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Well, I am lucky that my brain is quantum compatible.
What about yours?
After I started working on Nxt my IQ went from 68 to 83. I hope this will be enough. I assume those numbers are hexadecimals...  Whenever anyone observes your IQ then their act of observation will be altering it... Is that a good thing  |
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salsacz
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March 21, 2014, 10:14:08 PM |
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why wasn't this here? It is so cool of him  Selling all my (a bit less than 90 dont know the exact number but I will count it if you want to buy all) bitcointalk account all invested during nem IPO:
Altough I invested during the whole IPO period, all accounts invested different ammount of btc or nxt, I'm selling every one
account for 0.25 bitcoin / acc, no matter how much did I invest with that acc address, 0.008 or 0.075, all acc have the same price.
For those who want to buy all, im selling for 0.15 bitcoin / acc.
I know some other big nem sockpuppet stakeholders some with 1-5 and some with more than 20 acc, but im think I one of the biggest, 90 is a nice stake if you see the total is about 3k only.
The accounts were all signed up with different IP address, I used my Ukrainen VPN provider with Ukrainein IPs, so there are no 2 account where I logged with the same IP, every one have a different unique, I did this because afraid the bitcointalk admins can bann my accounts if they see many new created with the same IP, so all accounts are bann free.
There is no connection between the accounts and not in their addresses, I withdraw all the invested moneys from several exchanges to unique address, so even you can't find connection with taint analysis, maybe just find a common exchange address, but nothing more direct connection.
All acc have fake email, I dont have access to them, after you buy it you can change with the password, if you want to buy only a few acc I will give the username and password details via pm, if you want to buy all I uploading a text file.
With the 0.15 BTC price for the 90 acc, dont know how much one acc will get, but maybe calculate with 1 million nem in each.
So all with this price is 13.5 bitcoin, and you will have 90 million nem.
This will price 1 nem to 0.00000015 bitcoin or 0.00009$ (if you see 600$ / btc) this is a fair price for a new starting coin.
The last stakeholders paid 0.075 bitcoin, the higher price / acc is because now the IPO is closed, so the only way to buy nem stake before it launches is by buying accounts from who joined to the IPO, and almost nobody selling it.
For the haters: Yes I made sockpuppet accounts, but all of you reading this thread had the same opportunity to make more accounts, if you didnt than it means I took more risk than you, I invested a lot of time (1 week / constant 6-10 hours a day) and money to this IPO, and the OP post at the time the IPO started said if somebody invest that much time then he deserves it because believing in this coin.
Im living in Ukraine, so for personal reasons i need some fiat money instead of nothing now but I keep 5 or 10 btctalk nem accounts, because still thinking this coin have a future.
Write a PM to me!
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mcjavar
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March 21, 2014, 10:14:51 PM |
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Hmmm, Cryptsy is at it again... Deposited 7500 NXT, 22 hours ago and it is still not added to my balance. It arrived, minutes after sending, at the correct address. After some e-mails back and forth this was their final response: ------ Thank you for providing the information needed. NXT deposits and withdraws are delayed. NXT is a new coin that we have introduced. There will be some delays as our technical team along with the developers of this coin are working hard to make this new coin run smoothly. Please bear with us as we work to improve your trading experience. Thank you for your patience and understanding. ------  You mean Craptsy  They suck big time!! I got the same message when I had some issues with them. They solved it within 24 hours, so only patience will help you in this case. |
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ChuckOne
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March 21, 2014, 10:17:48 PM |
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Haven't given up yet. Is there a reason this wouldn't reliably get random numbers into a decentralized network?
3 forgers at once, first 3 from the list of next forgers in line to forge.
A picks a random number, signs it, and sends to B
B picks random number, signs it, and sends to C
C picks random number, signs it, and sends to A
Who decides who are A, B and C? Hint: you do not know if an account will forge even when it is due to do. Thanks for sharing. |
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salsacz
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March 21, 2014, 10:26:52 PM |
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ethereum - for example here: http://bitcoinexpo.ca/ they have 3 speakers, that would be fine, but they are also Platinum sponsors - they paid $35,000 for sponsoring this one small event.. |
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igmaca
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March 21, 2014, 10:27:04 PM
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Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.
You cannot fight with knives against tanks.
hum, with AT we will have weapon for fight against ethereum. We cannot ''underestimate'' them power for attract people. i see 3 weeks ago a lot of young people really happy to mine ether in their testnet. They have a really good public relation and ''show them face to public'' .So public can associate ''real human'' with this project. Maybe we need to do ''our coming out'' and go out our confort zone. All nxt group of java developper stay in shadow (me too also), this is only reflexion : can we stay like this . Ether is now your main competitor. The ethereum guys are VERY effective at appealing to peoples emotions. Watch the high production videos and the way they present themselves. They are able to speak very fervently during presentations. That is currently their strength that Nxt lacks. There would also actus be analyzed . actus open source smart contracts. This software Ethereum is based The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation awarded Stevens Institute of Technology a grant to work on the proposal entitled "Creating a standard language for financial contracts and a contract-centric analytical framework". The standard follows the theoretical groundwork laid down in the book "Unified Financial Analysis" (1) - UFA.The goal of this project is to build a financial instrument reference database that represents virtually all financial contracts as algorithms that link changes in risk factors (market risk, credit risk, and behavior, etc.) to cash flow obligations of financial contracts. This reference database will be the technological core of a future open source community that will maintain and evolve standardized financial contract representations for the use of regulators, risk managers, and researchers. The objective of the project is to develop a set of about 30 unique contract types (CT’s) that represent virtually all existing financial contracts and which generate state contingent cash flows at a high level of precision. The term of art that describes the impact of changes in the risk factors on the cash flow obligations of a financial contract is called “state contingent cash flows,” which are the key input to virtually all financial analysis including models that assess financial risk. http://www.projectactus.org/ |
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NxtMinnow
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March 21, 2014, 10:31:38 PM |
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Nxt Automated Transactions, once developed, will provide the same "Turing complete" functionality described by the Ethereum group. Nxt is currently developing AT just as Ethereum is in process of developing their "Turing complete" capability.
Ethereum has not released their currency or their main net. This presents a very large financial risk for Ethereum to attempt to implement contracts in the blockchain.
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TwinWinNerD
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March 21, 2014, 10:36:28 PM |
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I am no programmer! But how about something like this:
Each forger determines who will forge the 10th next block. When creating the block he takes the data from the previous block to create a hash. From this hash he also determines the 10th next block forger. To make this strategy not predictable, we will have to implement a random variable that can't be predicted. Any ideas for this?
So now lets say we are on block 1000 and Forger A is the creating this block. He determines that B will forge block 1010. Now we know block 1001,1002,1003,1004,1005,1006,1007,1008,1009 and 1010 but we can't predict 1011. Only once Block 1001 is forged we will know that.
Is that idea retarded?
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NxtMinnow
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March 21, 2014, 10:39:09 PM |
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Coinsumm.it Public Relations would like to know who I would like to interview. What does the Nxt community think? Should I interview Vitalik Buterin or Anthony Di Iorio of Ethereum or should I interview Kashmir Hill of Forbes or Shakil Khan of CoinDesk?
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mcjavar
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March 21, 2014, 10:39:12 PM |
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Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.
You cannot fight with knives against tanks.
hum, with AT we will have weapon for fight against ethereum. We cannot ''underestimate'' them power for attract people. i see 3 weeks ago a lot of young people really happy to mine ether in their testnet. They have a really good public relation and ''show them face to public'' .So public can associate ''real human'' with this project. Maybe we need to do ''our coming out'' and go out our confort zone. All nxt group of java developper stay in shadow (me too also), this is only reflexion : can we stay like this . Ether is now your main competitor. The ethereum guys are VERY effective at appealing to peoples emotions. Watch the high production videos and the way they present themselves. They are able to speak very fervently during presentations. That is currently their strength that Nxt lacks. There would also actus be analyzed . actus open source smart contracts. This software Ethereum is based The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation awarded Stevens Institute of Technology a grant to work on the proposal entitled "Creating a standard language for financial contracts and a contract-centric analytical framework". The standard follows the theoretical groundwork laid down in the book "Unified Financial Analysis" (1) - UFA.The goal of this project is to build a financial instrument reference database that represents virtually all financial contracts as algorithms that link changes in risk factors (market risk, credit risk, and behavior, etc.) to cash flow obligations of financial contracts. This reference database will be the technological core of a future open source community that will maintain and evolve standardized financial contract representations for the use of regulators, risk managers, and researchers. The objective of the project is to develop a set of about 30 unique contract types (CT’s) that represent virtually all existing financial contracts and which generate state contingent cash flows at a high level of precision. The term of art that describes the impact of changes in the risk factors on the cash flow obligations of a financial contract is called “state contingent cash flows,” which are the key input to virtually all financial analysis including models that assess financial risk. We need guys in the marketing of Nxt who are native english speakers. I really appreciate the work of salsacz, but in some of his writinigs he uses phrases that can be misinterpreted or that are simply not appropriate. We also need speakers for Nxt. Speakers with technical background who are able to represent Nxt in videos, interviews, people like rickyjames and Anon. But more of them, and also ones who are ready to travel to conferences. I am in talks with the Vienna Bitcoin Conference guys, they already offered me to talk about Nxt, which is great, but I won´t be able to tell them more about it, than how cool it´s features are, because I have no clue about the cryptographical, mathematical or coding aspects. So here, for example, I would need someone to get with me on the stage and take over where it is getting more techy. |
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March 21, 2014, 10:40:26 PM |
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Great! Great work. One word about more code in common: run for it. I think JL is open for that. About the non-uniqueness of assets. Well, nice idea of having a branding via an alias, but I still do not like it. It is just a feeling. Maybe, somebody could give me a good feeling of non-unique asset names. As others have mentioned, the "original" asset name may not be the "real" asset, so the original name has no real meaning. Also, it solves the issue of different issuers selling the same product. Because their alias is unique, no one can fake their brand. Pandaisftw |
NXT: 13095091276527367030
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mcjavar
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March 21, 2014, 10:41:00 PM |
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Coinsumm.it Public Relations would like to know who I would like to interview. What does the Nxt community think? Should I interview Vitalik Buterin or Anthony Di Iorio of Ethereum or should I interview Kashmir Hill of Forbes or Shakil Khan of CoinDesk?
I don´t really get it. You will make an interview with one of the guys, or you will attend an interview with one of them as a counterparty? |
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joefox
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March 21, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
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ethereum - for example here: http://bitcoinexpo.ca/ they have 3 speakers, that would be fine, but they are also Platinum sponsors - they paid $35,000 for sponsoring this one small event.. You forget to mention that Anthony Di Iorio -- the man who is helping to co-ordinate Bitcoin Expo -- is an Ethereum co-founder, and also operates the bitcoind space in downtown Toronto where Ethereum's main office is. And you wonder why they don't want Nxt at Bitcoin Expo? <-- EDIT: Removed. Statement is misleading and inappropriate. |
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arafel71
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March 21, 2014, 10:43:53 PM |
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Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.
You cannot fight with knives against tanks.
hum, with AT we will have weapon for fight against ethereum. We cannot ''underestimate'' them power for attract people. i see 3 weeks ago a lot of young people really happy to mine ether in their testnet. They have a really good public relation and ''show them face to public'' .So public can associate ''real human'' with this project. Maybe we need to do ''our coming out'' and go out our confort zone. All nxt group of java developper stay in shadow (me too also), this is only reflexion : can we stay like this . Ether is now your main competitor. The ethereum guys are VERY effective at appealing to peoples emotions. Watch the high production videos and the way they present themselves. They are able to speak very fervently during presentations. That is currently their strength that Nxt lacks. There would also actus be analyzed . actus open source smart contracts. This software Ethereum is based The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation awarded Stevens Institute of Technology a grant to work on the proposal entitled "Creating a standard language for financial contracts and a contract-centric analytical framework". The standard follows the theoretical groundwork laid down in the book "Unified Financial Analysis" (1) - UFA.The goal of this project is to build a financial instrument reference database that represents virtually all financial contracts as algorithms that link changes in risk factors (market risk, credit risk, and behavior, etc.) to cash flow obligations of financial contracts. This reference database will be the technological core of a future open source community that will maintain and evolve standardized financial contract representations for the use of regulators, risk managers, and researchers. The objective of the project is to develop a set of about 30 unique contract types (CT’s) that represent virtually all existing financial contracts and which generate state contingent cash flows at a high level of precision. The term of art that describes the impact of changes in the risk factors on the cash flow obligations of a financial contract is called “state contingent cash flows,” which are the key input to virtually all financial analysis including models that assess financial risk. http://www.projectactus.org/thanks for this message, i will check it, |
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joefox
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March 21, 2014, 10:44:08 PM |
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Coinsumm.it Public Relations would like to know who I would like to interview. What does the Nxt community think? Should I interview Vitalik Buterin or Anthony Di Iorio of Ethereum or should I interview Kashmir Hill of Forbes or Shakil Khan of CoinDesk?
If you're interested in tech details, interview Vitalik. If you're interested in Ethereum's philosophy and plans, interview Anthony. |
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mthcl
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March 21, 2014, 10:45:46 PM |
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Haven't given up yet. Is there a reason this wouldn't reliably get random numbers into a decentralized network?
3 forgers at once, first 3 from the list of next forgers in line to forge.
A picks a random number, signs it, and sends to B
B picks random number, signs it, and sends to C
C picks random number, signs it, and sends to A
Who decides who are A, B and C? Hint: you do not know if an account will forge even when it is due to do. I had a similar idea: the forger is determined in the same way, but then, say, 10 accounts who are "next in the queue" append some random numbers (determined by them) to the new block. Or not the next 10, but, say, those with the weight "close" to the winning one. If this is doable, then the "bad guy" needs to control really a lot of top accounts, because even 1 account not under his control and which is allowed to insert the number, will completely mix up the things. |
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NxtMinnow
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March 21, 2014, 10:46:13 PM |
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Source? This is news to me, but I am not surprised. ethereum - for example here: http://bitcoinexpo.ca/ they have 3 speakers, that would be fine, but they are also Platinum sponsors - they paid $35,000 for sponsoring this one small event.. You forget to mention that Anthony Di Iorio -- the man who is helping to co-ordinate Bitcoin Expo -- is an Ethereum co-founder, and also operates the bitcoind space in downtown Toronto where Ethereum's main office is. And you wonder why they don't want Nxt at Bitcoin Expo? Talk about conflict of interest. They have expressed that Nxt is not wanted there? |
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joefox
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March 21, 2014, 10:47:28 PM |
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We need guys in the marketing of Nxt who are native english speakers. I really appreciate the work of salsacz, but in some of his writinigs he uses phrases that can be misinterpreted or that are simply not appropriate.
We also need speakers for Nxt. Speakers with technical background who are able to represent Nxt in videos, interviews, people like rickyjames and Anon. But more of them, and also ones who are ready to travel to conferences.
I am in talks with the Vienna Bitcoin Conference guys, they already offered me to talk about Nxt, which is great, but I won´t be able to tell them more about it, than how cool it´s features are, because I have no clue about the cryptographical, mathematical or coding aspects. So here, for example, I would need someone to get with me on the stage and take over where it is getting more techy.
I can do all of this. On top of my career as a professional actor (and the implied comfort with media work that comes with such employment), I have an engineering degree. I understand Nxt quite well, and have been here since the first week of December. I'm not a computer scientist or a cryptographer, but I know enough to represent Nxt very well. I've decided NOT to head to Bitcoin Expo in Toronto due to its Bitcoin-centric content. But I'm happy to speak to anyone about Nxt. |
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igmaca
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March 21, 2014, 10:51:36 PM |
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they said in an interview at Kaiser report. smart contracts ethereum is based on Actus |
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joefox
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March 21, 2014, 10:53:54 PM |
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ethereum - for example here: http://bitcoinexpo.ca/ they have 3 speakers, that would be fine, but they are also Platinum sponsors - they paid $35,000 for sponsoring this one small event.. You forget to mention that Anthony Di Iorio -- the man who is helping to co-ordinate Bitcoin Expo -- is an Ethereum co-founder, and also operates the bitcoind space in downtown Toronto where Ethereum's main office is. And you wonder why they don't want Nxt at Bitcoin Expo? Talk about conflict of interest. They have expressed that Nxt is not wanted there? It's not a conflict of interest at all, I don't think. Anthony Di Iorio is a very influential and articulate member of the Bitcoin community, and the founder of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada. He is also involved with kryptokit and many other projects in incubation. I'm a fan of his. Bitcoin Expo has not expressly excluded Nxt or any other altcoin. It just appears that the conference is heavily focused on leveraging Bitcoin for community involvement and next-generation applications. The only way we could represent Nxt there would be to become a sponsor -- it's the only way they allow the distribution of ANY material -- and that cost is prohibitive, IMHO. I think we can be more effective in other ways. TL;DR: I don't mean to imply that they're anti-Nxt. I have no evidence that this is the case. |
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