NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[DrearyUrbanite]

wow crazy the price went up :O

The market has a way of sensing that I am about to get some BTC and make a NXT purchase. It almost always happens.

[wesleyh]

Non-unique asset names are already here. JL added the code. I'm only trying to salvage what's salvageable. Do you like gold.034 and gold.381 better?

Regarding the code, cfb would have to do that. JL doesn't have the time, and I don't know enough java (yet).

Yes, I know. I quoted the commit.

Your example is good. That is what my bad feeling is about. Who's going to trade that? What is the 'real' gold asset? Names are important to people.

Well, is the real gold the guy that buys the asset name first? Nope, not the best solution either.

[ChuckOne]

ok so the idea is that if we could measure and define the qualities of the network topography in a way that all observers could agree on than we would have never needed sotoshis invention. that is PRECISELY the problem that satoshi solved with proof of work and blockchain. if we could have measured the network topography in an objectively valid way than it would have always been immediately obvious to everyone involved if someone ever tried to do a doublespend.

Ah, yeah. I am halfway trough.

So, now what? What is your conclusion?

[arafel71]

Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.

You cannot fight with knives against tanks.

hum, with AT we will have weapon for fight against ethereum. We cannot ''underestimate'' them power for attract people. i see 3 weeks ago a lot of young people really happy to mine ether in their testnet.  They have a really good public relation and ''show them face to public'' .So public can associate ''real human'' with this project.  Maybe we need to do ''our coming out'' and go out our confort zone. All nxt group of java developper stay in shadow (me too also), this is only reflexion : can we stay like this .  Ether is now your main competitor.

[TwinWinNerD]

Hey guys, just found out that there is a #nxt channel.

Come and join, we really do need a NXT trollbox!

For newbz:

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=nxtalk

Thx weasleyh

[jztxeno]

hasrate.org vs nxtp00l.org ?

[wesleyh]

Hey guys, just found out that there is a #nxt channel.

Come and join, we really do need a NXT trollbox!

For newbz:

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=nxt

It's actually #nxtalk

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=nxtalk

[salsacz]

Guerre? je ne suis pas d'accord.

You cannot fight with knives against tanks.

hum, with AT we will have weapon for fight against ethereum. We cannot ''underestimate'' them power for attract people. i see 3 weeks ago a lot of young people really happy to mine ether in their testnet.  They have a really good public relation and ''show them face to public'' .So public can associate ''real human'' with this project.  Maybe we need to do ''our coming out'' and go out our confort zone. All nxt group of java developper stay in shadow (me too also), this is only reflexion : can we stay like this .  Ether is now your main competitor.

But we need more than AT/E, we need a "lego" for creating decentralized apps and a button for creating new cryptocoins - on top of nxt

[TwinWinNerD]

I got some time on my hands, so:

What should I change/add/remove in the reddit sidebar?
http://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/

Thanks for the feedback!

[Anon136]

ok so the idea is that if we could measure and define the qualities of the network topography in a way that all observers could agree on than we would have never needed sotoshis invention. that is PRECISELY the problem that satoshi solved with proof of work and blockchain. if we could have measured the network topography in an objectively valid way than it would have always been immediately obvious to everyone involved if someone ever tried to do a doublespend.

Ah, yeah. I am halfway trough.

So, now what? What is your conclusion?

Well its a tough problem. if there was a way to say exclude someone from the blockchain who failed to announce his intention to mint a block than it would be easier. that's the first problem that needs to be solved.

*edit* cfb do you know how to do this?

[ChuckOne]

Well, is the real gold the guy that buys the asset name first? Nope, not the best solution either.

Of course not, because we have a strong association of what gold is.

But there might be a virtual asset 'Tawo' in the future. The first to issue that might also be its inventor.

[chanc3r]

hasrate.org vs nxtp00l.org ?

Dunno... I got my first payout of 415 NXT from nxtp00l

[DrearyUrbanite]

hasrate.org vs nxtp00l.org ?

Too early to tell. I am mining both for now since having two is better than one.

[Eadeqa]

Non-unique asset names are already here. JL added the code. I'm only trying to salvage what's salvageable. Do you like gold.034 and gold.381 better?

Regarding the code, cfb would have to do that. JL doesn't have the time, and I don't know enough java (yet).

Yes, I know. I quoted the commit.

Your example is good. That is what my bad feeling is about. Who's going to trade that? What is the 'real' gold asset? Names are important to people.

Well, is the real gold the guy that buys the asset name first? Nope, not the best solution either.

With unique assert names, what if the scammer issues gold asset first? Now he owns that asset name forever.  What about other people who want to sell gold if the name is unique?

[ChuckOne]

Well its a tough problem. if there was a way to say exclude someone from the blockchain who failed to announce his intention to mint a block than it would be easier. that's the first problem that needs to be solved.

*edit* cfb do you know how to do this?

Do you mean, there is a ambiguity in the interpretation of nothing?

Does no block from account A mean: A did not forge.
Or
Does no block from account A mean: A did forge but is late.
Or
Does no block from account A mean: A did forge privately.

[achimsmile]

Do you like gold.034 and gold.381 better?

You should buy my gold.goldgold 

I think it's a great idea to tie a unique alias to the asset!

[Come-from-Beyond]

Well its a tough problem. if there was a way to say exclude someone from the blockchain who failed to announce his intention to mint a block than it would be easier. that's the first problem that needs to be solved.

*edit* cfb do you know how to do this?

Why do u think that an average programmer could know this? This is a conceptual issue.

[ChuckOne]

Could somebody of them pleeease fix their nodes? -.-

Code:

[2014-03-20 19:23:54.605] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:54.720] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:55.145] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:55.251] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:55.448] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:55.602] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:55.755] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:23:56.016] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.442] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.452] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.472] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.473] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.485] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.488] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.492] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:01.510] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.684] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.702] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.726] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.737] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.747] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.757] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.774] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:06.787] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:11.958] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node8-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:11.965] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: emoneyru3-nxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:11.983] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:11.989] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:11.993] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 01-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:12.005] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 03-nxtcloud.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:12.010] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 19:24:12.024] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: node6-mynxtcoin.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 21:20:50.247] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 21:32:29.738] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 21:47:13.529] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 21:55:26.216] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 22:02:15.434] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 22:08:51.672] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[2014-03-20 22:18:55.983] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com
[.... 150 times the same ....]
[2014-03-21 21:12:32.292] DEBUG: Invalid peer address: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com:80, java.net.UnknownHostException: 02-emoneyru.rhcloud.com

[Anon136]

Well its a tough problem. if there was a way to say exclude someone from the blockchain who failed to announce his intention to mint a block than it would be easier. that's the first problem that needs to be solved.

*edit* cfb do you know how to do this?

Why do u think that an average programmer could know this? This is a conceptual issue.

erm. well you might know. i dont know what you dont know.

[NxtMinnow]

Anon136 I think you should read this http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/