[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[smoothie]

Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you?

Yeah so disappointing to hear all this DASH news. Such a terrible shame to see all these whitepapers and devs hard at work. So depressing to see my masternodes making coins every day.

Meanwhile, what joy to listen to Adam White's incisive commentary. The boy is a legend. Go Adam. Go XMR!

We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).

Keep in mind, we're going to start revising the design tomorrow to try and figure out the best possible design to create. I think I've found a way to simplify this project by about 75%, which means we can have something much sooner. I'll start working on a proposal.

Yeah kinda like how Masternode Blinding was finished?

And also how it takes 20hours to mix using dark send?

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[TaoOfSaatoshi]

"Dash - if you want really good privacy" - Erik Voorhees

Thanks for posting this!

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/673614954562498560

[smoothie]

none of your business..clit fuck shit scum #*@!

typical shady ass person reply  ...KA CHING or let me say CAUGHT CHING!

backstabbing puddle of scum.

MacroEvan backstabbed Dashcoin BTW https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0 ....the irony LOL

Wait wait wait...so there was another coin named "Dashcoin" long before Dash came along?

I haven't looked into it. Can you TL;DR it for me? Thanks

[smoothie]

@drklvr the sock-puppet
Are you concerned? I think we, who are invested should be concerned.
What's your problem? Your comedy is getting boring.

Where's the problem? I'm just asking why masternode blinding hasn't been implemented by your lying instamine scamming dev who refuses to answer the question.

What Lukas_Jackson doesn't seem to get (after many iterations of the same explanation)...

That even though he is a Dash investor, some of us are here to warn newbies about Dash's shady history before investing.

[Honest Tim]

Jesus, is it me, or has the last 48 hours seen the trolls literally foaming at the mouth as they desperately snatch out every little incident (that has already been thrashed to death multiple times). It really is very, very sad behaviour.

[blokb]

"Dash - if you want really good privacy" - Erik Voorhees

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/151206/isy53mcw.png

Serio Lerned - Rootstock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_so7aokJgYY&t=8m9s

[smoothie]

Jesus, is it me, or has the last 48 hours seen the trolls literally foaming at the mouth as they desperately snatch out every little incident (that has already been thrashed to death multiple times). It really is very, very sad behaviour.

Trolls = opposing side of the argument/discussion.

I see the "non-trolls" as not wanting to address concerning issues about dash, its developer, and its history.

Questions go un-answered and so they are repeated.

Like the masternode blinding topic Evan has evaded for 8 months now because "MOBILE WALLETS".

[110110101]

Jesus, is it me, or has the last 48 hours seen the trolls literally foaming at the mouth as they desperately snatch out every little incident (that has already been thrashed to death multiple times). It really is very, very sad behaviour.

Well, as tons of positive and informative news are coming out from Mexico, parts of the crowd seem to be pretty nervous. Hence the stepping up on FUD and troll-meme du jour.

[Lukas_Jackson]

Chris Ellis welcome on board.

[someredguy]

Jesus, is it me, or has the last 48 hours seen the trolls literally foaming at the mouth as they desperately snatch out every little incident (that has already been thrashed to death multiple times). It really is very, very sad behaviour.

Combine that with the fact that there are postings that are being deleted... it makes for a very frustrating thread. The deleted postings do not seem to be the troll postings...

It is almost like the moderators and the trollsters are colluding.

Why can we not get some decent moderation?!?

[dnaleor]

I'd just like to point out to the trolls that Darksend Mixing is a passive process. To be fair, it is necessary to press the "Start Darksend Mixing" button and to enter your password if you have one, but after that it isn't necessary to participate actively in the mixing process - you can get straight back to trolling while the mixing takes place, if you think that is a productive way to spend your time.

depends of how you define passive...
You still need to have others on the network who are willing to mix with you (hence the liquidity providers).
This mixing can't be done offline for example. You need to have an active wallet connected to the network.

edit: what if I told you there are coins out there that have a feature you could define with the buzz word "InstantMixSend" :
You instantly mix when you broadcast the transaction. No need for a "dark liquidity pool" in your wallet.

[smoothie]

This reddit discussion from a few months ago gives insight into how long darksend mixing should/could take:


link: https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/3etq0y/what_is_the_point_of_darksend_mixing_in_the/

2d2d2d2aasdasd

In the dashcore wallet it has darksend mixing, it doesnt give any options but says 1000drk/2 rounds, so it will try to mix my balance of 10drk 100x over? or 200x over? Whats the point of this if i can darksend when i send payment?
edit: Its been over 2 hours and only says 8% which it said 20minutes into it, it keeps saying it failed will retry like theres something wrong with the network, is darksend a working feature?

Tungfa:

You can change the mixing settings in " Wallet Preferences"
Mixing makes pre mixed coins available for DS ! For the mixing you need other coins/wallets to be mixing with you, so if nobody is online mixing it will take longer. be patient, DS works

2d2d2d2aasdasd:

Its been running since i made this post and its only at 9%, how patient do i have to be, like 72 hours patient?

Tungfa:

depends on how many coins, how many rounds
what are you doing 1000 Dash / 2 Rounds ? 72 hours definitely

2d2d2d2aasdasd:

I dont even have 1000 dash, i have like $20 worth. Its set at 1000 dash by default but im assuming that means it will mix up to 1000, right, like how could it mix more than there is?
So basically to use dash anonymously i got to leave my computer on for 3 days?

[TanteStefana2]

Jesus, is it me, or has the last 48 hours seen the trolls literally foaming at the mouth as they desperately snatch out every little incident (that has already been thrashed to death multiple times). It really is very, very sad behaviour.

Combine that with the fact that there are postings that are being deleted... it makes for a very frustrating thread. The deleted postings do not seem to be the troll postings...

It is almost like the moderators and the trollsters are colluding.

Why can we not get some decent moderation?!?

Nope, Bitcointalk.org has gone to the hyenas.  I really don't know why I still come here.  It's a habit to see "what's going on" and I'm usually disappointed

[Lukas_Jackson]

"Dash - if you want really good privacy" - Erik Voorhees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CQqvzwrn8M

Serio Lerned - Rootstock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_so7aokJgYY&t=8m9s

Thanks.
It's good that people is starting to talk about Dash and compare their models

[Solarminer]

Anyone interested in getting an email when a new budget proposal is released?  I created a notifier to run on your masternode server (or anything with a dashd running)

https://dashtalk.org/threads/december-2015-budget-proposal.7210/page-3

Moocowmoo and dashwhale are welcome to use my code for their products!  

[Lukas_Jackson]

Nope, Bitcointalk.org has gone to the hyenas.  I really don't know why I still come here.  It's a habit to see "what's going on" and I'm usually disappointed

They feel so uncomfortable with Dash. Do you not see this? It's hilarious. You shouldn't be dissapointed for sure  
That's the way it is.

[pbleak]

Evan has always been pretty clear that things take time and has had no problem reverting dates/timelines as the project expands. In a world where people are obsessed with everything happening *now*, because they are too used to making a quick buck or hoping for black swan events to push BTC up, this is a relatively sane approach. Bitcoin too, what, 15 years of cypherpunk culture to come together and ya'll want any innovation this second? Why not ignore DASH and just get into whatever cryptocoin still pulls in a fast buck these days (assuming there are even any). The confidence in Evan is expressed in its marketcap. You don't need to reveal the flaws. People can do it themselves and move on if they think he is not up to the task. It's really simple.

[Riseman]

I think they're paid for making certain words from some list appear on every page of this topic, like the i-word. There's no way someone is so persistent on their own will.

[smoothie]

Evan has always been pretty clear that things take time and has had no problem reverting dates/timelines as the project expands. In a world where people are obsessed with everything happening *now*, because they are too used to making a quick buck or hoping for black swan events to push BTC up, this is a relatively sane approach. Bitcoin too, what, 15 years of cypherpunk culture to come together and ya'll want any innovation this second? Why not ignore DASH and just get into whatever cryptocoin still pulls in a fast buck these days (assuming there are even any). The confidence in Evan is expressed in its marketcap. You don't need to reveal the flaws. People can do it themselves and move on if they think he is not up to the task. It's really simple.

I understand things take time in the development world of software. But that doesn't remove the question of why did Evan make it appear that masternode blinding was "fast" and "working" only to delay it because "MOBILE WALLETS" then to never talk about it again as seen in the quotes below:

Masternode blinding is working  

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding

There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

************ Please Update To 11.2.22! ****************

- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.

[moocowmoo]

Anyone interested in getting an email when a new budget proposal is released?  I created a notifier to run on your masternode server (or anything with a dashd running)

https://dashtalk.org/threads/december-2015-budget-proposal.7210/page-3

Moocowmoo and dashwhale are welcome to use my code for their products!  

You need to filter out the a few of the fields or you're going to get spammed to death.

Quick and dirty, change your mnbudget show to something like:

Code:

dash-cli mnbudget show | grep Name | sort

to only extract the unique names for comparison.