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[mulga]

holly mother of nodes....btc is rocking back to life

btc sees a 5x times rise from here, dragging everything along, drk at 5x from here is $55.....happy days.

I can see DRK at $50+ relatively soon but BTC at $3000? When the US bond market collapses, sure.

Tamas Blummer, Bits of Proof - Don't know
Jesse Powell, Kraken - $1,000,000
Prof Robin Reigland, Stockholm School of Economics - $1,300
Kirill Suslov, Tabtrader - $500
Johann Gevers, Monetas - $5,000
George Frost, Bitstamp - Can’t say
Anthony Gallippi, Bitpay - $1,160
Mary Beth Stanton, Heather Podesta and Partners - Higher than what I paid
Joel Gartner - $2000-$3000
Alakanani Itireleng, Bitcoin Botswana, $10,000
Jinyoung Lee Englund, Bitcoin Foundation - Not relevant
John Karamja, Whive, $2,000
J. Dax Hansen, Perkins Coie - No idea
Brian Klein, Baker Marquart LLP - Higher, but don't know where
Elizabeth Ploshay, Bitcoin Magazine - Doesn't matter
Thomas Voegtlin, Electrum - No comment
Joseph Cutler, Perkins Coie - Beginning to stabilize
Alexey Bragin - I am optimistic
Brian Fabian Crain, Epicenter Bitcoin - $2,000
Brian Armstrong, CoinBase - Going upwards
Lars Christensen, Saxobank - Don't know
Bobby Lee, BTC China - $500
Juan Llanos, Unidos Financial Services Inc - $500
Trace Mayer, Investor - really big
Laura Jeppson, Aoen Risk Solutions - $800
Dr. Marco Krohn, Genesis Mining - $2000-$3000
David Schwartz, Ripple labs - steady rise
Nahid Samsami, CoinBase - No comment
Erik Voorhees, Coinapult - $2,400
Rodrigo Batista, Mercado Bitcoin - $0 - $10000
Gavin Wood, Ethereum - $200-$800 or $900
Peter Todd, Mastercoin - between 0 and infinity
Mark van Cuijk, CoinQY - $2,000
Lasse Birk Olesen, Bitcoin Nordic - $4,000
Brock Pierce, Bitcoin Foundation - $1000-$5000
Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Foundation - bigger than now
David Irvine, Maidsafe - more interested in what you can do with bitcoin
Ron Gross, Mastercoin  - a few thousand dollars
Roger Ver, Memory Dealers - in the long term is going to be higher
Frank Schuil, Safello - $2,000
Marco Santori, Nesenoff and Miltenburg - Bitcoin has the power to change the world
Alan Safahi, Zip Zap - $500
Andreas Petersson, Mycelium - No idea
Jillian Friedman, Bitcoin Legal - $800
John Light, Cambrian - $1,000
Jon Matonis, Bitcoin Foundation - Logarithmic growth
Steve Beauregard, Gocoin - $600-$800
Gregory Simon, Cryptowerks - 2-3 times higher than today
Ravi Iyengar, Cointerra - higher
David Orban, Dotsub - Price to climb
Michael Terpin, Social Radius - $1000-$2400
Ron Gross, Mastercoin - $4,000
Martijn Wismeijr, MrBitcoin - I don't know
Sam Cole, KnCMiner - $2000-$3000
Edward, Cryptonit - $1000 at least
Patric Stiller, Baytrade Group - $1500-$2000
Kevin Beardsley, Bitcoin Foundation - As long as the community keeps growing
Alan Reiner, Armory Technologies - I don't make predictions.

Average price is two thousand and seventy-two dollars.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/111597/btc_to_break_2_000_mark_by_christmas_experts

Thanks for posting.

Good to see many of them were very conservative about their predictions, or refused to make one at all. I do agree that the price per BTC is far from the most interesting question here. What happens with the protocol as a whole is much more interesting. Didn't note who mentioned it, but i liked the comment about financial freedom/emancipation. Interesting to note that most people in Africa don't have access to a bank account, but do have mobile phones.

PS: I've always liked Alan Reiner (Armory) when i've seen him in vids. Seems like such a likable guy.

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[AlexGR]

It's fair to say DRK is a catalyst. It's Platinum to Bitcoin's gold - but it doesn't need to be marketed as such. The "Dark" element can stand on its own pretty well combined with a good anonymity system.

I actually really liked the 'Bitcoin Cousin' thing that came up in the media.

That makes it sound more like a relative than a competitor. That's PR gold 

Indeed... unless the "family" (bitcoin/ltc etc) denounces us for being the "black sheep"

I do remember saying that when the marketcap gets to $20m, we should start thinking about future rebranding....might have to push that back to $1bn, the media is loving the Dark side.

Personally I was certain they'd love the whole darkcoin thing. It "sells" as news.

[coins101]

I'm giving serious thought to offering escrow to help people set-up master nodes.

I keep hearing - I can't afford one, will never be able to get one, etc...that puts people off. That's not the main concern. My concern is that the perception of affordability leaves open the door to clones which begin to look like good value.

I have 10 mining rigs, plus another 3 PCs sitting around. So might be able to do a few private escrow wallet pools. Trust is the big issue. Am looking at technical challenges today.

Maybe if several people offered something similar, we might get people with 250 DRK to pool with others.  They operate the MN, escrow operates the wallet and weekly / bi-monthly pay outs.

edit - that does diminish the security aspect of MN. Affordability was one of the barriers to protect the network. So still undecided.

Thoughts welcome.

[droptable]

Average price is two thousand and seventy-two dollars.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/111597/btc_to_break_2_000_mark_by_christmas_experts

// little OffTopic, i know 

sorry to bring this up,
but the average has no value.

i do understand that media loves averages,
but in a (scientific/meaningful) discussion the average is pointless.
it can so easily be manipulated by individuals. // or single points in the distribution

if you want to tell me something about distribution,
give me the median.
Always give the median.

// nice figures, nevertheless  

[HiddenDark]

I'm giving serious thought to offering escrow to help people set-up master nodes.

I keep hearing - I can't afford one, will never be able to get one, etc...that puts people off. That's not the main concern. My concern is that the perception of affordability leaves open the door to clones which begin to look like good value.

I have 10 mining rigs, plus another 3 PCs sitting around. So might be able to do a few private escrow wallet pools. Trust is the big issue. Am looking at technical challenges today.

Maybe if several people offered something similar, we might get people with 250 DRK to pool with others.  They operate the MN, escrow operates the wallet and weekly / bi-monthly pay outs.

edit - that does diminish the security aspect of MN. Affordability was one of the barriers to protect the network. So still undecided.

Thoughts welcome.

Yes, it's a good idea and I'm sure there will be takers. Even if you don't do it, someone will eventually.

[droptable]

I'm giving serious thought to offering escrow to help people set-up master nodes.

I keep hearing - I can't afford one, will never be able to get one, etc...that puts people off. That's not the main concern. My concern is that the perception of affordability leaves open the door to clones which begin to look like good value.

I have 10 mining rigs, plus another 3 PCs sitting around. So might be able to do a few private escrow wallet pools. Trust is the big issue. Am looking at technical challenges today.

Maybe if several people offered something similar, we might get people with 250 DRK to pool with others.  They operate the MN, escrow operates the wallet and weekly / bi-monthly pay outs.

edit - that does diminish the security aspect of MN. Affordability was one of the barriers to protect the network. So still undecided.

Thoughts welcome.

i´ve given my thoughts,
and i would be happy to mine

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6928322#msg6928322

[chaeplin]

I'm giving serious thought to offering escrow to help people set-up master nodes.

I keep hearing - I can't afford one, will never be able to get one, etc...that puts people off. That's not the main concern. My concern is that the perception of affordability leaves open the door to clones which begin to look like good value.

I have 10 mining rigs, plus another 3 PCs sitting around. So might be able to do a few private escrow wallet pools. Trust is the big issue. Am looking at technical challenges today.

Maybe if several people offered something similar, we might get people with 250 DRK to pool with others.  They operate the MN, escrow operates the wallet and weekly / bi-monthly pay outs.

edit - that does diminish the security aspect of MN. Affordability was one of the barriers to protect the network. So still undecided.

Thoughts welcome.

Do hurry

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6814296#msg6814296

When DRK hits $100 a masternode will be worth 100,000 bucks
Who will risk running such a server besides security geniuses?

Could this become an issue. will future masternodes require less DRK?

Evan said he is not considering lowering the DRK requirement for masternode. 1000DRK is reasonable enough and will make the 51% attack harder in the end

What we need next is someone with some programming talent to make a site like a pool, but you buy shares of a masternode. So when masternodes are much more expensive, they could still be divided down to a reasonable level. This would also allow someone who was not computer savvy to invest in masternodes, which is optimal.

I suggest the software not be based on anything existing, so it could become a darkcoin advantage over the competition. It seems pretty simple though, you buy shares for 1DRK, then it has some screens for stats and it pays out dividends much like MPOS.

[Minotaur26]

I'm giving serious thought to offering escrow to help people set-up master nodes.

I keep hearing - I can't afford one, will never be able to get one, etc...that puts people off. That's not the main concern. My concern is that the perception of affordability leaves open the door to clones which begin to look like good value.

I have 10 mining rigs, plus another 3 PCs sitting around. So might be able to do a few private escrow wallet pools. Trust is the big issue. Am looking at technical challenges today.

Maybe if several people offered something similar, we might get people with 250 DRK to pool with others.  They operate the MN, escrow operates the wallet and weekly / bi-monthly pay outs.

edit - that does diminish the security aspect of MN. Affordability was one of the barriers to protect the network. So still undecided.

Thoughts welcome.

I dont think it diminishes the security aspect at all since you still need 1000DRK for a masternode.

[droptable]

Do hurry

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6814296#msg6814296

...so i was 6 days late.
evan is always ahead.
menno......

[StefanJ]

BUMP

Hey Darkies, X-men, trolls and all the other types who seem to be lurking around this thread.

Some other guy( I don't remember the name) came up with the idea to support Evan financially to create this amazing dev-team we've been talking about. After all it doesn't seem fair that he has so spend his own savings to make savings for us! I know some of you doesn't have alot of darks or btc either but I also see plain loaded users who should be busy munching plankton and setting out whalebait. A little will also do because as we say in Denmark: Mange bække små, gør en stor å (Many small creeks, create a large liver) I advice you guys to get this confirmed first before you throw you darks this way, just to get you use to having a sceptical attitude towards things like this. Just pm Evan and get him to confirm or maybe he could confirm in this thread. Either ways thanks and please help spread the word and let's get this devteam to kick some ass!

Message from eduffield:

Hey, thanks for this. I made a software development wallet that I'll use to support all of the developers. It's address is here: XpAy7r5RVdGLnnjWNKuB9EUDiJ5Tje9GZ8

Thanks!

And now a brief PSA:

Please always check the primary source where the donation address was originally posted before donating to this or any other cryptocurrency address.  Why?  Even if an address is accurately quoted at first (I haven't checked), it can always be edited maliciously later down the line, or it can fail to be updated even if Evan abandons the donation address/wallet.

I believe the original can be found here, but doublecheck for yourself:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6982496#msg6982496

I do not mean to impugn StefanJ's honor or reputation in any way.  He may be the most trustworthy man on the planet.  Just a PSA.

[eduffield]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

[chaeplin]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

Yes !!!


EDIT:

ohh nomp..

Have to learn..

[droptable]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

statum connection failed. (stratum pool)
// yes i opened an account on the testpool
// yes i edited my -u and -p

////p2p-pool works for me

[Donho]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

statum connection failed. (stratum pool)
// yes i opened an account on the testpool
// yes i edited my -u and -p

same here.
also would be nice to get precompiled forkfix-testnet darkcoind

[thelonecrouton]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

3MH on test p2pool now, hashing away.

[splawik21]

1    Bitcoin   $ 7,947,027,453   $ 619.09
2    Litecoin   $ 318,843,456   $ 11.05
3    Darkcoin   $ 52,733,769   $ 12.14
4    Nxt   $ 46,808,290   $ 0.046808
5    Peercoin   $ 45,744,698   $ 2.13

Dark is acting corrosively to the top altcoins.

Once DRK overtook DOGE, doge crashed from 100 satoshis to 50.

Ripple owner chose to sell.

PPC lost it's "next-to-LTC" position.

LTC prices are going down and down (0.021 -> 0.020 -> 0.019 -> 0.018 etc - as I had predicted it would happen). Instead of being BTC-on-steroids, it's losing money for BTC holders who bought it.

It's fair to say DRK is a catalyst. It's Platinum to Bitcoin's gold - but it doesn't need to be marketed as such. The "Dark" element can stand on its own pretty well combined with a good anonymity system.

BTC: The "gold"... The benchmark. The one constant that everyone goes to or uses as a measure. The property of gold is to be inert and resistant to corrosion for ages - as is Bitcoin. Altcoins come and go, altcoins evolve, Bitcoin stays the same and rules the market no matter what. Rich people hoard it, just like gold bars.

LTC: The "silver"... Silver is reflective and conductive (fast transfers). However it tarnishes over time and loses its "bling". It is also more abundant than gold (29m LTC vs 13m BTC). Silver coins are "brilliant" when exiting the mint but now we are in the tarnishing phase.

DRK: The "platinum"... Platinum is a catalyst and is used in specific applications for its catalytic properties. Doesn't corrode no matter what. It's also mined at much lesser quantities than gold (scarcer) at a ratio of 150 tons (platinum) to 2500 tons (gold) to 25000 tons (silver). Mining production and scarcity of DRK adequately positions it as the platinum. (4.4mn coins vs 13mn BTCs)

(warning: the above do not represent predictions for prices, just analogies of nature and cryptocurrencies)

Alex I like it. Nice comparison of the coins to the real mining of metals

[mulga]

look at that, it's 01:45 local time (AEST) on a Saturday night and Ev is still coding away solid work indeed

[dotnetmin]

I want to create a paperwallet from some DRK.
I tested creating a Paperwallat with some HIRO in case something goes wrong.

After creating a paperwallet and depostit HIRO from exchange to the wallet and i checked balance in the blockcahin.
All fine.

Than i did import the privkey into my first life wallet and get back the value into my lifewallet.
Than i import it into a second livewallet i also got the balance into the second one.
After check the first wallet coins are still in both wallets

What did i do wrong ? Looks like anybody who has the private key can use the coins.

Can somebody also try to import the privkey 6fA98bA5EDH7uKiztXnTdPdRB3WGxjb2Tpaybb7geebuKgcYvnL

I am a bit confused about all this

[chaeplin]

I want to create a paperwallet from some DRK.
I tested creating a Paperwallat with some HIRO in case something goes wrong.

After creating a paperwallet and depostit HIRO from exchange to the wallet and i checked balance in the blockcahin.
All fine.

Than i did import the privkey into my first life wallet and get back the value into my lifewallet.
Than i import it into a second livewallet i also got the balance into the second one.
After check the first wallet coins are still in both wallets

What did i do wrong ? Looks like anybody who has the private key can use the coins.

Can somebody also try to import the privkey 6fA98bA5EDH7uKiztXnTdPdRB3WGxjb2Tpaybb7geebuKgcYvnL

I am a bit confused about all this

Looks like anybody who has the private key can use the coins. : Correct.
So keep privkey safe.

One of backup method is dumping privkey and print it.

[sin242]

Can you help test?

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/help-test-rc2-forking-issues.1009/

pointed a rig at the p2p pool. 12.5mh to you