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[minerjav]

chaeplin for President

 

nice guy, when and where are the elections? I want to vote for him.

[aleix]

chaeplin for President

 

chaep is almost the third dev 

[MasterMined710]

Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network


http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf


It's about real attacks on Bitcoins privacy (features), intresting read and insights and findings should/could help on making Darkcoin safer/securer, being still in the design phase, DRK could avoid some of Bitcoins faults .

If the results are replicated and verified by several others, this could be bad news for bitcoin.

any thoughts?

have you seen this? i think it was you that was doing research on btc anonymity issues.

1. jeff garzik talking about ip tracking and other issues, i'm not sure he's 100% right though. thoughts?
 http://www.dailypaul.com/307063/bitcoin-developer-confirms-hes-working-for-the-us-government

2. i'm sure you've seen this but others may not have....

Bitcoin is often perceived as an anonymous payment network. But in reality, Bitcoin is probably the most transparent payment network in the world. At the same time, Bitcoin can provide acceptable levels of privacy when used correctly. Always remember that it is your responsibility to adopt good practices in order to protect your privacy.

Your IP address can be logged:

Because the Bitcoin network is a peer-to-peer network, it is possible to listen for transactions' relays and log their IP addresses. Full node clients relay all users' transactions just like their own. This means that finding the source of any particular transaction can be difficult and any Bitcoin node can be mistaken as the source of a transaction when they are not. You might want to consider hiding your computer's IP address with a tool like Tor so that it cannot be logged.
http://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy

[coins101]

chaeplin for President

 

chaep is almost the third dev 

President Chaeplin, or Mr President from now on.

+101

[coins101]

Deanonymisation of clients in Bitcoin P2P network


http://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.7418.pdf


It's about real attacks on Bitcoins privacy (features), intresting read and insights and findings should/could help on making Darkcoin safer/securer, being still in the design phase, DRK could avoid some of Bitcoins faults .

If the results are replicated and verified by several others, this could be bad news for bitcoin.

any thoughts?

have you seen this? i think it was you that was doing research on btc anonymity issues.

1. jeff garzik talking about ip tracking and other issues, i'm not sure he's 100% right though. thoughts?
 http://www.dailypaul.com/307063/bitcoin-developer-confirms-hes-working-for-the-us-government

2. i'm sure you've seen this but others may not have....

Bitcoin is often perceived as an anonymous payment network. But in reality, Bitcoin is probably the most transparent payment network in the world. At the same time, Bitcoin can provide acceptable levels of privacy when used correctly. Always remember that it is your responsibility to adopt good practices in order to protect your privacy.

Your IP address can be logged:

Because the Bitcoin network is a peer-to-peer network, it is possible to listen for transactions' relays and log their IP addresses. Full node clients relay all users' transactions just like their own. This means that finding the source of any particular transaction can be difficult and any Bitcoin node can be mistaken as the source of a transaction when they are not. You might want to consider hiding your computer's IP address with a tool like Tor so that it cannot be logged.
http://bitcoin.org/en/protect-your-privacy

Yeah, it was me....thanks for info. I have some of it.

When DRK starts moving north and approaching Litecoin, the mainstream media will want to know why, that would cause more headlines about bitcoin. So I figure they will need some ready made material.

BTC and DRK can live side-by-side, but the attention could shoot DRK to $1bn in a flash.

Well, that's what my 2 brain cells are thinking.

[Ozziecoin]

From my viewpoint: Litecoin was insurance against centralisation and govt co opting large data mining centres. Darkcoin is the same plus insurance against govt surveillance of crypto transactions.

[smophf7]

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.

Nor does he seem to understand the differences between a generic coinjoin implementation and Darksend (they are quite different, Mr. Whale).

Also, his "study" is straight up amateur hour as far as those sorts of usually go.  Someone should do some Internet sleuthing on its authors and origination.  At minimum the authors display a critical lack of understanding of Darksend's coinjoin modifications.  My hunch is that it's an intentional hit piece masquerading as objective research.

Let me rephrase that: I would be interested in knowing if there is any demonstrable connection between that "study" and any of DRK's competitor coins or communities. 

Don't go doxxing anybody for fuck's sake.

His "study" was quite hilarious! Show's he doesn't know anything.

[Sapereaude]

chaeplin for President

 

chaep is almost the third dev 

President Chaeplin, or Mr President from now on.

+101

He needs a secret service nickname too.. DarkEagle? DarkWave?

[Kai Proctor]

chaeplin for President

 

chaep is almost the third dev 

President Chaeplin, or Mr President from now on.

+101

He needs a secret service nickname too.. DarkEagle? DarkWave?

chaerlie

[MasterMined710]

From my viewpoint: Litecoin was insurance against centralisation and govt co opting large data mining centres. Darkcoin is the same plus insurance against govt surveillance of crypto transactions.

just a heads up, i will be reaching out to you soon to help with my mn setup. i'm almost there!

the only concern i have with the mn mixing solution is that if in the future the gov can make the isp shut them down similar to the problem centralized mining will face. i guess it would be amazon they would target but can't i/we just setup through tor on a server in a country or something that protects us?  is there already a work around or is this even an issue?
i was thinking they could subpoena the server and somehow spy but i think we are implementing some kind of ring sig type encryption so even if they tried to look they still could not see anything. and don't the darksends go through multiple nodes now or is that a planned future implementation. sorry for all the question.

[splawik21]

chaeplin for President

 

chaep is almost the third dev 

He is not almost...he is ... great team !
edit: and the price UP

[sin242]

So hows the testing going? We have enough hash to sort out the RC2 fork issue? Need more?

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[minerjav]

From my viewpoint: Litecoin was insurance against centralisation and govt co opting large data mining centres. Darkcoin is the same plus insurance against govt surveillance of crypto transactions.

good viewpoint.

[Ozziecoin]

From my viewpoint: Litecoin was insurance against centralisation and govt co opting large data mining centres. Darkcoin is the same plus insurance against govt surveillance of crypto transactions.

good viewpoint.

i think more investors will view darkcoin in that way over time. Centralisation and the bitcoin dev team thinking about playing robocop was one of the key reasons why litecoin's market cap increased so much.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Can someone more darkcoin-technical look at this? It's dressed up to look very respectable, was just posted to reddit and will likely be spammed lots by the next wave of trolls. We should have a response ready.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

[chaeplin]

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Random FUD

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.

[Kai Proctor]

Can someone more darkcoin-technical look at this? It's dressed up to look very respectable, was just posted to reddit and will likely be spammed lots by the next wave of trolls. We should have a response ready.

Read the past 10 pages ...

[Karlheinz1]

~

Random FUD

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.

XC dev says his multipath protocol takes care of this. Don't know how DRK dev can basically lie like this because unless he has seen the code he doesn't know how it works.

[Joshuar]

Why are there so many brand new Newbie accounts spamming XC? I'm sure they're all just one person. Lmao

Obvious XC bagholder trying to get rid of his stack..