NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[jl777]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

[1714125671]

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[1714125671]

1714125671

[1714125671]

1714125671

[wesleyh]

I just checked it , your effectiveBalance is zero.. your "balance" is 2900.. Will have to ask come-from-beyond how this is possible?..

It takes some time: 1440 blocks

http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Nxt_API#Get_Balance

ok, that is for forging, why is effectivebalance used for everything else also?  (in testnet)

You mean for the Asset Exchange and the Voting System?

jefdiesel can't do anything (no messaging, no AE, ..) at the moment because effectiveBalance is zero, but balance is 2000nxt. on the testnet. (yes, where AE is tested).

[xcn]

Hello!
can i have some testNXTs please?
14150851297671723944

[wesleyh]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

getTransaction response includes type / subtype

Code:

	if (transaction.type == 0) {
    								transactionType = "Ordinary payment";
    							} else if (transaction.type == 1) {
    								if (transaction.subtype == 0) {
    									transactionType = "Arbitrary message";
    								} else {
    									transactionType = "Alias assignment";
    								}
    							} else if (transaction.type == 2) {
    								switch (transaction.subtype) {
    									case 0: 
    										transactionType = "Asset issuance";
    										break;
    									case 1: 
    										transactionType = "Asset transfer";
    										break;
    									case 2: 
    										transactionType = "Ask order placement";
    										break;
    									case 3: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order placement";
    										break;
    									case 4:
    										transactionType = "Ask order cancellation";
    										break;
    									case 5: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order cancellation";
    										break;
    								}
    							}

[S3MKi]

what's up guys. give please testNXT 11726704843988639528

[Come-from-Beyond]

What do you think about TaPoS?

@JL
@CfB
Would it be possible to include TaPoS into NXT?

I think nothing, not interested enough to spend time on deep reading.

[martismartis]

[2014-02-17 20:15:55.657] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 2507106602597677499 at h
eight 68774 received from node01.nxtcrypto.de, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 20:16:02.117] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 2507106602597677499 at h
eight 68774 received from node90.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 20:16:06.913] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 2507106602597677499 at h
eight 68774 received from node01.nxtcrypto.de, blacklisting

Block 2507106602597677499 is the correct block to be at that height:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=1000&blk=2507106602597677499

If your node refuses to accept it, this means you are on a fork. Your base target is probably very high too, another indication of being on the wrong fork.

If it doesn't recover by itself, you will need to delete the nxt_db folder and redownload the blockchain.

Okay, strange.

I started 0.7.5 fresh. So no files from a previous installation, downloaded the blockchain from scratch. Also sending and receiving money goes without a problem (I even forged a block yesterday evening).

I will try to redownload the blockchain.

Thanks for answering!

Yes, that's strange. I also get mass of these errors on my public node, but I think I'm sure I am not on the fork, comparing public node blocks info with private nodeblocks and blockchain.

[CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime]

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward.  One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused.  Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?


It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.


http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

[jl777]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

getTransaction response includes type / subtype

Code:

	if (transaction.type == 0) {
    								transactionType = "Ordinary payment";
    							} else if (transaction.type == 1) {
    								if (transaction.subtype == 0) {
    									transactionType = "Arbitrary message";
    								} else {
    									transactionType = "Alias assignment";
    								}
    							} else if (transaction.type == 2) {
    								switch (transaction.subtype) {
    									case 0: 
    										transactionType = "Asset issuance";
    										break;
    									case 1: 
    										transactionType = "Asset transfer";
    										break;
    									case 2: 
    										transactionType = "Ask order placement";
    										break;
    									case 3: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order placement";
    										break;
    									case 4:
    										transactionType = "Ask order cancellation";
    										break;
    									case 5: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order cancellation";
    										break;
    								}
    							}

Thanks, the API wiki doesnt show this, I guess I just have to assume the wiki is not 100% accurate

[opticalcarrier]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

Where can we get a reference on decoding the bytes of a getTransactionBytes API call?  And is there anyway to get the bytes for an entire block?  Id really like to learn more about the bits/bytes of NXT, can someone point me in the right direction as far as decoding the blockchain?

[wesleyh]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

getTransaction response includes type / subtype

Code:

	if (transaction.type == 0) {
    								transactionType = "Ordinary payment";
    							} else if (transaction.type == 1) {
    								if (transaction.subtype == 0) {
    									transactionType = "Arbitrary message";
    								} else {
    									transactionType = "Alias assignment";
    								}
    							} else if (transaction.type == 2) {
    								switch (transaction.subtype) {
    									case 0: 
    										transactionType = "Asset issuance";
    										break;
    									case 1: 
    										transactionType = "Asset transfer";
    										break;
    									case 2: 
    										transactionType = "Ask order placement";
    										break;
    									case 3: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order placement";
    										break;
    									case 4:
    										transactionType = "Ask order cancellation";
    										break;
    									case 5: 
    										transactionType = "Bid order cancellation";
    										break;
    								}
    							}

Thanks, the API wiki doesnt show this, I guess I just have to assume the wiki is not 100% accurate

Indeed, it does not have all info, but you can find info about all constants via http://localhost:7874/nxt?requestType=getConstants

[wesleyh]

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward.  One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused.  Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?


It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.


http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

Doesn't really matter, just do their address. You're going to transfer the funds to them anyway.

[wesleyh]

Test Poll creation:

http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/

Only poll creation at them moment, not yet voting.. (tomorrow).. The results are not ordered by creation date, I guess CFB still needs to add this to the API.

[jl777]

CfB,

Is there a definition of the bytes in a transaction? I am trying to figure out which ones are AM and which ones are not.
I thought maybe doing a getTransaction call would return what type of transaction it is, but it doesnt seem to.

Where can we get a reference on decoding the bytes of a getTransactionBytes API call?  And is there anyway to get the bytes for an entire block?  Id really like to learn more about the bits/bytes of NXT, can someone point me in the right direction as far as decoding the blockchain?

Today is my first day stumbling around with the API, so not sure of any block format

[EvilDave]

*** Need Community Response ***

Now that Songs of Love has our landing page posted (with their wallet), I want to know how you guys want to handle it moving forward.  One valid concern is since Nxt has a wallet address for donations and Songs of Love has their wallet address posted, people might get confused.  Should we:

Continue to only advertise our wallet?
Transfer the funds to their wallet and use that one in PR?


It's not a big deal either way, just want to address the concern posted and have the community tell us how they want to handle it.


http://www.songsoflove.org/nxt/

I think that the best option would be to transfer the balance from Nxts "own" wallet once we have reached the donation target, while using the SoL wallet in most/all of the PR. That way SoL will, even in  the future, still receive donations directly. I don't think that there will be much cross-over between the two groups of donors anyway: people who see the PR will probably not even have NXT, and NXT'ers will already have donated to the NXT wallet. So no real confusion, and it all gets there in the end.

Which brings me to some important questions about where are we heading with charity marketing:
Is SoL going to be the "official" NXT charity?
Are we going to make an ongoing commitment to them, or move on to another good cause after we hit the target?
Are multiple charity projects a good idea?
Does any one have any suggestions for another charity to support?

So many questions from me today.....sorry.

[bitmadaboutcoin]

when i run nxt solaris and add my nxt and try and forge it tells me "failed attempt to forge NRS returned;" do you need nrs running to forge with solaris? if so that makes no sence

[ChuckOne]

What do you think about TaPoS?

@JL
@CfB
Would it be possible to include TaPoS into NXT?

I think nothing, not interested enough to spend time on deep reading.

I see.

To scrap the surface a bit:

1) value is not to have coins but to be able to spend them on exchange for other goods
2) as a consequence, miners should not be selected by their mining power (PoW) nor by their account balance (PoS) but rather by including as many votes possible (TaPoS)
3) votes are units accumulated over time by the amount of the account balance
4) votes are spend when performing a transaction; that is an account consumes votes when performing transactions
5) denial of service not possible because voting power diminished rapidly during DoS

I asked some questions; let's see what he come up with.

[Jean-Luc]

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

[ChuckOne]

[2014-02-17 21:22:23.586] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from node55.nxtbase.com, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:26.391] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 13734259069497850723 at
height 68803 received from miasik.no-ip.org, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:22:50.345] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from nxt.homer.ru, blacklisting
[2014-02-17 21:23:02.295] DEBUG: Failed to accept block 209947979157787352 at he
ight 68804 received from node10.nxtbase.com, blacklisting

I don't understand why it keeps happening to your node, but again those two block ids are from the correct blockchain - at least on the nodes I run.

I am still not sure, who determines what is the correct chain?

[martismartis]

Jean-Luc

Really strange behavior with my public node. I see "DEBUG: Block AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA not accepted. Previous block id doesn't match", while block AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I see exists in public node recent blocks, private node recent blocks and in blockchain. How to understand these errors?

EDIT: Public node for checking http://217.17.88.5:7874/