[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[bigrcanada1]

The "trolls" are with Dash, not it's detractors. The "cess-pool" is the Dash community, not BCT. They are projecting. To the decent people of crypto: don't believe their lies.

Exactly all of us DASH members are liars and filthy filthy scum bags... We are truly horrible... The DASH community over at our DASH Nation is so So evil.  Don't go there.. Its truly terrible... Full of us terrible DASHers.  

[bamsterdam]

Normally I only read this tread but I must say this time I find it shocking to see how much 'troll' posts there are on this tread lately. I really cant understand how you will put so much time into posting so much negativity. Day after day. Or try to prove your some genius trader with big stacks so their troll posts got more credibility or something  

Seems to me most of them are just some children, they act like them anyway, if not its even more sad. I sorta respect icy cause he comes most of the time with constructive negative info on dash he quotes things from years back he always seems to find it haha and he has his manners although he also seems to seize like every opportunity he sees to mark dash as a scam even things where he seems so biased that it damages his own credibility imo. I must say I often wondered if he dont have anything better to do after all this years haha you really are on a crusade here icy with the new signatures wauw  

I get that for a lot of people the instamine is a issue thats why I originally didnt bought any drk when it was around a $. instamine or premine was a no go back in the days after there were to many scams. But when I saw the development going and after the first big pump and dump I jumped aboard at the 2.5-5$ range. Glad I did.

When xmr had its fisrt major pump to 13+$(it was epic I was glad haha) it crashed to something like 5$ in the weeks after before it was going back up again so all the people screaming its because of the instamine that dash is falling is so unjustified imo. It happens all the time with big pumps there are always big dumps, look at ripple last days. there are plenty of examples.

Everyone has to decide for there self how big of a problem the instamine is for them, for me I dont believe it was a accident but still bought a lot of drk back in the day because I thought this was a big motivation for evan to really make something out of it. I came to believe after some time that he didnt do it just to dump on the first, second of third opportunity he got, but to really make something out of drk and create something awesome and at the same time becoming a fat millionaire. He had the vision and the skills to do so. I took a risk by buying drk and gladly it paid of but I took the instamine in consideration when I bought the coin which was a much bigger problem then then it is now imo since there have been plenty of opportunities for people who where involved in the instamine to dump they're coins. Some of them have, maybe some of them still didnt. You should calculate it in the risks of this crypto every coin has his own pros and cons.

All those people screaming it is a scam over and over again should grow up and learn for the future to give your opinion, defend it some more in a constructive way but dont start to act like some spoiled teenage child who didnt gets his way and start to say things over and over and over again.

I know the trolls wont stop just wanted to say my own opinion on the matter for once

Diversify your investments  

cheers everyone

ps: for new members better read on the dash forum for information

[bigrcanada1]

Normally I only read this tread but I must say this time I find it shocking to see how much 'troll' posts there are on this tread lately. I really cant understand how you will put so much time into posting so much negativity. Day after day. Or try to prove your some genius trader with big stacks so their troll posts got more credibility or something  

Seems to me most of them are just some children, they act like them anyway, if not its even more sad. I sorta respect icy cause he comes most of the time with constructive negative info on dash he quotes things from years back he always seems to find it haha and he has his manners although he also seems to seize like every opportunity he sees to mark dash as a scam even things where he seems so biased that it damages his own credibility imo. I must say I often wondered if he dont have anything better to do after all this years haha you really are on a crusade here icy with the new signatures wauw  

I get that for a lot of people the instamine is a issue thats why I originally didnt bought any drk when it was around a $. instamine or premine was a no go back in the days after there were to many scams. But when I saw the development going and after the first big pump and dump I jumped aboard at the 2.5-5$ range. Glad I did.

When xmr had its fisrt major pump to 13+$(it was epic I was glad haha) it crashed to something like 5$ in the weeks after before it was going back up again so all the people screaming its because of the instamine that dash is falling is so unjustified imo. It happens all the time with big pumps there are always big dumps, look at ripple last days. there are plenty of examples.

Everyone has to decide for there self how big of a problem the instamine is for them, for me I dont believe it was a accident but still bought a lot of drk back in the day because I thought this was a big motivation for evan to really make something out of it. I came to believe after some time that he didnt do it just to dump on the first, second of third opportunity he got, but to really make something out of drk and create something awesome and at the same time becoming a fat millionaire. He had the vision and the skills to do so. I took a risk by buying drk and gladly it paid of but I took the instamine in consideration when I bought the coin which was a much bigger problem then then it is now imo since there have been plenty of opportunities for people who where involved in the instamine to dump they're coins. Some of them have, maybe some of them still didnt. You should calculate it in the risks of this crypto every coin has his own pros and cons.

All those people screaming it is a scam over and over again should grow up and learn for the future to give your opinion, defend it some more in a constructive way but dont start to act like some spoiled teenage child who didnt gets his way and start to say things over and over and over again.

I know the trolls wont stop just wanted to say my own opinion on the matter for once

Diversify your investments  

cheers everyone

ps: for new members better read on the dash forum for information

It's pointless with the DASH loving trolls. As you know it's all about trying to create noise for their own pump group activities.  I just roll my eyes after 3 years and Yawn... And mock them. Lol. It's rather humorous.

[Kryptowerk]

The Dash bubble explained by Tone Vays (obviously a little self centered, but still... good explanation):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR6ANuMPNIg#t=56m10s

[tungfa]

DashPay Demo | Russian Billboard | Job Call -- DASH: Detailed
https://youtu.be/Z03lcaJItoI

[jiggytom]

BTC goes up, DASH goes down. Please don't try to take credit for that.

[TanteStefana2]

BTC goes up, DASH goes down. Please don't try to take credit for that.

Does anyone really think an attention seeking braggart is for real?  It's just trying to see who it can get to send it coins to steal.  Is it really necessary to answer it?  It's probably some school kid, the way it acts.  Answering it only encourages it.

[HR]

Hate and only hate I read.
Citing Icey? Man you can do better.

You guys don't have the slightest clue.

[HR]

The "trolls" are with Dash, not it's detractors. The "cess-pool" is the Dash community, not BCT. They are projecting. To the decent people of crypto: don't believe their lies.

Exactly all of us DASH members are liars and filthy filthy scum bags... We are truly horrible... The DASH community over at our DASH Nation is so So evil.  Don't go there.. Its truly terrible... Full of us terrible DASHers.  

Not all of you are horrible.

Most of you are marks.

[HR]

Normally I only read this tread but I must say this time I find it shocking to see how much 'troll' posts there are on this tread lately. I really cant understand how you will put so much time into posting so much negativity. Day after day. Or try to prove your some genius trader with big stacks so their troll posts got more credibility or something  

Come on. Give me a break. Talking about the facts is negativity? Oh, I guess you're right about that when the facts give you a black eye (or much worse as in this case).

Seems to me most of them are just some children, they act like them anyway, if not its even more sad. I sorta respect icy cause he comes most of the time with constructive negative info on dash he quotes things from years back he always seems to find it haha and he has his manners although he also seems to seize like every opportunity he sees to mark dash as a scam even things where he seems so biased that it damages his own credibility imo. I must say I often wondered if he dont have anything better to do after all this years haha you really are on a crusade here icy with the new signatures wauw  

Anything better to do than share the hard core reality at the core of this business by comparing a floozy with a winner. for example? (see below)

I get that for a lot of people the instamine is a issue thats why I originally didnt bought any drk when it was around a $. instamine or premine was a no go back in the days after there were to many scams. But when I saw the development going and after the first big pump and dump I jumped aboard at the 2.5-5$ range. Glad I did.

Good for you. Now don't you think everyone should have the same opportunity to make their own decision based on all the facts? Or do you think it's better to do all that's possible to hide the warts?

When xmr had its fisrt major pump to 13+$(it was epic I was glad haha) it crashed to something like 5$ in the weeks after before it was going back up again so all the people screaming its because of the instamine that dash is falling is so unjustified imo. It happens all the time with big pumps there are always big dumps, look at ripple last days. there are plenty of examples.

Sorry, I lost you on that one.

Everyone has to decide for there self how big of a problem the instamine is for them, for me I dont believe it was a accident but still bought a lot of drk back in the day because I thought this was a big motivation for evan to really make something out of it. I came to believe after some time that he didnt do it just to dump on the first, second of third opportunity he got, but to really make something out of drk and create something awesome and at the same time becoming a fat millionaire. He had the vision and the skills to do so. I took a risk by buying drk and gladly it paid of but I took the instamine in consideration when I bought the coin which was a much bigger problem then then it is now imo since there have been plenty of opportunities for people who where involved in the instamine to dump they're coins. Some of them have, maybe some of them still didnt. You should calculate it in the risks of this crypto every coin has his own pros and cons.  

You repeat yourself. They say that if you repeat something enough, it ends up being accepted as truth. Again I ask: don't you think everyone should have the same opportunity to make their own decision based on all the facts? Or do you think it's better that all newcomers only have the "official happy people" version that's been repeated over and over again? What do you think is fair to them?

All those people screaming it is a scam over and over again should grow up and learn for the future to give your opinion, defend it some more in a constructive way but dont start to act like some spoiled teenage child who didnt gets his way and start to say things over and over and over again.  

So just repeat the "official shinny happy people" version over and over again and censor any dissent? Are you from the U.S.? Do you have any idea what a free democracy is founded on?

I know the trolls wont stop just wanted to say my own opinion on the matter for once

Good of you to do so, and it would also be good if you respected the contributions of people who disagree with you, especially when we're taking about something that is so important for newcomers.

Diversify your investments  

Good advice, and I still recommend close inspection and not blind dart throwing, and to absolutely stay away from pipe dreams.

cheers everyone

ps: for new members better read on the dash forum for information

Great place to limit yourself to the smoke and mirrors mirage, but if you feel the need, that's the best place for you.

[HR]

It's not just the instamine. That was just an appetizer to see if it was possible to get some constructive dialogue going with some semblance of professionalism and seriousness when it came to the explanations and answers. It's not just about the instamine; it's about everything!

Instead of raging and screaming about some giant conspiratorial "well organized scheme" let's consider the fundamentals which differentiate Litecoin from Dash.


Litecoin is much older and has a more powerful/secure ASIC PoW network than Dash.

Litecoin keeps up to date with hot new features like SEGWIT, while Dash can't even keep up with RBF/CPFP and breaks simple yet crucial things like IPv6 compatibility.

Litecoin is going to have working payment channels like Lightning soon, thanks to SEGWIT.  That means InstantX, Masternodes, and Evolution are obsolete digital trash.

Litecoin's creator has DNA from MIT & Google, while Dash's has a sketchy background in finance and a 2 year mail-order degree in web marketing from University of Phoenix.

Litecoin's cobblee does not shill for and pump LTC; Dash's Duffield frequently advertises his project as a legitimate investment without disclosing the risks involved.

Litecoin was not 20% Instamined in the first 2 days; Dash was.  Litecoin never cut total emission to further enrich early miners; Dash did.

Litecoin does not require trusted 3rd party security holes; Dash makes SlaveNode users the playthings of Masternode Ponzi participants.

Litecoin doesn't have to keep changing its name like a disgraced over-diluted pink sheet stock; Dash does.

Litecoin is supported by Coinbase and Kraken; Dash is considered a scam and despised by most of the crypto community, and thus will never trade on those exchanges.

Litecoin prioritizes technology over marketing; Dash does the opposite.

Litecoin has a bus factor >>1.  Dash keeps losing devs who get wise to Evan 'The Instaminer' Scamfield's long con:

Come on. Give it a shot and start showing with facts just what there is in this litany that is incorrect.

[Whysmh4dash]

I love this thread. As a spectator the variety here is phenomenal and the compilation of various opinions and views are rich and plenty! If this was an ocean there would be many sharks 🦈 and very little fish 🐟. The obvious whale 🐳 but mostly enthusiasts from both sides of the spectrum. Personally watching the commentary is like watching spiders 🕷 and flies! People with this or that opinion are obsessed with being right to the point that they seem small in thier knowledge and those that may know more remain right in silencet... it's great to read and I wish other forums where as active. Hence why I chose to  say hello here in this thread as a first timer! I will adapt my views over time but you will never take my freedom to choose.

I'm glad this forum exists as it truely represents the views of many! Good luck dash I hope your developments lead you to places undiscovered!

Popcorn talk 🍿

[AzzAz]

It's not just the instamine. That was just an appetizer to see if it was possible to get some constructive dialogue going with some semblance of professionalism and seriousness when it came to the explanations and answers. It's not just about the instamine; it's about everything!

Instead of raging and screaming about some giant conspiratorial "well organized scheme" let's consider the fundamentals which differentiate Litecoin from Dash.


Litecoin is much older and has a more powerful/secure ASIC PoW network than Dash.
Yes and chinese miners are pumping it now. To sell on newcomers.
Litecoin keeps up to date with hot new features like SEGWIT, while Dash can't even keep up with RBF/CPFP and breaks simple yet crucial things like IPv6 compatibility.
first we have to see it working.
Litecoin is going to have working payment channels like Lightning soon, thanks to SEGWIT.  That means InstantX, Masternodes, and Evolution are obsolete digital trash.
LN, SEGWIT, it is for BTC. And when BTC get it, who will need LTC?
Litecoin's creator has DNA from MIT & Google, while Dash's has a sketchy background in finance and a 2 year mail-order degree in web marketing from University of Phoenix.
Litecoin creator comments DASH (very negatively) and DASH creator NEVER go that low.
Litecoin's cobblee does not shill for and pump LTC; Dash's Duffield frequently advertises his project as a legitimate investment without disclosing the risks involved.
This is too stupid to answer
Litecoin was not 20% Instamined in the first 2 days; Dash was.  Litecoin never cut total emission to further enrich early miners; Dash did.
Well, Coblee SOLD his 400 000 LTCs.  Evan GAVE his 200 000 DASHs. Emision cut is DEFLATORY tool. And we wanted it that way.
Litecoin does not require trusted 3rd party security holes; Dash makes SlaveNode users the playthings of Masternode Ponzi participants.
Masternode sistem is genial idea copied by many many coins. Be careful when use Ponzi word. Don't lie. Litecoin has nothing to copy.
Litecoin doesn't have to keep changing its name like a disgraced over-diluted pink sheet stock; Dash does.
Again: Coblee does not comunicate to community, Evan does, alot. That is how name is changed. And we wanted it that way ( again).
Litecoin is supported by Coinbase and Kraken; Dash is considered a scam and despised by most of the crypto community, and thus will never trade on those exchanges.
Coble is working @ coinbase. Interestingly, LTC suported and DASH not there. Again careful with "scam" word, don't lie.
Litecoin prioritizes technology over marketing; Dash does the opposite.
Nothing done on code for years @LTC, and you say "prioritize"? Again, Coblee made LTC then soon DUMPED his 400 000 LTC stash and said he will not work on it PUBLICLY.
Truth is he did not wor on anything for years. Lately he did put effort to integrate LTC @ coinbase. And that is prioritisinh MARKETING over technology. Don't twist...
Litecoin has a bus factor >>1.  Dash keeps losing devs who get wise to Evan 'The Instaminer' Scamfield's long con:
Explain that "bus factor >>1", who, where, what? And with DASH is KNOWN team, larger every day, paid good and working hard. Those (you mean Vertoe? ) who left can cry now. They sold their stash for pennies. I bought some then.
And how you call Evan speaks more about you.
try not to lie and twist facts.

Come on. Give it a shot and start showing with facts just what there is in this litany that is incorrect.

And for you: So much hate coming from you "kind" words...don't bother to hide it.
All facts are @ this tread from page one to here. Well it would be easier to read if trolling was less....

[Instamined]

The "trolls" are with Dash, not it's detractors. The "cess-pool" is the Dash community, not BCT. They are projecting. To the decent people of crypto: don't believe their lies.

Exactly all of us DASH members are liars and filthy filthy scum bags... We are truly horrible... The DASH community over at our DASH Nation is so So evil.  Don't go there.. Its truly terrible... Full of us terrible DASHers.  

I don't dislike the people who bought DASH and profited. I don't hate the userbase as a whole.


I hate the coin and the developer Evan Duffield who committed a prosecute-able crime.

[Walter_S]

The "trolls" are with Dash, not it's detractors. The "cess-pool" is the Dash community, not BCT. They are projecting. To the decent people of crypto: don't believe their lies.

Exactly all of us DASH members are liars and filthy filthy scum bags... We are truly horrible... The DASH community over at our DASH Nation is so So evil.  Don't go there.. Its truly terrible... Full of us terrible DASHers.  

I don't dislike the people who bought DASH and profited. I don't hate the userbase as a whole.


I hate the coin and the developer Evan Duffield who committed a prosecute-able crime.

That's a pretty serious allegation... Do you have any legal grounds to back up your assertion? Which crime(s) in particular did he commit?

Walter

[UdjinM6]

Anyone know if is possible to manage the MNs from the trezor, or if there is any plan for that?
Thanks

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/gui-tool-for-running-masternode-with-trezor.13748/

[gerhard]

We need to start calling these trolls "Crypto Justice Warriors." From what I can tell they feel it's NOT FAIR that Evan through his ingenuity and hard work created all these millionaires. Maybe if he did this while working at Goldman Sachs it would be ok?

I sincerely hope these CJWs are being paid to do this and are not just doing this out of the badness of their hearts.

[dafdaf]

I hate the coin and the developer Evan Duffield who committed a prosecute-able crime.

Where are the victims?

[bigrcanada1]

We need to start calling these trolls "Crypto Justice Warriors." From what I can tell they feel it's NOT FAIR that Evan through his ingenuity and hard work created all these millionaires. Maybe if he did this while working at Goldman Sachs it would be ok?

I sincerely hope these CJWs are being paid to do this and are not just doing this out of the badness of their hearts.

All of the trolls are all members of the larger pump & dump crews.  This whole crypto ecosystem is a play ground for all these guys.  They pretend to care and doing this to warn "people" of the terrible things of this or that.  Its all bullshit.  Its very well planned strategies of fud and market manipulation that is being fueled by market movers.  Its all a smoke screen for a much bigger plan.

Its so transparent that its comical.  The only victims are those investors that are unsophisticated and are left holding bags of all sorts of coins these scum bags manipulated, all the while pretending that they CARE about fundamentals...the law and justice.  Its all BULLSHIT! Be careful investors.  

Even in the markets like DASH today..

1500 BTC in numerous buy positions on for several hours to make people believe there is buy support...then boom, the buy positions disappear.   and the dumping starts.  Yawn!  So predictable its becoming boring.

[HR]

We need to start calling these trolls "Crypto Justice Warriors." From what I can tell they feel it's NOT FAIR that Evan through his ingenuity and hard work created all these millionaires. Maybe if he did this while working at Goldman Sachs it would be ok?

I sincerely hope these CJWs are being paid to do this and are not just doing this out of the badness of their hearts.

All of the trolls are all members of the larger pump & dump crews.  This whole crypto ecosystem is a play ground for all these guys.  They pretend to care and doing this to warn "people" of the terrible things of this or that.  Its all bullshit.  Its very well planned strategies of fud and market manipulation that is being fueled by market movers.  Its all a smoke screen for a much bigger plan.

Its so transparent that its comical.  The only victims are those investors that are unsophisticated and are left holding bags of all sorts of coins these scum bags manipulated, all the while pretending that they CARE about fundamentals...the law and justice.  Its all BULLSHIT! Be careful investors.  

Even in the markets like DASH today..

1500 BTC in numerous buy positions on for several hours to make people believe there is buy support...then boom, the buy positions disappear.   and the dumping starts.  Yawn!  So predictable its becoming boring.

Paranoia is another telling symptom of denial. There's nothing of the sort that's become "so predictable". Get a grip.

@AzzAz, nice try with your response to the various issues listed by iCEBREAKER, but I was sincerely hoping for something a little more serious and a little less prejudiced.