[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[dihydrogenmonoxide]

Wow just wow so Evan was planning a merger of SDC and DASH?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7z840EcKjGNr7jZTwHL1u5HDTGNqHeeCszrR0Iy1J8/edit?pli=1

Yeah, we were at a early stage negotiating a merger to acquire more developer resources, but the proposal was leaked beforehand and both communities denied it.

We decided to call it off completely and solved the lack of resources differently.

One year later the team of Dash is larger than ever.

can you clarify what you meant by the bolded?

I think the references you quoted are already a good starting point to get an idea how both communities reacted back then: we had a shitstorm in both, DRK and SDC, threads and it was quite obvious that the majority of the communities was against the merger.

Looking back we were a bit naive, thinking we could merge communities like you merge git repos. Lesson learned, moved on.

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[illodin]

what DarkCoin does is highly centralized

"masternodes" "does not sound like" something decenteralized, "it sounds like" something that creates a small chokepoint which could be used to deanonymize its users, like a server based CoinJoin but worse since you have to hold a huge pile of coins to run a server.

"Does not sound like" and "it sounds like" do not qualify as scientific observations by any stretch of the imagination. These are the ramblings of an individual who has absolutely no clue how Dash works.

Gmax invented coinjoin, the mixing algorithm Darkcoin broke, bastardized, and rebranded as 'Darksend.'

Obviously, his opinions are those of one with the highest possible levels of expertise.

His opinions could also be perceived to be highly biased as he has been jumping into (wrong) conclusions (intentionally or not?) and displaying extreme anger towards anyone profiting or intending to profit by building on top of previous inventions or even improving them that he himself (or his associates) have failed to profit themselves of.

See for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211093.msg12713560#msg12713560

I looked at your "example."  That's just TPTB (aka Anonymint) being his usual insane self.

Gmax is a stickler for attribution because he believes in FOSS.

As a FOSS supporter he is happy for others to use the tools he's invented, whether for profit or not.

You should read the example thread I posted again, but do it sober this time. It clearly shows him jumping into conclusions and baseless angry accusations and not even saying sorry after AnonyMint proved him wrong, just disappeared.

[tungfa]

Is there a (properly moderated) technical discussion forum where we can contribute opinions on the new roadmap stuff ?

evans announcement (should be coming soon, i pinged him already) would be the one on DT

[toknormal]

Is there a (properly moderated) technical discussion forum where we can contribute opinions on the new roadmap stuff ?

evans announcement (should be coming soon, i pinged him already) would be the one on DT

Naeborra.

[qwizzie]

https://www.dash.org/evolution/
https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdf

DashPaper-V13-V1
Page 16

Network Administrators ?



This deserves some discussion : how much power would these network administrators get, how many of them will there be and
how much control do we have over them ?
 

[noobtrader]

What is now obvious is lets not feed these morons!  We are on ward and up ward and lets make sure as a community we don't get sucked into their vortex!!!!    the future is bright indeed.

agreed, all these moronerootroll including their dev really has no ethic at all, trolling and fudding here every minute like its their day job  i wonder how come anyone invest in a coin invested with such liar and troll. with such kind of ethic and behavior can anyone expect their coin is not a scam ?

"Looking forward to it" does not imply I like it.

Yes actually. It implies exactly that, you sad idiot:

look forward to sth
— phrasal verb with look
B1 to ​feel ​pleased and ​excited about something that is going to ​happen

It is impossible to be pleased by or feel excited about something you do not like unless you're some kind of S&M pervert oops no wait, even then it applies.
So not only are you butthurt and mad obvious from your lunatic tirade, you also deserted the realm of basic logic and understanding. Not surprised I must say. You were a mentally unstable and shitty troll to begin with anyway.

#EPIC-REKT confirmed

Nice try.

Ever heard of one saying "I look forward to the BFL labs booth so I can see how full of shit they are"?

You can't derive context from my statement. Context matters.

Oops, smoothie caught lying again.

[shanem]

Who is trying to suppress this coin? From the Poloniex chart, almost all the candlestick are red. Even XMR chart do not show all red candlestick.

[stan.distortion]

I've been trying to get an answer to the question, why do you need to make friends and exchange addresses if you can also make anonymous payments with the "next address available" to someone else?  I don't understand the advantage?

I do understand the advantage of the networking, having friends, or just profiles you can pay to, as is done for Paypal using email addresses.  But why the storage of other people's payment addresses?  Does it speed things up?  Is it more secure?

And again, if you can open up your wallet on any device and it's always up to date no matter which device you last used, why does the paper say everything is stored on your device locally?

How would storing information on your device make it more secure?  I fear losing my device and thus my information (if it's like my phone, and I use it daily, I could easily lose my phone by leaving it somewhere, I'm absent minded)  So if nobody could access anything except the app, if they didn't know my passphrase, and had no memory of my information vs anyone else on the system, I'd feel safer.  But I'm definitely not a security person, I don't understand the advantages, so if someone could help, I'd sure appreciate it

As far as I can tell its by using deterministic wallets so you use a relatively easy to recall key to generate the private key rather than the private key directly. Could be anything, a passage from a book or line from a song and a lot of time's been spent on working out what kind of thing is most secure while being easy to remember:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Deterministic_wallet

The ID stuff blew me away, get that working right and it could be even more revolutionary than getting rid of too big to fail banks. Its voluntary, you control what's visible and who its visible to and can have any number of them so you could have one ID as a reputable business building up a solid reputation and others for private stuff, separate ones for everything you do, all sorts but only connected to you personally by your choice and they should be completely anonymous if not.

One thing it should do is make life very difficult for the likes of the trolls as it allows for a reputation system and theirs will burn up very quickly and the views of new sock puppets will be worth very little in public discussion, probably not even seen and circle jerk reputation gaming wouldn't work either as it would result in whole groups that can be isolated. It goes way beyond public discussions though, essentially it gives reputation value and that's a currency in its own right, there's some huge implications and huge potential for screwups but the masternode network is an ideal testing ground for getting it working and as a showcase for real world adoption.

[qwizzie]

To help with solving questions people may have about Dash Evolution in a more organised way, i created the following thread on the Dashtalk forum :

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-evolution-discussion-thread.7231/

Feel feel to participate

[arielbit]

arielbit or fluffy, read my history. I'm sure you'll find my love story, my love  

your history shows you are not a newbie...

Of course. I said that I'm not a newbie. But never considered to even have an account here before.
Didn't even know english to be able to write something but I was able to read and knew how to buy or mine btc early

everybody know this is a half baked story  

  how many of these accounts exist on this thread that follow this same pattern?

What does your retarded digging in old posts actually prove? That you can click usernames and post histories? What kind of pathetic fucktard are you? Are so desperate to find dirt that you grasp at straws in such an obvious and ridiculous way? How hard has Evolution fucked you up the ass boy? Did it burn that much that you degenerated into a bumbling retard or were you born that way?

these people are getting pissed right now that they are getting exposed btw

so macrorat, signup feb 1 2015, first post darkcoin and forever darkcoin ...aaand loaded with masternodes hehe

you are a sore loser  

Yep. I was right: You didn't get it.
What did I expect anyway? Elementary drop-outs make up 95% of internet trolls

you didn't get it either.
i was right too 95% of losers are sore losers, like you  

Couldn't hear you over the sound of my cash registers going KA CHING.
What did you say? I'm a what? Sorry, drowning in buttloads of dough over here. Say again please?
Oops, nevermind, my 6th Masternode just got paid, hold your important thoughts!

what is your love at first sight story with darkcoin?

noobs beware...you are thinking you are reading posts by a full member or sr.member or hero member..all this are multiple account circle jerkers    

KA CHING! LOL

[DrkLvr_]

Thursday: "Evolusham demo by Miami conf in Jan 2016"

Friday: "Evolusham demo in a year or two"

Saturday: "LOL I dunno, maybe 10 years?"




Evan's empty broken promises: worthless

Evan's Gate mothership having a sad: priceless

10 years? Wow...

Why not just make it 25 years? And everyone involved in dash will be in retirement mode to collect their golden donkey?

Evan has all the time in the world! Every day he collects on his 1000+ instamined masternodes - day in, day out. DASH is a Scam 2.0 coin

[DrkLvr_]

Evan has all the time in the world! Every day he collects on his 1000+ instamined masternodes - day in, day out. DASH is a Scam 2.0 coin

Adam has all the time in the world! Every day he trolls DASH with 1000+ words of steaming BS - day in, day out. Adam gets 2.0 XMR for this.

OK Evan.

[dnaleor]

This was conveniently left out from the published papers I suppose:

Mixing still relies on liquidity providers, which just shows how broken the system is. Even joinmarket works better. Unless DASH will implement a joinmarket-like system of course. But why use DASH then  
Joinmarket will give you better privacy than an illiquid DASH mixing system.

This is a leak from the "rough copy" Wolf talked about earlier. A lot of people had access to it before this official release:

[DrkLvr_]

Who is trying to suppress this coin? From the Poloniex chart, almost all the candlestick are red. Even XMR chart do not show all red candlestick.

This is eduffield, Minotaur26 and Otoh with their Sell-bots. Every day they get paid worthless DASH from their instamined masternodes which obviously needs to be converted to a valuable coin like BTC. Please continue to support DASH by putting up as many buy orders as you can! Failure to do so confirms you're a TROLL

[arielbit]

none of your business..clit fuck shit scum #*@!

typical shady ass person reply  ...KA CHING or let me say CAUGHT CHING!

backstabbing puddle of scum.

MacroEvan backstabbed Dashcoin BTW https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0 ....the irony LOL

[moocowmoo]

As far as I can tell its by using deterministic wallets so you use a relatively easy to recall key to generate the private key rather than the private key directly. Could be anything, a passage from a book or line from a song

That is exactly how you'll lose your coins.  Don't choose any phrase that already exists.

https://masternode.me/smart_passwords.html

(I only recommend this level of complexity for protecting master seeds or gpg keys)

[Lebubar]

I kept thinking Evan was showing everyone the future.  It seemed that there was a line that if he said too much they wouldn't understand or believe it. 

It also looked like he had to be a lot more politically correct there.  Almost apologetic that he made another coin.  Undoubtedly, the atmosphere is still volatile toward dissidence with some people there. 

Maybe it's time to hold small Dash meetups now?  Not quite convention, but more like Bitcoin Wednesday?

This was a difficult presentation to do.   Be nice to Bitcoin, realize most of the people have English as a second language, and you have 30 minutes to share with 3 others - but don't go warp speed or act with an ego..... and running an hour+ late.  That's the real world.....

I think we would be better off if Dash can do more presentations at the next conference.  Split it into a few presentations with different speakers at different times talking about different aspects:   Dash specific(Evan), Distributed Governance + Autonomous Organizations(Dash Foundation), decentralized exchanges, and 2nd tier networks and security.  Have BolehVPN be the submitter of the talk for 2nd Tier Networks and security and work both angles on the talk.

They spent what an hour talking about a bitcoin charity.  That concept is easily understood in 2 minutes.   Frankly, it might be worth it to just buy the watch for 5 Bitcoins to end the auction early and talk about Dash for an extra 30 minutes.  Of course, that might not come across the right way.  We just need something of value to show to get time to talk.  Maybe how to setup a masternode, use a wallet, who knows.  It doesn't necessary need to be Dash specific.  But anything crypto will naturally showcase a Dash feature or two.

The presentation was one thing.
But also what was really important and worked pretty well, was all the discutions with all people presents at the event, and all the contact that was made during the full 2 days and nights.

[Jestah]

I now understand what ED was eluding to all this time, it goes all the way back to the re branding.

I'm happy to see all the new troll activity.  (Did they even send the derpy pamphlet guy to Mexico?)  Silly me, no....how would they fund it?  

There is nothing they can say or do, no matter how hard they try.  This forum and it's hatefulness is completely inconsequential in the big picture, I see that now.  DASH is destined for something much greater than anything a simple "coin" like Monero or even BTC could ever be.  

Before yesterday they thought they were only FUDding a coin's value, today they realize they need to go back to the drawing board.  I'm loving this.  

[DrkLvr_]

Before yesterday they thought they were only FUDding a coin's value, today they realize they need to go back to the drawing board.  I'm loving this.  

Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you? Keeping buying DASH, maybe in 10 years you won't have to wait 20 hours to mix coins and send an anon tx 

[qwizzie]

I kept thinking Evan was showing everyone the future.  It seemed that there was a line that if he said too much they wouldn't understand or believe it.

It also looked like he had to be a lot more politically correct there.  Almost apologetic that he made another coin.  Undoubtedly, the atmosphere is still volatile toward dissidence with some people there.  

Maybe it's time to hold small Dash meetups now?  Not quite convention, but more like Bitcoin Wednesday?

This was a difficult presentation to do.   Be nice to Bitcoin, realize most of the people have English as a second language, and you have 30 minutes to share with 3 others - but don't go warp speed or act with an ego..... and running an hour+ late.  That's the real world.....

I think we would be better off if Dash can do more presentations at the next conference.  Split it into a few presentations with different speakers at different times talking about different aspects:   Dash specific(Evan), Distributed Governance + Autonomous Organizations(Dash Foundation), decentralized exchanges, and 2nd tier networks and security.  Have BolehVPN be the submitter of the talk for 2nd Tier Networks and security and work both angles on the talk.

They spent what an hour talking about a bitcoin charity.  That concept is easily understood in 2 minutes.   Frankly, it might be worth it to just buy the watch for 5 Bitcoins to end the auction early and talk about Dash for an extra 30 minutes.  Of course, that might not come across the right way.  We just need something of value to show to get time to talk.  Maybe how to setup a masternode, use a wallet, who knows.  It doesn't necessary need to be Dash specific.  But anything crypto will naturally showcase a Dash feature or two.

The presentation was one thing.
But also what was really important and worked pretty well, was all the discutions with all people presents at the event, and all the contact that was made during the full 2 days and nights.

Never underestimate the power of networking during these kind of events.