[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[AlexGR]

Indeed, which is why I am asking (I'm a holder with DRK, but Cryptsy seems to be tricky with it).

Cryptsy is cryptsy. It always has issues.

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[toknormal]

All I want is investors to make the most informed decisions when investing their money.  Why invest in DRK when Evan himself says the anon feature is not complete nor did he ever promise 100% anon transfers? See proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7060893#msg7060893

Because technology is ten a penny.

It can be changed, revised, modified, new approaches adopted and refined as the project develops and the market knows that.

What can't be replaced or copied is:

[1] - the original inspiration behind the project

[2] - the will to make it succeed

[3] - to a large extent, the market investment

Having brought an asset into the top 5 market caps over a period, it isn't going to disinvest itself and re-invest in another en-masse unless it has a damn good reason to. People can bang on about the relative merits of technological approaches till the cows come home. But it isn't going to do jack unless it fundamentally affects the viability of the asset.

If all the developers on this project suddenly decide to up sticks and abandon it, people can start worrying. Until then, as long as there is a will and enough technical nouse around (which appears to now be on the increase as far as this project is concerned) there's no reason to do anything other than stay invested if you already are.

[candl]

XC Anon proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

XC Testnet block explorer from user terse-helper:
http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26yubh/block_explorer_for_yesterdays_test/

Can I download the wallet software used in the video? No, it's been provided only to "trusted" xc community members
Can I use that wallet software with my own coins? No, only on testnet according to the video.
Can I use the block explorer you've linked to? No, it's down.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

To summarize, for those coins devs mudslinging is easier than innovation ! Pay trolls to gain investors. I would not entrust a cent to someone with that mindset.

You should see the DRK trolls on XC's thread.  They are way worse.  At least I am spreading truth and sound reasoning.  The intelligence level of the trolls that you kids sent us is damn near insulting.

There are indeed trolls on XC's thread, but they were not "sent by us", any more than you were "sent by" the XC team. In fact there are XC people in your thread now telling you to shut up, as you're hurting your own coin with your spamming of this thread. No-one will support your coin if they think the best arguments for it is the ones you're currently putting forward.

[stealth923]

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.

Case closed. Thanks Evan.

Back on topic. Ignore trolls. Continue crypto domination.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

[coins101]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

[Kai Proctor]

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

+1

IMO that would be cool if you guys stop posting in the XC threads, official or not, the trolls are waiting for an excuse to deflect and spread FUD. Their investors are grown men and women and will take their responsibility if something goes wrong. I don't care.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

It's not meant to rival the other thread, it's there so that people can make points on XC that won't be removed, and to redirect people to from here when they won't STFU about XC. For a bit until that thread was started the DRK thread was becoming more like another XC thread.

[MrWHALE]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

It's not meant to rival the other thread, it's there so that people can make points on XC that won't be removed, and to redirect people to from here when they won't STFU about XC. For a bit until that thread was started the DRK thread was becoming more like another XC thread.

Great idea.  I'm going to make a DRK uncensored thread to discuss the 1.5m premine.  Not meant for FUD, just so that people can make points on DRK.  Thanks!

[TanteStefana2]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

If that's the case, why are we helping them?  Please ignore them, lets not help them con newbs into bag holders again.

[coins101]

I was on it the day you opened  

[coinzcoinzcoinz]

Quick question: I sent some BTC to a DRK address accidentally on Poloniex. BTC gone on Poloniex. The address does not exist on the BitCoin blockchain. Am I fucked?

[TanteStefana2]

Quick question: I sent some BTC to a DRK address accidentally on Poloniex. BTC gone on Poloniex. The address does not exist on the BitCoin blockchain. Am I fucked?

Crap, was it an old address of yours?  If you can't get to that wallet, it may be gone    See if Poloniex can pull it out for you?

Ugh, my Ubuntu crashed again...

[coins101]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

If that's the case, why are we helping them?  Please ignore them, lets not help them con newbs into bag holders again.

Hello, Mrs Robinson  

I was just trying to head off to go and finish a partly opened bottle of JD and wait for the price to go above 0.025.

Now you're here, I can smooch off in the confidence that you will take the trolls to task, should the need arise.

[Joshuar]

Quick question: I sent some BTC to a DRK address accidentally on Poloniex. BTC gone on Poloniex. The address does not exist on the BitCoin blockchain. Am I fucked?

That's odd, there should of been an error.

I accidentally did the same thing with ltc before.

Tried sending ltc to my bitcoin wallet from cryptsy, but it gave an Error, and it didn't send..

Try contacting poloniex staff, that shouldnt of happened

[MrWHALE]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

It's not meant to rival the other thread, it's there so that people can make points on XC that won't be removed, and to redirect people to from here when they won't STFU about XC. For a bit until that thread was started the DRK thread was becoming more like another XC thread.

It's sad that DRK supporters would have to make an "XC uncensored thread" --> this just goes to show how threatened DRK bagholders feel by XC.  Makes me laugh
#truth

[philipvdlinde]

Here you go, the link is up again and functioning as it should enjoy!
http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

[roede94105]

Guys maybe best to move the discussion to a non-moderated thread "why XC is a scam?"
Then we can talk Dark here.

There's an unmoderated XC thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.0

There is no interest....just looking for fuel for the pump

It's not meant to rival the other thread, it's there so that people can make points on XC that won't be removed, and to redirect people to from here when they won't STFU about XC. For a bit until that thread was started the DRK thread was becoming more like another XC thread.

trolling

You know the XC community is as reasonable as the DRK one and free to make their own educated choices?

So now the drk trolls are only hurting dark and the XC ones are only hurting XC. On the last 5 pages of each thread I've seen a few dark trolls over XC thread and you goddamn everywhere here, so you are hurting XC more than our trolls are hurting dark coin.

So thanks, I guess.

[coins101]

Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network


http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf


It's about real attacks on Bitcoins privacy (features), intresting read and insights and findings should/could help on making Darkcoin safer/securer, being still in the design phase, DRK could avoid some of Bitcoins faults .

If the results are replicated and verified by several others, this could be bad news for bitcoin.

any thoughts?