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February 17, 2014, 07:13:43 AM
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Let's play a game. post a way you can think of that somebody can make money with NXT, using the tech that is currently being developed. The best idea as measured by (estimated revenues divided by estimated costs to implement) will win 500 NXT bounty. If there is no consensus as to what idea has the best revenue/cost ratio, i will flip a coin and pick the one I like the best.

1) Asset kickstarter
- you want to develop a game, you create 1.000.000 asset tokens for share for your game. Your goal is to get $1.000.000, so you sell 1 share for 1$ (=20 Nxt). After the game is completed, you will be able to buy shares back for: downloading a game, purchasing gaming items (better horse, nicer equipment, pet), for materials (book, map, soundtrack) special events, in-game character names... And if anyone wanted to hoard his shares, he would be getting some part of the profit from selling the game

2) known inventions:
Proof of learning coins:
- you are getting coins for watching videos, responding to questionaires, for creating new content so you are getting coins fo number of downloads/views of your pictures (memes), videos (funny), texts (even scientific books), created sites and advertising on them (lakshmi's proof of bandwidth)

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February 17, 2014, 07:22:41 AM
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3) Proof of stake coins for organisations
- anyone could simple created their own currency
- Will be used for: hotels - you buy tokens and buy food, massages, trips, everything by those tokens. After the holidays you will be awarder by free tokens, so you could spend them next time you visit this hotel or this type of hotel (can be used for all hotels under 1 owner)
+ casinos, travel agencies, marketplaces, stores
- those coins could be used as a special salary for all kinds of organisations to avoid paying high taxes

Nxt tips: NXT-R67P-6BZ2-XWAK-8RHZR | Nxt forum | Nxt Academy | Donate for Nxt at the Universities // BTCD: RVMLrnxYYy7uy8YZo9FcGfXbk1ZMnNifdg
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February 17, 2014, 07:35:21 AM
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Gosh huge buy order on Bter http://bter.com/trade/nxt_btc 317,000 at 9,110
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February 17, 2014, 07:35:31 AM
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I am following BCNext's plan! He is clearly much smarter than me, who am I to second guess his recommendations.
In any case it makes a lot of sense to me that NXT itself should be as close to free to use as possible. Think how much it costs to use the Internet, or normal cash. If using the internet had a per minute fee (like Compuserve did), it would never have become what it is. Most people dont seem to under stand this. Elasticity of price demand, eg. lower cost -> more volumes.

I suggest that everybody just IGNORE any amount that comes in from forging. If it comes in, great, if not, dont worry. NXT is about building an economy.

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Maybe it is more than just that.
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February 17, 2014, 07:39:22 AM
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Looks like nextcoin.org should be totally avoided. Too many "bans" and "block".

I won't use  nextcoin.org.
- me too. Lets leave nextcoin.org to such people like Drexme and the owners of DGex...  We have nxtcrypto.org !

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February 17, 2014, 07:46:24 AM
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3) Proof of stake coins for organisations
- anyone could simple created their own currency
- Will be used for: hotels - you buy tokens and buy food, massages, trips, everything by those tokens. After the holidays you will be awarder by free tokens, so you could spend them next time you visit this hotel or this type of hotel (can be used for all hotels under 1 owner)
+ casinos, travel agencies, marketplaces, stores
- those coins could be used as a special salary for all kinds of organisations to avoid paying high taxes

nice!
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February 17, 2014, 07:46:45 AM
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Here are the last pieces of the video interview that my buddy Leon Fu and I did with Anon136 about nxt:

What Is The Difference Between The Bitcoin (BTC) Blockchain Vs. The Nextcoin (NXT) Blockchain?

http://prisonorfreedom.com/what-is-the-difference-between-the-bitcoin-btc-blockchain-vs-the-nextcoin-nxt-blockchain/

Why Were Security Flaws Purposely Put Into The Nextcoin (NXT)'s Source Code By It's Developers?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/why-were-security-flaws-purposely-put-into-the-nextcoin-nxts-source-code-by-its-developers/

Who Are The Key Players & Programmers Of The Nextcoin (NXT) Source Code?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/who-are-the-key-players-programmers-of-the-nextcoin-nxt-source-code/

Should Investors Be Worried About Nextcoin (NXT)'S Price Volatility?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/should-investors-be-worried-about-nextcoin-nxts-price-volatility/

I hope these videos with Anon136 will help to educate new adopters and investors of Nxt.

Tai Zen
Can you add subtitles in future for non english speaking people?
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February 17, 2014, 07:52:59 AM
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@Salsa: I also suggested 1) earlier (also see a few posts back), but through a slightly different way, using different tokens to represent different "tiers".

Both our ways have problems individually. My way, (one asset type for each tier) if there are many tiers, the person seeking investments must issue many asset tokens, and will be impractical if there are too many options to choose from. Your way (one asset type for all options) makes it easy for investors to choose what options they want, but hard for the person seeking investments to prepare for all the different options (for in-game purchases it's easy, coz programmers can just code it in. But for real world stuff, it may have to be first come, first serve.)

But fund seekers could combine our ways: have one asset type for each option. Just use your general asset token for the easy-to-make stuff, and use different tokens for things that need to be prepared in advance like e.g. cloth maps. So maybe one guy can have 1 Base Game token, 1 Cloth Map, 1 Special Figurine, another guy can have 4 Base Game token, 3 Month-long Subscription tokens, 1000 In-Game Currency tokens.


I like 3), especially if it means the same "point tokens" can be used for different places, not just those owned by the same owner. Like, I totally don't bother with point cards right now because there are too many to keep track of.

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February 17, 2014, 08:00:13 AM
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Looks like nextcoin.org should be totally avoided. Too many "bans" and "block".

I won't use  nextcoin.org.
- me too. Lets leave nextcoin.org to such people like Drexme and the owners of DGex...  We have nxtcoin.org !
Looks like the trolls are at it again attempting pathetic conversions!

Nextcoin uses banning or thread blocks very rarely.

I personally have not banned anyone for months. I have given friendly advice within discussions a few times. So not sure where the "bullying" image was hinted to, other than lunatics spreading propaganda and bashing me over here according to their incoherent whims and complexes of inferiority - and the need for perceived authority figure against which to target their rebellion arising from immature self image. The banning policy is completely reasonable and I'm happy the current moderators are sticking to it. Nextcoin.org does not tolerate:

- offenses against staff
- threats of physical violence
- foul language
- other degenerating behaviour & mind tricks

It's impressive to see how well nextcoin.org has been handling the member base of nearly 5k mixed background folks. Such a bunch necessarily contains borderline nutcases and native troublemakers the resorts to deal with successfully are unfortunately few. By active moderation nextcoin.org is able to keep the level of discussion considerably higher and more focused than for instance the cluttered and depressingly incoherent thread of bitcointalk.org. I encourage visitors to nextcoin.org see this for themselves, ignore the sinister agenda that has lifted its head again and concentrate into constructive discussion where that's most effectively possible.


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February 17, 2014, 08:10:35 AM
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Quote me so that I have to honour my word...

IF NXT does not go to AT LEAST $10... I am DONE with crypto... I mean BYE BYE crypto type of DONE... going to apply for a job at a Central Bank type of DONE... jacking off to Fed Chairman speech on C-SPAN type of DONE... enjoy the days when coinmarketcap's list gets smaller and smaller until even Bitcoin is removed type of DONE...

You'll look sharp in a suit.

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February 17, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
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address :8026612693734218048

need testnet coin..


Sent 1K TestNxt Wink .
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February 17, 2014, 08:12:56 AM
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I used to enjoy visiting coinmarketcap.com... but...  what an ARCADE all these coins have become?!?!?     Undecided

Clone/Shit-coins keep coming out and start trading at $5... while NXT is still $0.06!?!?!     Huh


Quote me so that I have to honour my word...

IF NXT does not go to AT LEAST $10... I am DONE with crypto... I mean BYE BYE crypto type of DONE... going to apply for a job at a Central Bank type of DONE... jacking off to Fed Chairman speech on C-SPAN type of DONE... enjoy the days when coinmarketcap's list gets smaller and smaller until even Bitcoin is removed type of DONE...


Ahhhhh... hope you guys felt as good reading this as I did typing it!!!    Wink


Edit:  I know we should not be paying attention to price of NXT in fiat... but that is NOT the point of my post.



If I make a altcoin clone named "SingleCoin" where there is only 1 coin then it wouldn't be hard to make it worth a lot.
You have to look at the marketcap, not price per *Coin
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February 17, 2014, 08:14:53 AM
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Looks like nextcoin.org should be totally avoided. Too many "bans" and "block".

I won't use  nextcoin.org.
- me too. Lets leave nextcoin.org to such people like Drexme and the owners of DGex...  We have nxtcoin.org !

As a moderator who get no pay of any kind, nor do I hold any stake in either nextcoin or DGEX, I find this offensive and uninformed.
We over at nextcoin have done A LOT for NXT. It's the biggest NXT site with more than 4500 NXTers.

We barely ban anyone there
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February 17, 2014, 08:22:34 AM
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February 17, 2014, 08:24:27 AM
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It's impressive to see how well nextcoin.org has been handling the member base of nearly 5k mixed background folks. Such a bunch necessarily contains borderline nutcases and native troublemakers the resorts to deal with successfully are unfortunately few. By active moderation nextcoin.org is able to keep the level of discussion considerably higher and more focused than for instance the cluttered and depressingly incoherent thread of bitcointalk.org. I encourage visitors to nextcoin.org see this for themselves, ignore the sinister agenda that has lifted its head again and concentrate into constructive discussion where that's most effectively possible.

I agree, nextcoin.org has grown very lively. I haven't kept up with the moderation actions, so I can't say anything about whether speech is being stifled (Trolling and other behaviour of the kind also stifle's other people speech, so protecting against such behaviour is perfectly reasonable. But there are other ways of doing it besides moderation, e.g. ignore list or karma) I don't have any beef with dgex, or any exchange for that matter, since I don't use exchanges.

Personally I don't visit nextcoin.org much because of the lame name. Like, if fark.com didn't suck and had more discussion than reddit.com, I'd still prefer going to reddit.com. How about registering a cooler alternate domain?

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February 17, 2014, 08:35:23 AM
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We over at nextcoin have done A LOT for NXT. It's the biggest NXT site with more than 4500 NXTers.

We barely ban anyone there


... An example of those is that the above propaganda is not true. Peercover thread was not suspended, it was moved to trash folder as my requests ...

Just for the record before I delete the unauthorized advertisement on nextcoin.org ...
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I think that does it for now... thanks nxtgt for visiting our DGEX sponsored forum and good luck for your business!  Wink

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February 17, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
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Personally I don't visit nextcoin.org much because of the lame name.
+1400 !

As BCNext said:
Nxt has such features as ...
# Name doesn't contain "coin" ...

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February 17, 2014, 08:44:34 AM
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Personally I don't visit nextcoin.org much because of the lame name.
+1400 !

As BCNext said:
Nxt has such features as ...
# Name doesn't contain "coin" ...

That's not the problem. It's commercial site associated with dgex

We should use http://www.nxtcrypto.org/


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February 17, 2014, 08:47:09 AM
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Nextcoin.org is not the NXT brand. The domain was decided before clear branding outlines for NXT were formed and serves two major purposes which the name hits point blank:

- discussion of coming cryptocurrencies and projects, "next coins" / cryptos
- discussion of NXT that was originally perceived as "coin" and pronounced  "next".

Nextcoin.org is a brand by itself, walking tightly with NXT, however there is no need to change the domain name despite many suggestions from people who mistakenly perceive it the brand for NXT.

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That's not the problem. It's commercial site associated with dgex

Wrong, it's not "commercial site" although it's indeed associated with DGEX. As you can easily conclude from the popularity distribution, the association with commercial entity with all its resources included is an excellent propellant from which mutual benefits to the community and business follow.

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Personally I don't visit nextcoin.org much because of the lame name.
+1400 !

As BCNext said:
Nxt has such features as ...
# Name doesn't contain "coin" ...
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