[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

1    Poloniex   DASH/BTC    $ 9,838   $ 2.34    34.48 %
2    Cryptsy   DASH/BTC    $ 7,842   $ 2.36    27.49 %
3    Bittrex   DASH/BTC    $ 2,902   $ 2.37    10.17 %
4    useCryptos   DASH/BTC    $ 2,738   $ 2.35    9.60 %
5    CEX.IO   DASH/BTC    $ 1,777   $ 2.37    6.23 %


Top 5 exchanges. I am giving a fought about useCryptos - they have no SEPA deposit fee and only 3 euro withdrawal fee! Could not be better!  Seems Ploniex is now number 1.

[_javi_]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

[ImI]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

frozen/delayed

[Lebubar]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

frozen/delayed

I personally removed all my fund yesterday successfully.
Apparently, good for me. I still have 1 free "fee" ticket  of the 3, so like BiteMyShinyMetalAss I'll find a new exchange home (not only for the recent story but for the 0.5% fee).

Mintpal ... Why oh why??! I miss you so much! lol

[TanteStefana2]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

frozen/delayed

I personally removed all my fund yesterday successfully.
Apparently, good for me. I still have 1 free "fee" ticket  of the 3, so like BiteMyShinyMetalAss I'll find a new exchange home (not only for the recent story but for the 0.5% fee).

Mintpal ... Why oh why??! I miss you so much! lol

Alas, I'm not the only one who misses Mintpal, eh?   

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

1    Poloniex   DASH/BTC    $ 9,838   $ 2.34    34.48 %
2    Cryptsy   DASH/BTC    $ 7,842   $ 2.36    27.49 %
3    Bittrex   DASH/BTC    $ 2,902   $ 2.37    10.17 %
4    useCryptos   DASH/BTC    $ 2,738   $ 2.35    9.60 %
5    CEX.IO   DASH/BTC    $ 1,777   $ 2.37    6.23 %


Top 5 exchanges. I am giving a fought about useCryptos - they have no SEPA deposit fee and only 3 euro withdrawal fee! Could not be better!  Seems Ploniex is now number 1.

On the other hand, it turns out useCryptos dont accept euro deposits anymore due to the bank issues...

[espressodelisi]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

İ get my 102dash yeaterday. İt was faster than i upgrade and sync my local wallet.

[ImI]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

İ get my 102dash yeaterday. İt was faster than i upgrade and sync my local wallet.

how long did you have to wait?

[espressodelisi]

Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

İ get my 102dash yeaterday. İt was faster than i upgrade and sync my local wallet.

how long did you have to wait?

İ had to download and upgrade my 30 days old wallet and after sync finished my dash was arrived .

[qwizzie]

There's some minor issue with the budget this month, I think we need to manually push the finalized budget through. Can everyone with masternodes use this to vote?

mnfinalbudget vote-many 889434069cf006fa7acba96e8b823d416ed2809ea5abdc6d762df9cf56d98740

"main" : {
        "FeeTX" : "86d32ec608f0643293a3b90cc6e2318a141b1ed636ca21bacb3f104905ba0113",
        "Hash" : "889434069cf006fa7acba96e8b823d416ed2809ea5abdc6d762df9cf56d98740",
        "BlockStart" : 348936,
        "BlockEnd" : 348942,
        "Proposals" : "public-awareness,core-team,electrum-pt-2,website-pt-1,Tennis_Reimbursement,foundation-pt-2,liquidity-provider",
        "VoteCount" : 183,
        "Status" : "OK",
        "IsValid" : true,
        "IsValidReason" : ""
    },

I'd look into it more, but I'm sitting in the airport lobby in Amsterdam... kind of busy  

Voted through hot wallet with : ./dash-cli mnfinalbudget vote 889434069cf006fa7acba96e8b823d416ed2809ea5abdc6d762df9cf56d98740
Voted successfull using dash.conf

(did it this way with all my masternodes, no problems found)

[dEBRUYNE]

FWIW: Cryptsy feed is broken here again.

[kointrend]

Oops...3283 MNs 

[toknormal]

****************** Bitcoin's Vanishing Nodes ******************

Have a look at this.

https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/incentive/

This is Bitcoin's equivalent of an incentivised masternode policy - except for Bitcoin full nodes which do no more than serve up the blockchain. They offer no complimentary diversified protocol logic like a masternode does.

It basically amounts to a third party corporate body (1 guy and his pocket money actually) running a lottery for full nodes, with a prize of $10-$30 a week if your the lucky node. At the moment there are 177 Eligible nodes, that means you have a 1/177 = 0.5% chance of winning 0.08 BTC in a given week. Now they're getting support from 21 Inc - one of the high venture funding bitcoin startups. (No prizes for guessing why they're fundng it - the words "turkeys", "christmas" and "please save my $116M venture capital" spring to mind).

http://www.coindesk.com/21-inc-pledges-support-to-bitcoins-vanishing-nodes/

Don't get me wrong - I think it's good that somebody's concerned and trying ot do something about the 12% per year dwindling full node population, but the utter futility of this approach surely shows you what Bitcoin's up against while simultaneously demonstrating the elegance of fully incentivised, decentralised masternode network. (For a start, you don't have a 0.5% chance of getting the 'reward' each week, you have a 100% chance).

So much for decentralisation. Bitcoin's nodes are now on life support from a $116 million bunch of venture capitalists. Next it's going to be life support from payment channels cos the blocks are getting full.

My cynicism isn't because I want to attack bitcoin or to see it die - I want to see it succeed. But it unambigiously vindicates the priorities that Dash has made and for which it has taken flack from all quarters throughout its lifetime - including the bitcoin devs themselves. Maybe some need to start tending to their own backyard first.

[toknormal]

Oops...3283 MNs  

Secondary effect of the recent price decline (currency market shrinkage).....



See.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12549331#msg12549331

....then notice the primary effect of a masternode increase - and sure enough we also got the reflationary price boost. (I'm sure it won't always work as perfectly as that but lets enjoy a perfect moment of theory-meets-practice for once   )

[Bridgewater]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/europes-highest-court-strikes-down-safe-harbour-data-sharing-between-eu-and-us/

I expect to see a lot more damage done to U.S. software providers in the years to come. I don't blame the EU...if I was them, I wouldn't want my data going to the U.S. either, since NSA has proven that it can't be trusted to follow the rules.

I actually see this as a net negative for the users. It is akin to government putting up large physical borders to keep people from coming in or getting OUT.  It keeps the powerful on top, in a position to manipulate the ones behind their wall while maintaining the exclusive ability to deal with other countries with similarly manipulated citizens.

Large companies like Facebook and Google that have a network of trusting users across many countries are in effect taking power away from government.  Governments are especially afraid of companies like Uber, which effectively governs outside of any physical jurisdiction.  It is not decentralized like Dash, but it is at least a shining example of the global free market at work, which would not be possible without a free and borderless internet.

Even more fundamentally wrong about this is the idea that "online data" can be contained to a physical location.  People need to understand that any information you put on the internet cannot be expected to be private.  You can entrust it to one of these big online companies--er governments, thereby making them more powerful like I said above. But really people need to understand the power of their own information and start being more responsible for their own data.

Connecting a computer full of important information on it to the internet is like putting your precious valuables on a table in a crowded public park.  There is no such thing as evil hackers.  Your stuff is just out there, and someone who searches park benches for money and finds your 10 euro note cannot be blamed for your irresponsibility.  So it is weird, I actually don't blame the NSA. Just as the crazy central bankers are driving more people towards cryptocurrency, the NSA is also forcing the issue by simply being the biggest "hacker" on earth. Their actions serve to remind people to start taking personal responsibility for their information (by using proper encryption and best practices for privacy), and money--by using Dash, of course!

[Lebubar]

(I'm sure it won't always work as perfectly as that but lets enjoy a perfect moment of theory-meets-practice for once   )

[iCEBREAKER]

Sorry bro, I just don't understand you.....

Maybe this will help...

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I'm flattered you all care so much about what I think.

But as your posts are not about (and don't even mention) Dash, they are off-topic.

Sorry about that.

[iCEBREAKER]

Just so you guys know, I'm from the xmr community and I have icebreaker on ignore too.

lol
nice
welcome to the club

I do care about what you think.

Like, why do you care so much about Dash?
Why do you care what people do with their money?
Why do you even waste your time on here?
Why do you think anybody will listen to you?

I could give two shits what people invest in.  If I don't like it and they do, why would I waste any energy on telling them multiple times daily how crappy I think whatever they are spending their money on is.  Most people just stop listening and then if you keep on bugging them they end up treating you as if you don't even exist...

Sorry bro, I just don't understand you.

Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

For some mentally ill people, trolling is enjoyable. They feel good and happy trolling here every day.
The article is very descriptive of this behaviour. 

I'm flattered you all care so much about what I think.  No need to play coy and tell me you don't, but then ask questions demonstrating you do.

Why not just admit Dash is a scam, and that you all would prefer to be left alone to scam in peace?

[Jestah]

Got my Gemini invite, anyone else?

[toknormal]

Got my Gemini invite, anyone else?

Did you have to cough up $3k USD for it ?