NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Sebastien256]

A part of NXT Block Explorer is not working correctly. I keep getting NXT, but I can't see the transactions. Compare these:

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=7582598942095085392 (good)

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=7582598942095085392 (not so good)

More people with this problem?

I do have this problem.

The 87.230... block explorer was built by nexern, who is also working on some RL projects in addition to his own Nxt client.  I doubt he's had time to keep his block explorer up-to-date OR fix errors with it.

I'm going to take nexern's block explorer off the wiki.

is there another block explorer available?

[Eadeqa]

A part of NXT Block Explorer is not working correctly. I keep getting NXT, but I can't see the transactions. Compare these:

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=7582598942095085392 (good)

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=7582598942095085392 (not so good)

More people with this problem?

I do have this problem.

The 87.230... block explorer was built by nexern, who is also working on some RL projects in addition to his own Nxt client.  I doubt he's had time to keep his block explorer up-to-date OR fix errors with it.

I'm going to take nexern's block explorer off the wiki.

is there another block explorer available?

http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/

[joefox]

http://22k.io/account/

This is nexern's (inaccurate) block explorer.

AFAIK the only good one, at the moment, is http://mynxt.info/blockexplorer

[btler420]

wow crazy the price went up :O

[arafel71]

Organisation in the french community

Avis à toute la communauté francophone de NXT, je lance l'idée d'un comité francophone pour NXT (NXT French comity and fund). Je vous propose de participer au débat et la discussion sur nextcoin.org : https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4492.0.html

Toutes les bonnes volontés et idées sont bienvenues.

For the english speakers : I want to have a discussion with the french speaking community of NXT (France, Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, french Africa, etc.). I propose to make a comity and a NXT fund to :
- have referents people for the french media ;
- help the french speaking project (marketing, stores, economics project, etc.) ;
- communicate the french projects to the world community.

+1

[joefox]

Organisation in the french community

Avis à toute la communauté francophone de NXT, je lance l'idée d'un comité francophone pour NXT (NXT French comity and fund). Je vous propose de participer au débat et la discussion sur nextcoin.org : https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4492.0.html

Toutes les bonnes volontés et idées sont bienvenues.

For the english speakers : I want to have a discussion with the french speaking community of NXT (France, Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, french Africa, etc.). I propose to make a comity and a NXT fund to :
- have referents people for the french media ;
- help the french speaking project (marketing, stores, economics project, etc.) ;
- communicate the french projects to the world community.

C'est une idée fantastique!  Vous pouvez également contribuer à encourager les gens à contribuer à la traduction du wiki

[msin]

Hey guys, http://hashrate.org has had a bit of a facelift.
Yesterday we paid out 0.008 BTC/MH/day equivilent in NXT - why mine anywhere else?

Great job on this, I'd really like to see a layman's guide on your page as well, for those that want to mine a little bit;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5820979#msg5820979

[arafel71]

Organisation in the french community

Avis à toute la communauté francophone de NXT, je lance l'idée d'un comité francophone pour NXT (NXT French comity and fund). Je vous propose de participer au débat et la discussion sur nextcoin.org : https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4492.0.html

Toutes les bonnes volontés et idées sont bienvenues.

For the english speakers : I want to have a discussion with the french speaking community of NXT (France, Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, french Africa, etc.). I propose to make a comity and a NXT fund to :
- have referents people for the french media ;
- help the french speaking project (marketing, stores, economics project, etc.) ;
- communicate the french projects to the world community.

C'est une idée fantastique!  Vous pouvez également contribuer à encourager les gens à contribuer à la traduction du wiki

nous allons devoir organiser des meetups, nous sommes en guerre contre ethereum

we need to organize meetup, we are in war with ethereum

[bitcoinpaul]

Croissant!

[mczarnek]

Ok, not this. But maybe there are other parameters of the network that change rapidly and that no one can effectively control (number of forging nodes, ..., whatever)?

Network topology, but we r already going to use it.

Which fixes the issue right?

I can only affect the current block in an attempt to affect who will forge 1440 blocks from now, right?

If you are worried about network topology being manipulated, how about this, every block the top 10 forgers or for that matter anyone who wants to can send random numbers to those top forgers, the current forgers don't reveal that number to the rest of the network until the end of the next block, when it's too late to submit your own random number to influence this right?

Use 3 forgers, every other person submitting random numbers only sends those numbers to 2 out of 3 forgers, who don't share these numbers with each other until after this block is over, so not a single machine can manipulate these random numbers.  Only include random numbers that were received by at least 2 forgers, right?

I'd prefer to avoid proof of work after all on thing we have going for us is we are known for being a purely proof of stake coin

[salsacz]

Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.

You cannot fight with knives against tanks.

[mcjavar]

Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.

You cannot fight with knives against tanks.

You can, but it will be a pretty short fight.

Did you get my emails?

[Anon136]

network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

[wesleyh]

Hey, new version at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

Basically, I changed asset issuance;

See this screen below, you'll see there are a bunch of extra settings. The most important of which is the suffix.

Now that the asset exchange allows non-unique names you'll see duplicate listings. I don't like this. Now, in the future I will show as XYZ.001, XYZ.002 etc (it doesn't yet now for technical reasons), but even that is not a good solution. We need some kind of branding.

That's why I added a suffix field. This field should be set to an alias you control.

This allows you to brand your asset. For example, if you sell gold, instead of it being displayed like "gold.012" you can display as "gold.yourname".

The prefix (gold) is not unique, the suffix is (since it's an alias which is already unique).



There are a few other fields also like tags but I don't really use these now. I added this because CFB is also adding tagging capability to his digital goods store. However, he is doing it server side, I'm doing it client side. I don't like that. I would like for both api's (asset exchange and DGS) to have as much in common as possible). I'm only adding tagging here as a proof of concept at the moment.

Anyway, this is how an asset with a suffix looks like in the sidebar:



This too I would like to see integrated on the server side, as an extra field in the assets table. Why? Because right now I have to do double the requests; I have to first fetch the asset, if it has an alias assigned to it, fetch the alias and check to see if it belongs to the asset issuer (if not it is not displayed). So this is not as efficient, and since it's a field that can never change, it doesn't make sense not to integrate it in to the asset exchange table.

Of course, only if you guys (the community) like this feature.

Please let me know your feedback on this. I think it solves all the issues; we have a non-unique prefix and a brandable, unique suffix.

Thanks to pandaisftw and jl777 for the ideas.

Test this, and let me know if you find any bugs or have suggestions.

Donations appreciated at 8189784314684138350

[ChuckOne]

network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

And now again, please. For ChuckOne and all of those with lesser English skills.

[Anon136]

if anyone has any proposals that they would like to submit for review by the techdev committee than send them my way and i will add them to our public repo on bitbucket

[Anon136]

network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

And now again, please. For ChuckOne and all of those with lesser English skills.

ok so the idea is that if we could measure and define the qualities of the network topography in a way that all observers could agree on than we would have never needed sotoshis invention. that is PRECISELY the problem that satoshi solved with proof of work and blockchain. if we could have measured the network topography in an objectively valid way than it would have always been immediately obvious to everyone involved if someone ever tried to do a doublespend.

[ChuckOne]

Hey, new version at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

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Great work.

One word about more code in common: run for it. I think JL is open for that.

About the non-uniqueness of assets. Well, nice idea of having a branding via an alias, but I still do not like it. It is just a feeling.

Maybe, somebody could give me a good feeling of non-unique asset names.

[wesleyh]

Hey, new version at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

[...]

Great work.

One word about more code in common: run for it. I think JL is open for that.

About the non-uniqueness of assets. Well, nice idea of having a branding via an alias, but I still do not like it. It is just a feeling.

Maybe, somebody could give me a good feeling of non-unique asset names.

Non-unique asset names are already here. JL added the code. I'm only trying to salvage what's salvageable. Do you like gold.034 and gold.381 better?

Regarding the code, cfb would have to do that. JL doesn't have the time, and I don't know enough java (yet).

[ChuckOne]

Non-unique asset names are already here. JL added the code. I'm only trying to salvage what's salvageable. Do you like gold.034 and gold.381 better?

Regarding the code, cfb would have to do that. JL doesn't have the time, and I don't know enough java (yet).

Yes, I know. I quoted the commit.

Your example is good. That is what my bad feeling is about. Who's going to trade that? What is the 'real' gold asset? Names are important to people.