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[DeltaQuebec]

mmmk. Actually..not mmmk.. how bout you try and contact the dev's , instead of some bullish assinine hostility noncense that is at best a joke with thie april 1st crap. Your boring me, and the miners. ACtually, no I re take back my take back.. keep doing what your doing.

[smcardle]

mmmk. Actually..not mmmk.. how bout you try and contact the dev's , instead of some bullish assinine hostility noncense that is at best a joke with thie april 1st crap. Your boring me, and the miners.

Many of us have tried to do just that to see what is going on or to see how we can help.

There has been no response from them so far.

If you look at my previous posts, and those of many others, you will see that this is in no way a hostile take over.
My preference has ALWAYS been to have the original dev's continue and for the rest of us to stay out of the way.

Unfortunately, the lack of engagement by the dev's over the last few weeks has resulted in a lot of hostility in the Coin(O) community, and that has directly lead to loss of faith, dumping and a huge reduction in network hash.

This is not about a take over, this is about people not wanting to walk away from their current investment in Coin(O). If the dev's are not prepared to support the community, then the community needs to support it's self

[DeltaQuebec]

I know, but the reality is, they have been not available, just a few weeks, as if almost a vacation. Its a minuscule ammnt of time in the grand scope of things. W/e happens happens.. im not selling my coino , not now.. not ever probably.. and I'm cool with that. People get all up in arms, but forget the unbelievable ammnt of time they put in the beginning. If I was coino.. and came back to see all the dread talk.. Ide be mining the snot out of it.. getting all I can for myself.. and showing all the ney-sayers where to go.Then reap the rewards for my hard work.

God speed, n all that good stuff.

[bgade]

I know, but the reality is, they have been not available, just a few weeks, as if almost a vacation.

I think what everyone is busy thinking is the same thing - that a single developer of a coin went somewhere for a while.  That might be school exams... might be a vacation... might be a lot of things.  They might even come back.

The inherent problem is that means Coino is based on a lie.  It was promised as having the support of an entire marketing agency behind it.  The sting of finding out that was not really true is what upset so many people and started the dumping.  You know its true because the entire marketing agency didn't go on vacation at the same time. 

There was a fair amount of work put in originally.  There was even a press release on a paid newswire.  That work led to a high value for Coino.  When that work stopped happening without any discussion/comment from Coino, it led first to worry then panic.  The last post from Coino was dismissive and sounded like a bratty kid - which just confirmed everyone's belief that they had been had.  A real marketing agency would have been trying to pick up the pieces and talk the talk.  The fact they didn't proved again that there was no master marketing agency in the background.

The reason everyone is waiting patiently for April 1st... is to make sure no decisions are made in haste.  Its fair that by that time, if the developer is still around they will show up and say something.  If they don't, its safe to assume they are long gone.  If they do, they need to do more then be dismissive.  They need to discuss where they have been, where the roadmap is at and then continue on with the support of the community. 

And so we wait patiently... with a nice side effect being that everyone who isn't patient and doesn't make solid plans left already.  That means those who do wait are the ones who can probably do the work needed.

[smcardle]

I know, but the reality is, they have been not available, just a few weeks, as if almost a vacation. Its a minuscule ammnt of time in the grand scope of things. W/e happens happens.. im not selling my coino , not now.. not ever probably.. and I'm cool with that. People get all up in arms, but forget the unbelievable ammnt of time they put in the beginning. If I was coino.. and came back to see all the dread talk.. Ide be mining the snot out of it.. getting all I can for myself.. and showing all the ney-sayers where to go.Then reap the rewards for my hard work.

God speed, n all that good stuff.

I can't say I disagree with you at all.
However, the doom and gloom as you say could have easily been avoided by the dev's popping in once and a while to keep the community informed and reassured they are still working behind the scenes.

Nobody wanted a blow for blow account of what it was they are doing on a day to day basic, just an update.

The problem is unfortunately, the dev's have failed to show up in either their own forum, this forum or on IRC recently. This alone brings into question the claims of a German Marketing company being behind this Coin, and if that is not true, then what is?

These are not my words by the way, these are the words being spoken by many of the members here. This has a hugely negative impact on the community as people start to post 'angry' and sometimes insulting and inflammatory comments about them. I don't agree with these comments and have tried to dull them down on occasion but people will vent their frustrations anyway.

[smcardle]

I know, but the reality is, they have been not available, just a few weeks, as if almost a vacation.

I think what everyone is busy thinking is the same thing - that a single developer of a coin went somewhere for a while.  That might be school exams... might be a vacation... might be a lot of things.  They might even come back.

The inherent problem is that means Coino is based on a lie.  It was promised as having the support of an entire marketing agency behind it.  The sting of finding out that was not really true is what upset so many people and started the dumping.  You know its true because the entire marketing agency didn't go on vacation at the same time. 

There was a fair amount of work put in originally.  There was even a press release on a paid newswire.  That work led to a high value for Coino.  When that work stopped happening without any discussion/comment from Coino, it led first to worry then panic.  The last post from Coino was dismissive and sounded like a bratty kid - which just confirmed everyone's belief that they had been had.  A real marketing agency would have been trying to pick up the pieces and talk the talk.  The fact they didn't proved again that there was no master marketing agency in the background.

The reason everyone is waiting patiently for April 1st... is to make sure no decisions are made in haste.  Its fair that by that time, if the developer is still around they will show up and say something.  If they don't, its safe to assume they are long gone.  If they do, they need to do more then be dismissive.  They need to discuss where they have been, where the roadmap is at and then continue on with the support of the community. 

And so we wait patiently... with a nice side effect being that everyone who isn't patient and doesn't make solid plans left already.  That means those who do wait are the ones who can probably do the work needed.

+1

[smcardle]

I know, but the reality is, they have been not available, just a few weeks, as if almost a vacation. Its a minuscule ammnt of time in the grand scope of things. W/e happens happens.. im not selling my coino , not now.. not ever probably.. and I'm cool with that. People get all up in arms, but forget the unbelievable ammnt of time they put in the beginning. If I was coino.. and came back to see all the dread talk.. Ide be mining the snot out of it.. getting all I can for myself.. and showing all the ney-sayers where to go.Then reap the rewards for my hard work.

God speed, n all that good stuff.

Delta

Why not pop in to the coino IRC and get involved. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#coinocoin

If you intend to hold your coin long term, then it would be in your best interest to at least see whats going on in the background and maybe get involved if you want.

[bgade]

My handle is smcardle and my real name is Steven McArdle, just as my handle states. I'm 50 years old and am not hiding here under anonymity.
I own a software company called EOSSOnline Limited in New Zealand. I sponsor IT education in schools and the Cloud Code of Practice and am also a member of the NZ IITP (New Zealand Institute of IT Professionals)

I suggest that a lot of the future in Coino could be to have everyone in the community of developers be open about who they are and what they do.  If you take a list of all the alt-coins and then remove everyone which is "anonymous" you aren't left with much.  That in itself could be a huge advantage for Coino.  Plus the neat name.

I'll go next...

I'm Bill Gade, I use bgade on pretty much every forum I'm on.  I'm new to crypto currency.  Its a hobby for me.  But I have dreams of eventually having a sideline in it.

In real life, I'm the CEO of the 83 North Group.  We do a bunch of things... we own and operate a trucking fleet, a retail location with computers and Sears catalog, a printing shop and a wireless ISP.  We also own four radio stations in Manitoba, Canada.  They are licensed over the air broadcasters and include: CJSB-FM, CJIE-FM, CJBP-FM and CJVM-FM.  I sit on the board of NACTV, an over the air not-for-profit television station.  You can catch us nationally on Bell Direct Satellite, channel 592.  

I'm always up for conversation, but at times it takes me a while to respond when I'm busy with real life projects.  I'm a Coino supporter and intend to launch a Coino Point of Sale system similar to what was created for Bitcoin, but at a lower cost and a higher uptake ratio.

[smcardle]

My handle is smcardle and my real name is Steven McArdle, just as my handle states. I'm 50 years old and am not hiding here under anonymity.
I own a software company called EOSSOnline Limited in New Zealand. I sponsor IT education in schools and the Cloud Code of Practice and am also a member of the NZ IITP (New Zealand Institute of IT Professionals)

I suggest that a lot of the future in Coino could be to have everyone in the community of developers be open about who they are and what they do.  If you take a list of all the alt-coins and then remove everyone which is "anonymous" you aren't left with much.  That in itself could be a huge advantage for Coino.  Plus the neat name.

I'll go next...

I'm Bill Gade, I use bgade on pretty much every forum I'm on.  I'm new to crypto currency.  Its a hobby for me.  But I have dreams of eventually having a sideline in it.

In real life, I'm the CEO of the 83 North Group.  We do a bunch of things... we own and operate a trucking fleet, a retail location with computers and Sears catalog, a printing shop and a wireless ISP.  We also own four radio stations in Manitoba, Canada.  They are licensed over the air broadcasters and include: CJSB-FM, CJIE-FM, CJBP-FM and CJVM-FM.  I sit on the board of NACTV, an over the air not-for-profit television station.  You can catch us nationally on Bell Direct Satellite, channel 592.  

I'm always up for conversation, but at times it takes me a while to respond when I'm busy with real life projects.  I'm a Coino supporter and intend to launch a Coino Point of Sale system similar to what was created for Bitcoin, but at a lower cost and a higher uptake ratio.

Great, now we know we have at least two people who are not anonymous and with the history and skills to make a difference here.
If your still having trouble understanding what it is I do, who I am, or what my qualifications are then here is my Linkedin profile http://nz.linkedin.com/in/smcardle/
 
Who's next

[DeltaQuebec]

I see your point 100%, however my approach is this.. allow it some time, a week or two more.. mabey a month, then start w/e it is you wanna start. ( Im still not clear on how you could take over anything, as a group, or individual, marketing, action plan or w/e ). Trying to keep people calm.. good idea, but people need to really REALLY realize , that crypto is not some get rich fast scheem, there may have been a day, before my time, where a few MH was absolute bank. Those days are no longer, and haven't been from what I understand for quite some time.  Believe me, I remember the days when Coino in its infancy, was an ok profit, not great, nothin to get all razzle-dazzeled by..but decent. Dev's havent appeared in a few weeks, are you aware of what happened with one of the dev's parents? I dont want to speak out of line here.. but there was to the best of my knowledge a death in the family, resulting in the remaining parent ( elderly ), alone. Now I don't wanna toss stones.. or air any ones family business that isnt mine..and TBH, I don't know that as absolute fact, however.. if it is the case, when they make appropriate arrangements for their immediate family business to be handled, and things are a bit more calm, I would know, that if it was me in that position, I would be hurt even more, by an Idea, that others believed in, that I helped create & come to existence , being.. I cant think of a good word here.. critiqued so soon. I know when my mother passed away, it was a SH^# storm with the Estate, and this n that, it went on for months, and thats just the legal end, not dealing with the personal side of stuff too.

Again, I will reiterate I Can't vouch for the validity of this, BUT.. if it is, and I really have no reason not to believe it isnt fact, I would like to know, that as a whole, we stood behind them. I think your intentions are genuine, however, realistically, the community dosent own the rights to move forward with the coin in its intended direction.

FTR, I'm just a lil ole miner guy.. I have no big bux.. no crazy portfolio, 1 GPU, and a whole lotta chair time. I know people put lots of hash on this, and more than likely lots of FIAT, but try and remember, that on the other side of the coin & monitor, there are people too, that unfortunately things happen. It's not a perfect situation, no fairy tale's ending here @ the moment, and again I do understand how anyone, myself included, kinda head tilts a lil here.\..sometimes alot.

I really am just saying the same thing over n over @ this point.. and Im sorry for turning this into some deep boring thought... but from my perspective, keep talkin, keep the ideas coming.. keep the faith.. and give it a lil more time.

Again, sorry for rambling..

-Happy Mining

[smcardle]

I see your point 100%, however my approach is this.. allow it some time, a week or two more.. mabey a month, then start w/e it is you wanna start. ( Im still not clear on how you could take over anything, as a group, or individual, marketing, action plan or w/e ). Trying to keep people calm.. good idea, but people need to really REALLY realize , that crypto is not some get rich fast scheem, there may have been a day, before my time, where a few MH was absolute bank. Those days are no longer, and haven't been from what I understand for quite some time.  Believe me, I remember the days when Coino in its infancy, was an ok profit, not great, nothin to get all razzle-dazzeled by..but decent. Dev's havent appeared in a few weeks, are you aware of what happened with one of the dev's parents? I dont want to speak out of line here.. but there was to the best of my knowledge a death in the family, resulting in the remaining parent ( elderly ), alone. Now I don't wanna toss stones.. or air any ones family business that isnt mine..and TBH, I don't know that as absolute fact, however.. if it is the case, when they make appropriate arrangements for their immediate family business to be handled, and things are a bit more calm, I would know, that if it was me in that position, I would be hurt even more, by an Idea, that others believed in, that I helped create & come to existence , being.. I cant think of a good word here.. critiqued so soon. I know when my mother passed away, it was a SH^# storm with the Estate, and this n that, it went on for months, and thats just the legal end, not dealing with the personal side of stuff too.

Again, I will reiterate I Can't vouch for the validity of this, BUT.. if it is, and I really have no reason not to believe it isnt fact, I would like to know, that as a whole, we stood behind them. I think your intentions are genuine, however, realistically, the community dosent own the rights to move forward with the coin in its intended direction.

FTR, I'm just a lil ole miner guy.. I have no big bux.. no crazy portfolio, 1 GPU, and a whole lotta chair time. I know people put lots of hash on this, and more than likely lots of FIAT, but try and remember, that on the other side of the coin & monitor, there are people too, that unfortunately things happen. It's not a perfect situation, no fairy tale's ending here @ the moment, and again I do understand how anyone, myself included, kinda head tilts a lil here.\..sometimes alot.

I really am just saying the same thing over n over @ this point.. and Im sorry for turning this into some deep boring thought... but from my perspective, keep talkin, keep the ideas coming.. keep the faith.. and give it a lil more time.

Again, sorry for rambling..

-Happy Mining

Yes, most of us here are aware of the dev's recent family issues, and yes I do feel for him.

However, it has highlighted a really serious issue. It is unlikely that there is any German Marketing company behind this coin. That means it is built on a lie, and that does not go down well with the community.

I also am not a serious miner, I have only 1 R9 270X that mines at night while I sleep, no big ass rigs or anything.

If this was just for money I would have been long gone with the rest who have jumped ship. Two weeks, no communication in this game is a BIG deal and a marketing company would know that.
The reason I am here is probably the same as most, we were suckered in to start with. But now that I ma here, I like this community and I do like the coin even without the promises of debit cards etc.
 
So I am sure all of the people over in the IRC would love to have you there, you don't need a big swinging dick to get into this club, just a want to see Coin(O) grow in the long term with a committed community

[onetoniro]

i will ask about this coin to all member..
What do you think about this coin??
whether his future is still good, or already gone?

[DeltaQuebec]

I see your point 100%, however my approach is this.. allow it some time, a week or two more.. mabey a month, then start w/e it is you wanna start. ( Im still not clear on how you could take over anything, as a group, or individual, marketing, action plan or w/e ). Trying to keep people calm.. good idea, but people need to really REALLY realize , that crypto is not some get rich fast scheem, there may have been a day, before my time, where a few MH was absolute bank. Those days are no longer, and haven't been from what I understand for quite some time.  Believe me, I remember the days when Coino in its infancy, was an ok profit, not great, nothin to get all razzle-dazzeled by..but decent. Dev's havent appeared in a few weeks, are you aware of what happened with one of the dev's parents? I dont want to speak out of line here.. but there was to the best of my knowledge a death in the family, resulting in the remaining parent ( elderly ), alone. Now I don't wanna toss stones.. or air any ones family business that isnt mine..and TBH, I don't know that as absolute fact, however.. if it is the case, when they make appropriate arrangements for their immediate family business to be handled, and things are a bit more calm, I would know, that if it was me in that position, I would be hurt even more, by an Idea, that others believed in, that I helped create & come to existence , being.. I cant think of a good word here.. critiqued so soon. I know when my mother passed away, it was a SH^# storm with the Estate, and this n that, it went on for months, and thats just the legal end, not dealing with the personal side of stuff too.

Again, I will reiterate I Can't vouch for the validity of this, BUT.. if it is, and I really have no reason not to believe it isnt fact, I would like to know, that as a whole, we stood behind them. I think your intentions are genuine, however, realistically, the community dosent own the rights to move forward with the coin in its intended direction.

FTR, I'm just a lil ole miner guy.. I have no big bux.. no crazy portfolio, 1 GPU, and a whole lotta chair time. I know people put lots of hash on this, and more than likely lots of FIAT, but try and remember, that on the other side of the coin & monitor, there are people too, that unfortunately things happen. It's not a perfect situation, no fairy tale's ending here @ the moment, and again I do understand how anyone, myself included, kinda head tilts a lil here.\..sometimes alot.

I really am just saying the same thing over n over @ this point.. and Im sorry for turning this into some deep boring thought... but from my perspective, keep talkin, keep the ideas coming.. keep the faith.. and give it a lil more time.

Again, sorry for rambling..

-Happy Mining

Yes, most of us here are aware of the dev's recent family issues, and yes I do feel for him.

However, it has highlighted a really serious issue. It is unlikely that there is any German Marketing company behind this coin. That means it is built on a lie, and that does not go down well with the community.

I also am not a serious miner, I have only 1 R9 270X that mines at night while I sleep, no big ass rigs or anything.

If this was just for money I would have been long gone with the rest who have jumped ship. Two weeks, no communication in this game is a BIG deal and a marketing company would know that.
The reason I am here is probably the same as most, we were suckered in to start with. But now that I ma here, I like this community and I do like the coin even without the promises of debit cards etc.
 
So I am sure all of the people over in the IRC would love to have you there, you don't need a big swinging dick to get into this club, just a want to see Coin(O) grow in the long term with a committed community

I disagree, any marketing company I know of, or any company for that matter, isnt fully composed of people capable of 'alt-coin development'. It's probabaly a side project, as any one who would put their entire marketing companies gusto into an alt-coin, needs to go back to Buis Econ 101. Two weeks no communication , and no giant dump = not a big deal. The days of insta-mega profits are gone. This is a reality in all alt's. And will only continue to dwindle with 'asics' . I'm not jumping on the 'its a lie' bandwagon after 2 or 3 weeks. That would be insane from an investment standpoint. But it would fit the ' I want max profits NOW NOW NOW mindset. The days of Now now now, are gone. And considering how the coin reacts to increased net hash the only way this coin will increase in value, is an increase of mining, which will in turn increase difficulty & thats not happening, due to the 'now now now' mindset. If theres any one to blame, its the people not mining it, because they want to be swoon with 'action plans' & hype on an hourly basis.

[smcardle]

I see your point 100%, however my approach is this.. allow it some time, a week or two more.. mabey a month, then start w/e it is you wanna start. ( Im still not clear on how you could take over anything, as a group, or individual, marketing, action plan or w/e ). Trying to keep people calm.. good idea, but people need to really REALLY realize , that crypto is not some get rich fast scheem, there may have been a day, before my time, where a few MH was absolute bank. Those days are no longer, and haven't been from what I understand for quite some time.  Believe me, I remember the days when Coino in its infancy, was an ok profit, not great, nothin to get all razzle-dazzeled by..but decent. Dev's havent appeared in a few weeks, are you aware of what happened with one of the dev's parents? I dont want to speak out of line here.. but there was to the best of my knowledge a death in the family, resulting in the remaining parent ( elderly ), alone. Now I don't wanna toss stones.. or air any ones family business that isnt mine..and TBH, I don't know that as absolute fact, however.. if it is the case, when they make appropriate arrangements for their immediate family business to be handled, and things are a bit more calm, I would know, that if it was me in that position, I would be hurt even more, by an Idea, that others believed in, that I helped create & come to existence , being.. I cant think of a good word here.. critiqued so soon. I know when my mother passed away, it was a SH^# storm with the Estate, and this n that, it went on for months, and thats just the legal end, not dealing with the personal side of stuff too.

Again, I will reiterate I Can't vouch for the validity of this, BUT.. if it is, and I really have no reason not to believe it isnt fact, I would like to know, that as a whole, we stood behind them. I think your intentions are genuine, however, realistically, the community dosent own the rights to move forward with the coin in its intended direction.

FTR, I'm just a lil ole miner guy.. I have no big bux.. no crazy portfolio, 1 GPU, and a whole lotta chair time. I know people put lots of hash on this, and more than likely lots of FIAT, but try and remember, that on the other side of the coin & monitor, there are people too, that unfortunately things happen. It's not a perfect situation, no fairy tale's ending here @ the moment, and again I do understand how anyone, myself included, kinda head tilts a lil here.\..sometimes alot.

I really am just saying the same thing over n over @ this point.. and Im sorry for turning this into some deep boring thought... but from my perspective, keep talkin, keep the ideas coming.. keep the faith.. and give it a lil more time.

Again, sorry for rambling..

-Happy Mining

Yes, most of us here are aware of the dev's recent family issues, and yes I do feel for him.

However, it has highlighted a really serious issue. It is unlikely that there is any German Marketing company behind this coin. That means it is built on a lie, and that does not go down well with the community.

I also am not a serious miner, I have only 1 R9 270X that mines at night while I sleep, no big ass rigs or anything.

If this was just for money I would have been long gone with the rest who have jumped ship. Two weeks, no communication in this game is a BIG deal and a marketing company would know that.
The reason I am here is probably the same as most, we were suckered in to start with. But now that I ma here, I like this community and I do like the coin even without the promises of debit cards etc.
 
So I am sure all of the people over in the IRC would love to have you there, you don't need a big swinging dick to get into this club, just a want to see Coin(O) grow in the long term with a committed community

I disagree, any marketing company I know of, or any company for that matter, isnt fully composed of people capable of 'alt-coin development'. It's probabaly a side project, as any one who would put their entire marketing companies gusto into an alt-coin, needs to go back to Buis Econ 101. Two weeks no communication , and no giant dump = not a big deal. The days of insta-mega profits are gone. This is a reality in all alt's. And will only continue to dwindle with 'asics' . I'm not jumping on the 'its a lie' bandwagon after 2 or 3 weeks. That would be insane from an investment standpoint. But it would fit the ' I want max profits NOW NOW NOW mindset. The days of Now now now, are gone. And considering how the coin reacts to increased net hash the only way this coin will increase in value, is an increase of mining, which will in turn increase difficulty & thats not happening, due to the 'now now now' mindset. If theres any one to blame, its the people not mining it, because they want to be swoon with 'action plans' & hype on an hourly basis.

Like everybody else here, you are entitled to your opinion.

There will always be pros and cons to every argument, otherwise it's just an agreement What a boring world this would be then.

However, that does not change what is being discussed over on the IRC http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#coinocoin
Why not come over, see whats going on, join in and make your points. We will be glad to see you there.

[nzminer]

50 Seconds is still still slow, we need an instant coin, something as fast as EFTPOS or Credit Card.
From what i understand with the model of all these altcoins, you will get orphans with short block times.

[bgade]

For everyone who has been asking about the premine as of late...

Its located at this address:
UPRYB2QbDTq6rXT6TyfyRj1HxmGHnqiypB

And the current balance is:
1973755 CON

It has not moved since January 25th. 

[aircrusan]

Is there any way to fusionate two or more coins?

I mean having 2 dying coins and made a new one from both of them?

Maybe that could be a good solutions to this kind of cases... It would be like a relaunch.

Obviously it would work only with coins based on the same algorythm....

[paddox]

50 Seconds is still still slow, we need an instant coin, something as fast as EFTPOS or Credit Card.
From what i understand with the model of all these altcoins, you will get orphans with short block times.

The fast block times was the reason I invested in this coin. Any improvement on them can only help promote this coin to more people.

[nzminer]

50 Seconds is still still slow, we need an instant coin, something as fast as EFTPOS or Credit Card.
From what i understand with the model of all these altcoins, you will get orphans with short block times.

The fast block times was the reason I invested in this coin. Any improvement on them can only help promote this coin to more people.

But Digibyte, quarkcoin and mincoin are already faster than this, not to mention many other altcoins on the market such as fastcoin or NXT.

[JustHayden]

For everyone who has been asking about the premine as of late...

Its located at this address:
UPRYB2QbDTq6rXT6TyfyRj1HxmGHnqiypB

And the current balance is:
1973755 CON

It has not moved since January 25th. 

Thanks for tracking it down, I didn't think they'd spend it anyways, probably waiting for the value to go up or maybe they really are just putting the project on hold for a little while. I just want them to deliver on the roadmap...