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[bigrcanada]

Wow... Hey its your boys spamming on here! Maybe you should go home to forum and so some much needed work on our  shit... That's right I own the shit your supposed to be working on. And while Ur at it put a leash on them...

[coins101]

I could spend all day going over how fantastic a job Monero is doing, but, you know, real life happens rather than spending time trying to throw mud.

I'll leave the last word to the Monero developers:

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That said, it's simply not acceptable for us (to echo your words) to put lipstick on a pig and ship a GUI that is pleasant enough, but takes 4 days to sync from scratch, requires 6+gb of RAM, sucks a ton of bandwidth, and is accepted nearly nowhere.

We will deliver a proverbial work of art, but it requires building out parts of the foundation that we had previously viewed as less of a priority (until the 202612 attack). Oh, and we're doing it on like no money, so there's that.

Finally, a sensible comment and a dose of reality.

+101

The last time Monero shills got out of hand and started a mud slinging match, they ended up being attacked on a number of different levels. I don't advocate anything like that, but you'd think they would have learnt from the experience. But then again, desperation has a funny way of clouding people's judgement.

Give me a second while I compile the other devs view

edit

Is this even possible without a privatekey? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zrdxz/withdrawals_halted_as_stolen_evolution_coins_make/cplovwe?context=3

You can after-the-fact deanonymize ring signatures unfortunately with co-operation of one or more ring signature members. Leads to a lot of ugly situations that Zerocash resolves.

This is basically the issue described in MRL-0001. If you have a ring signature with 5 possible signers, and 4 of them come forward and prove it wasn't theirs, it must belong to the 5th.  

I don't really see the practical application of this, aside from the cascading failure scenarios described in that document of too much usage of mix=0 or mix=1 (which are addressed by the solution given in MRL-0004 of requiring a minimum mix factor). For example, if you are deliberately trying to trace transactions, how are you going to track down those four people given no other information? At that point all you have are one-time addresses on the blockchain. And then they still have to cooperate; if one or two decline, you're stuck. It is almost impossible and all that does is get you one output. To trace another output  (which will have a completely different set of mixes) you have to start over, find four different people, and get those four to cooperate. Then go on to the next output and start over again. Etc. And if somebody along the way decides to use a mix of 10 or 20 or 50, good luck!

The replies on reddit are essentially correct on this point. Of course Peter is also correct that zerocoin is "more anonymous" but in practice that last 1% may not matter, certainly compared to BTC at least.

Monero is like sitting in an old people's home. You know the writing is on every fucking wall, floor, ceiling and bed pan. Its just a matter of when.

[sangoku]

Why is the NSA involved in Monero?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

Good question, why ??

[Polycoin]

I am with a government.  Darkcoin has been penetrated since they launched.  They asked for it with names like Darkcoin, Darksend and Darkmarket.  Their forum here talks about money laundering, child porn and drugs.  We have people inside and their tech is riddled. Not just by us, there are lots of hyper paranoid countries out there. The  other three main anon coins are clean because they came from nowhere and no-one was ready. Make your own choices; however if you use Dark to buy/pay for something you shouldn't we might have the chance to "talk" personally one day.  My conscious is now clear.  I won't be posting again

im forrealz wondering if to sell darkcoin's hidden backdoor to someone.

[bigrcanada]

Dasher and prancer!  Obviously sdc is hurting so bad you have to be here... Instamined is now old news it doesn't mean shit to anyone... So now what Mr reindeer.

[Sub-Ether]

Smooth agrees, Zerocoin / Zerocash is better

They can't handle truth.

+101

+202
Feel like I'm stuck in one of them endlessly slow repeating recursive loops searching for a hash result in the most inefficient manner possible  

[Lukas_Jackson]

edit: no way. I won't read 20 pages?

In case you missed it, I'll repost it one time as the esteemed 'ignored' just don't seem to want to let up,
The coins101 link summed up the deliberately slow miners using extra wasteful iterations for me,
http://da-data.blogspot.de/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html
It has some doozies.  For example, on line 100, you might note that for every iteration through an inner loop repeated tens of thousands of times, the AES key is re-imported into the library.  The later loop, starting on line 113, is repeated half a million times, and is so abstracted through lots of memcpys and pointer manipulation it's hard to tell that all it really does is one round of AES encryption, a pointer dereference into a random scratchpad, a 64 bit multiplication, and another pointer dereference.  Phew.  This original code was roughly 50x slower than my final optimized code, and could have easily been used to fake two years of blockchain data on a single computer or a small cluster.  I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

Thanks
I think I read it the other day

[bigrcanada]

Right on - 28 trust level... Use extreme caution someone we should take advice from... Lol

[Sub-Ether]

Please don't check out my feedback before trading, I am so nice if you got to know the real me.

Now piss off back to your cave.

[smooth]

ShadowCash and ShadowMarket will take the Dark Markets by storm.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-race-for-the-first-decentralised-silk-road-is-on?utm_source=mbtwitter

Give up your circle jerk.

Haven't you heard. Darkcoin was never meant for dark markets. Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia

[sangoku]

ShadowCash and ShadowMarket will take the Dark Markets by storm.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-race-for-the-first-decentralised-silk-road-is-on?utm_source=mbtwitter

Give up your circle jerk.

Haven't you heard. Darkcoin was never meant for dark markets. Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia

So are you saying all it was meant for was a CIRCLEJERK?  Is it true?

It's possible to mine SDC ?

[jehst]

https://drk.mn/#mnlistdetail

I was looking at the DRK/Dash masternode list and noticed something strange. There's only a dozen or so masternodes with Chinese IP addresses.

Do you figure there are few Chinese users or is it because they all host their nodes remotely? Is the guide for setting up a masternode translated into Chinese? Germany has so many more nodes. China has barely more nodes than Bulgaria.

[Kai Proctor]

off topic : @coins101 some devices don't display the "ↄ" in your sig, so you are promoting something named "ashSend"  

[Lukas_Jackson]

The line was crossed when the Monero developers started throwing serious mud around.  Actually, if I were Evan I would have got a lawyer involved. Being actually called a scammer is seriously full of libel.

BTW do we know any moron dev by name? Are they all anonymous?
Guess what?

[anonymousxx1503]

This is what it feels like when trolls and devs of some shitcoins come here and try to diss Evan



He's MVP and you ain't getting the ball no matter how much you try.

[coins101]

off topic : @coins101 some devices don't display the "ↄ" in your sig, so you are promoting something named "ashSend"  

you stop buy cheap.

cheap. cheap. cheap. no good.

[AzzAz]

I think Evan should buy monero and shadowcash. But again so ugly names...

[whocares]

This is what it feels like when trolls and devs of some shitcoins come here and try to diss Evan



He's MVP and you ain't getting the ball no matter how much you try.

Oh no, give a different example...
I'm a RMFC supporter...  

smooth explained us that his role is as QA, so I'm not perceive him as a core dev   .

[TheDasher]

The line was crossed when the Monero developers started throwing serious mud around.  Actually, if I were Evan I would have got a lawyer involved. Being actually called a scammer is seriously full of libel.

BTW do we know any moron dev by name? Are they all anonymous?
Guess what?

First guess would be that you are a tool.  Am I right?

[coins101]

You see, simple minded idiots just go on ignore.