...

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March 24, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
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First morning since months that there are no more posts made (on btt) during the night to comment on.
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March 24, 2014, 07:36:41 AM
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In before 2500!
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March 24, 2014, 07:38:32 AM
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In before 2500!
Cheesy

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March 24, 2014, 07:39:50 AM
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Anyway, what should I do if I detect a collision of identical GUIDs?

U should publish that u found a collision in SHA256.
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March 24, 2014, 08:48:30 AM
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It is eerie in here now...



ECHO                   echo...               echo...                 echo...               echo...  Grin


Can someone post the Genesis Account number and accurate password for me please?


P.S. I'll switch to the other forum in the next 9-12 hours. Can someone repost this there, if they think it is worth it.
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March 24, 2014, 08:49:46 AM
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no buy support at all.

today is a good day to dump the rest of it.
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March 24, 2014, 08:55:40 AM
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It is eerie in here now...



ECHO                   echo...               echo...                 echo...               echo...  Grin


Can someone post the Genesis Account number and accurate password for me please?


P.S. I'll switch to the other forum in the next 9-12 hours. Can someone repost this there, if they think it is worth it.


Account: 1739068987193023818
Passphrase:
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March 24, 2014, 08:57:34 AM
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prepare for the mother of all dumps, 0,00004 is feasible
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March 24, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
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Thanks LiQio.

Emule, you know you are a big part of Nxt and we all love you but you don't have any Nxts. It has been shown time and time again. Why are you still here.

And you used to be more imaginative, remember all the lies you used to tell about the progress being made?? Can you do one of those for old times sake?
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March 24, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
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no buy support at all.

today is a good day to dump the rest of it.

Agree. Gimme ur Nxt account and I'll send u some to dump.
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March 24, 2014, 09:07:33 AM
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only me and comfb here...

or maybe i am cfb.... i need a shrink Huh
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March 24, 2014, 09:14:44 AM
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Thanks LiQio.

Emule, you know you are a big part of Nxt and we all love you but you don't have any Nxts. It has been shown time and time again. Why are you still here.

And you used to be more imaginative, remember all the lies you used to tell about the progress being made?? Can you do one of those for old times sake?


ok i will prove i have nxt i will fill orders 0.00006904 on bter
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March 24, 2014, 09:15:57 AM
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You mean the whole 2626 NTX, you alone? Shocked Shocked Shocked
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