[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[holydarkness]

BTW, I just noticed those little logos under the nic. So Icey not only became legendary by trolling this thread but also a "Dash Master"? Priceless...

It seems that was part of april fools by the moderators, there are a lot of topics about this on meta, even theymos claimed that they implemented some AI to connect all of your alt account then represent what the alt mostly talk about on symbols. Part of a good joke, really.

Although I must say that if they keep this system, it'll be great, to know which coin a user talk about thr most and be reflected on his profile.

[qwizzie]

eh, i just want to say for the record i'm not Monero's CEO... because if i was i would make a lot of changes right now for Monero and their community.

[volyova]

BTW, I just noticed those little logos under the nic. So Icey not only became legendary by trolling this thread but also a "Dash Master"? Priceless...

It seems that was part of april fools by the moderators, there are a lot of topics about this on meta, even theymos claimed that they implemented some AI to connect all of your alt account then represent what the alt mostly talk about on symbols. Part of a good joke, really.

Although I must say that if they keep this system, it'll be great, to know which coin a user talk about thr most and be reflected on his profile.

Thank-you, Grand Poobah  

[volyova]

eh, i just want to say for the record i'm not a Monero CEO...

This guy's a double-agent 

[iCEBREAKER]

eh, i just want to say for the record i'm not Monero's CEO... because if i was i would make a lot of changes right now for Monero and their community.

What changes?  Would you Instamine 20% of Monero and give Evan 256,000 of them?

Or destroy its fungibility so Coinfirm can track all Monero users like farm animals?

Or would you put in Masternodes without blinding them so users have to trust the cabal of whales and Instaminers are not spying on them?

[MasterMined710]

eh, i just want to say for the record i'm not Monero's CEO... because if i was i would make a lot of changes right now for Monero and their community.

What changes?  Would you Instamine 20% of Monero and give Evan 256,000 of them?

LOL, Stop lying icey. The Dash instamine/fastmine is about 10% of the total coin supply. Very similar to your monero/bitmonero/MRO/BMR/XMR Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmined issue that did not mine at "the scheduled emission rate" according to your dev, the one that came in after the original monero scam dev that was kicked out.

"It was said that this coin (xmr/monero) had a mining reward schedule similar to bitcoin. In fact it is twice as fast as intended, even even a bit more than twice as fast as bitcoin.
If you acquired your coins on the basis of the advertised reward schedule, you would be disappointed, and rightfully so, as more coins come to into existence more quickly than you were led to believe." Smooth, monero/xmr. Dev



Both Dash and monero were more distributed than the satoshimine, the 1 million+ he did not spend. But good for him, he deserves it. I just hope he does not decide to dump before btc is priced in Dash instead of Dash being priced in btc. 

[volyova]

eh, i just want to say for the record i'm not Monero's CEO... because if i was i would make a lot of changes right now for Monero and their community.

What changes?  Would you Instamine 20% of Monero and give Evan 256,000 of them?

LOL, Stop lying icey. The Dash instamine/fastmine is about 10% of the total coin supply. Very similar to your monero/bitmonero/MRO/BMR/XMR Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmined issue that did not mine at "the scheduled emission rate" according to your dev, the one that came in after the original monero scam dev that was kicked out.

"It was said that this coin (xmr/monero) had a mining reward schedule similar to bitcoin. In fact it is twice as fast as intended, even even a bit more than twice as fast as bitcoin.
If you acquired your coins on the basis of the advertised reward schedule, you would be disappointed, and rightfully so, as more coins come to into existence more quickly than you were led to believe." Smooth, monero/xmr. Dev



Both Dash and monero were more distributed than the satoshimine, the 1 million+ he did not spend. But good for him, he deserves it. I just hope he does not decide to dump before btc is priced in Dash instead of Dash being priced in btc. 

Please try to stay on topic, this is the Dash thread.

[Macno]

OK it seems people are uninterested in the Markka (CK) pump.

Is there any way I can help you to make it possible to short it?

Is registering to Crypto Kingdom (takes about 2 minutes) a too big difficulty if you want to make a killing (not!) shorting Markka (it has pumped +1000% in 5 weeks now)?

Why is CK going off the XMR standard?  Doesn't that make Markka fiat, like WoW Gold?

If Eulora can keep using their BTC-based economy, why can't CK stay on XMR?

The main reason that Crypto Kingdom had to go off the XMR standard is that XMR is hard currency. By August of 2016 Crypto Kingdom had built a very large XMR denominated debt in the form of Consul Bonds (CON). This XMR denominated debt was the result of paying for among other things the development of the game. The equity, CK gold was, fixed effectively leaving only XMR denominated debt as the way to raise capital for development and improvement of the game. What had to occur and occurred was a conversion of the XMR denominated debt into equity since it was completely unsustainable. This was a accomplished by converting CON (XMR debt) into CK together with the voting / equity component of the old CK gold also into CK. The latest move is to use CK as the in game currency. The best analogy I could think of would be World of Warcraft or Second Life but where stock in Blizzard Entertainment, instead of WoW gold, or stock in Linden Labs, instead of Linden Dollars, was used as the in game currency.  This makes CK actually very unique since equity in the game itself is used as the in game currency.

My take is that the "CK pump" is to a large degree due to freeing Crypto - Kingdom from its XMR denominated debt albatross. In this way Crypto Kingdom would not be impacted by a crash in DASH/XMR which would likely wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt.

Edit:  DASH/XMR https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash

Yo, Dash Master Icebreaker,

I sometimes lurk in that nice thread you have, were you Monero Saints discuss how to deal with those poor investors you guys care so much about. Those poor souls that you guys would never ever scam or something, remember?
Care to explain how the DASH/XMR exchange rate would affect any of you guys? It's involving DASH, so I hope it's not off topic this time and it sounds pretty complicated, just as that whole fair and transparent project you guys support there.

BTW, Please say hello to the marketing genius who came up with CON as the acronym for that XMR debt

[MasterMined710]

Dash was originally released as XCoin (XCO) on January 18, 2014. On February 28, the name was changed to "Darkcoin." On March 25, 2015, Darkcoin was rebranded as "Dash."[3]

Within the first two days of launch, 1.9 million coins were mined, which is approximately a quarter of Dash's current supply (as of March 2017).[7][8] Creator and lead developer of Dash, Evan Duffield, attributed the so-called "instamine" to an error in the code "which incorrectly converted the difficulty, then tried using a corrupt value to calculate the subsidy, causing the instamine."[9] Once the problem was resolved, Evan offered to relaunch the coin without the instamine, but the community overwhelmingly disapproved. He then suggested an "airdrop" of coins in order to broaden the initial distribution. The community also disapproved of this proposal. As such, the initial distribution was left alone and development of the project continued.

Evan Duffield has no more than 256,000 Dash and will give away 80% of that to fund DAOs within DASH
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/62jc3b/evan_duffield_has_no_more_than_256000_dash_and/



Dash Instamine Issue Clarification
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

Instamine FAQ
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DOC/Legacy+FAQ#LegacyFAQ-WasDashInstamined

Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

My View: Dash’s Instamine Is Not A Problem
http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/

Deep technical analysis of the early mining and distribution
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552

Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424



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[volyova]

It is pointless to argue about the Instamine with these folks. I don't believe that anyone of them (maybe with the execption of volvoya or smooth back in the day when he cared, that is before he got even richer with the murky steemit launch) actually believes what they are saying. Look at them how they behave here or outside of this thread (Monero speculation thread for instance). They don't give a fuck about justice or fairness, they are just in it for the money or simply trolling.
I mean come on, even some notorious PnD scammers come here and tell us we should discard a project like Dash because a innocent fuck up at the launch nobody cared at the time because of "fairness"? They scam for a living and want to teach us about fairness? 

I stumbled upon DRK in April 2014, read the whole story and accepted that the community had solved the problem among themselves and moved on. I am repeating myself here, as we all do, because it keeps popping up and has become a running gag and the trolls do not realize that sentiment has long turned and the joke is on them.

You must think I am deluded then? All my careful research must therefore have been meaningless and irrelevant in your eyes?

[MasterMined710]

The DashForce swarm is coming!!! 






Today will not be a good day to be a troll.

Is there any news that just pushed the price past 33 USD ? +15% +20% against BTC in a few minutes ??

Successful fork to 12.1.2 Sentinel, next fork will be Evolution!
Major Exchange Integration in few weeks
Dash partnership with BlockPay
Dash partnership with BlockCypher
Wall of Coins Integration complete
New Dash offices at ASU Skysong.
Amanda B Johnson marketing Dash and getting noticed by long time Bitcoiners + Cryptopulco talk soon.
Dash added to General Bytes ATM Machines

Evolution development is full steam ahead.

Proposal: Business Development - Major Exchange

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-major-exchange.12881/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash into a major exchange with fiat trading.

Why Aren't We Seeing Greater Adoption of Cryptocurrency?
https://youtu.be/zrIul2OGsQE

Published on Jan 23, 2017
Ryan Taylor defines two reasons crypto hasn't gone mainstream yet -- and it may not be the reasons you've been told elsewhere. This is the speech delivered by the Director of Finance of Dash at The North American Bitcoin Conference, 2017.

Learn more by visiting http://dash.org

Original presentation here: https://youtu.be/Tn2s6IHAL4A

Get social with us:
- Dash Slack: http://dashnation.com/chat
- DASH: Detailed Homepage: http://dashdetailed.com
- DASH: Detailed Twitter: http://twitter.com/dashdetailed
- Dash Homepage: http://dash.org
- Dash Twitter: http://twitter.com/dashpay

Dash Nation slack invite
http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com/

Two things i don't want to get buried with all the Dash drama and the totally off topic trolling post.

LIVE Interview and QA: Amanda B. Johnson of DASH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRhi6_E8il4


This last one is really good, packed with info for the newbie's and old heads alike....
Dash: The new Cryptocurrency player with more Features than Bitcoin - Amanda Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d-DCRNAKiM

I like this one too...

Dash Unveils Largest Software Upgrade Since Inception
http://paymentweek.com/2017-2-6-dash-unveils-largest-software-upgrade-since-inception/

Another good one to add to my collection. This is huge and could potentially lead to purse.io, coinbase and many others integrating Dash!!!

Proposal: Business Development - BlockCypher Integration

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-blockcypher.13253/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash with BlockCypher, an API hot-wallet service.

More Great news...

I'm really glad to see that the law firm we've employed to research our compliance with US law is nearing completion.  Quoting Daniel:

"Many of our investors have been following this project closely and I can give you an advance by saying that the results of the research are very positive for masternode operators and they should not be concerned about any liability as the result of the transactions they relay or the mixing sessions they host under US law. Please give us a few days to process this information and prepare an official communication for the community."

Updates are posted here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/legal-research-marco-santori-cooley-llp.12691/

Also, please note:  Daniel posted previously that they wouldn't be able to post the original memos, but that is no longer the case.  When the memo is completed, they will be posted directly, so that everyone can view them, not through a filter of the Dash Foundation.  So please don't worry about that.  Daniel is very busy and said he'll update the post eventually.  The core team are really working like busy bees!

[Macno]

It is pointless to argue about the Instamine with these folks. I don't believe that anyone of them (maybe with the execption of volvoya or smooth back in the day when he cared, that is before he got even richer with the murky steemit launch) actually believes what they are saying. Look at them how they behave here or outside of this thread (Monero speculation thread for instance). They don't give a fuck about justice or fairness, they are just in it for the money or simply trolling.
I mean come on, even some notorious PnD scammers come here and tell us we should discard a project like Dash because a innocent fuck up at the launch nobody cared at the time because of "fairness"? They scam for a living and want to teach us about fairness?  

I stumbled upon DRK in April 2014, read the whole story and accepted that the community had solved the problem among themselves and moved on. I am repeating myself here, as we all do, because it keeps popping up and has become a running gag and the trolls do not realize that sentiment has long turned and the joke is on them.

You must think I am deluded then? All my careful research must therefore have been meaningless and irrelevant in your eyes?

No, I think that you might be one of the few that actually honestly believes that there was some malicious intentional planning in the Instamine. I don't remember everything that you ever wrote when it comes to your research though. I also did intensive research and I have a very hard time believing that anyone who did consider all the facts to still be convinced that there was some intentional wrongdoing by Evan or the other "Instaminers" (who tend to be ignored for some reason, maybe because it's sound so much better to put all the blame on Evan).

Do we agree that at least not all of the folks who keep coming to this thread to warn about DASH only have the best intentions in mind? Especially since we are all still waiting for an actual victim of the alleged "scam" to show up?


edit/PS: Do you hold any CON that might get wiped out by a move in DASH/XMR?

[volyova]

Scam victim for you macno

Dash is resulting to be a ridiculous coin being dumped like a shit of scumbag holders no real adoption at all i might rage dump all my masternodes even earlier to crash the fucking price of it im tired of this pathetic speeches without any real world use just a bunch of pumpers and dumpers so fucking desperating

You don't have any nodes to dump. I have "conversed" with you and would estimate you to be a teenager, due to your brattish behaviour and hollow threats of...well, nothing. You're a liar.

hummm.  so what is harmani21 story?!?

I dont have any nodes to dump right? Lets talk a bit with holger who is hosting 31 nodes for me right now!!if this proves to be real then volyova you will regret it hard because all my previous threats against you will become reality and you will shut your mouth once and forever and as for my story bigR i bought all my 70k dashed within the price range of 3-8$ ..but im willing to dump them because even though i believe this is by far the best project of all coins in existence even better than btc i think some scumbag holders are involved into the project that are just pumpers and dumpers and is resulting that no real world adoption for dash just some shitty exchange integration and manipulation which makes me extremely disspointed about the direction of this coin with those great feauters but last and not least dont take my words for granted about the dump because i might change my mind if it proves that there is some proof that dash is adopted for real world use rather than being used for marketing and manipulated from hired whales

[Macno]

How is this related to the Instamine "Scam" and how is a price rise from $5 to $60 being scammed?

Again, are you a CON holder and how does this XMR debt relate to the Dash/XMR pair? Is that the reason so many XMR folks are worried about Dash?

[volyova]

It is pointless to argue about the Instamine with these folks. I don't believe that anyone of them (maybe with the execption of volvoya or smooth back in the day when he cared, that is before he got even richer with the murky steemit launch) actually believes what they are saying. Look at them how they behave here or outside of this thread (Monero speculation thread for instance). They don't give a fuck about justice or fairness, they are just in it for the money or simply trolling.
I mean come on, even some notorious PnD scammers come here and tell us we should discard a project like Dash because a innocent fuck up at the launch nobody cared at the time because of "fairness"? They scam for a living and want to teach us about fairness?  

I stumbled upon DRK in April 2014, read the whole story and accepted that the community had solved the problem among themselves and moved on. I am repeating myself here, as we all do, because it keeps popping up and has become a running gag and the trolls do not realize that sentiment has long turned and the joke is on them.

You must think I am deluded then? All my careful research must therefore have been meaningless and irrelevant in your eyes?

No, I think that you might be one of the few that actually honestly believes that there was some malicious intentional planning in the Instamine. I don't remember everything that you ever wrote when it comes to your research though. I also did intensive research and I have a very hard time believing that anyone who did consider all the facts to still be convinced that there was some intentional wrongdoing by Evan or the other "Instaminers" (who tend to be ignored for some reason, maybe because it's sound so much better to put all the blame on Evan).

Do we agree that at least not all of the folks who keep coming to this thread to warn about DASH only have the best intentions in mind? Especially since we are all still waiting for an actual victim of the alleged "scam" to show up?


edit/PS: Do you hold any CON that might get wiped out by a move in DASH/XMR?

I don't know how you can do "intensive research", and come up with the results that Dash ISN'T a scam. You're the first and only person i have talked to who has said that. Therefore you are somewhat of an anomaly. On paper it just looks like an obvious scam to me, and many, many people in the crypto-space have come to the same conclusions. It's not just me.

AND please stop saying things like "instamine", "ninjamine" and "stealthmine". These are the words that Dashtards have made up and use when trying to defend themselves. "OH, you're saying we had a pre-mine?? Well...well you and your coin had a...um, um....cripplemine!" It's called "splitting hairs" and I am tired of it.

A pre-mine is a pre-mine is a pre-mine. All the clever words you make up to obfuscate it won't change that. In fact, if you have done enough research you should know that Dash's pre-mine was actually DISGUISED as an instamine (bug) to get around the stigma of the double asterisks "pre-mine marker" at coinmarketcap.com. Imo it's ridiculous that Dash does not have the pre-mine marker on coinmarketcap.com (12% pre-mine!!).

I agree that some people come on here to FUD for their own personal, often childish reasons, but with so many people saying it is a scam, you must at least doubt your own research and conclusions a little? I don't have any CON. I only go long now, and pick winners. And I'm doing very well.

[volyova]

How is this related to the Instamine "Scam" and how is a price rise from $5 to $60 being scammed?

Again, are you a CON holder and how does this XMR debt relate to the Dash/XMR pair? Is that the reason so many XMR folks are worried about Dash?

I haven't got any XMR and I'm not with them, so I wouldn't know why they are "worried" about Dash. Maybe they aren't "worried" about Dash? Maybe they just hate scams like me?

[Macno]

My take is that the "CK pump" is to a large degree due to freeing Crypto - Kingdom from its XMR denominated debt albatross. In this way Crypto Kingdom would not be impacted by a crash in DASH/XMR which would likely wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt.

Edit:  DASH/XMR https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash

This is why I think XMR holders might be worried about Dash and keep spamming the thread. I keep asking about it but you guys do not want to explain what that CON is and how it is related to the DASH/XMR pair.
You know, I also care about investors and maybe we DASH folks should warn newbies here that by bying too much DASH they could "wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt".

As for me being the single exception that does not think Dash is a scam...well...maybe you are just slightly more polite than the rest of the trolls. That statement is as ridiculous as the accusation that the Dash folks came up with "Instamine".

[volyova]

How is this related to the Instamine "Scam" and how is a price rise from $5 to $60 being scammed?

Again, are you a CON holder and how does this XMR debt relate to the Dash/XMR pair? Is that the reason so many XMR folks are worried about Dash?

That guy harmani, he's a bag-holder. He was crying because Dash went down in price...therefore scam victim. Mostly though, people complain and whine and call Dash a scam when they lose money on it,  (this does not mean it isn't a scam though), so if you are looking for "scam victims", I suggest that you look on exchange chat-boxes, as they tend to complain and whine exactly WHERE they lose their money. They probably wouldn't come to this thread to complain as they are too lazy. They just type out their butt-hurt in the exchange's chat/troll-box. I have seen evidence of this with my own eyes.

[Macno]

How is this related to the Instamine "Scam" and how is a price rise from $5 to $60 being scammed?

Again, are you a CON holder and how does this XMR debt relate to the Dash/XMR pair? Is that the reason so many XMR folks are worried about Dash?

That guy harmani, he's a bag-holder. He was crying because Dash went down in price...therefore scam victim. Mostly though, people complain and whine and call Dash a scam when they lose money on it,  (this does not mean it isn't a scam though), so if you are looking for "scam victims", I suggest that you look on exchange chat-boxes, as they tend to complain and whine exactly WHERE they lose their money. They probably wouldn't come to this thread to complain as they are too lazy. They just type out their butt-hurt in the exchange's chat/troll-box. I have seen evidence of this with my own eyes.

I wasn't asking for "bagholders", I was asking for a victim of the so called Instamine Scam (pls ask your buddy Icey to not use that term again, I might consider it also if he does).

[volyova]

My take is that the "CK pump" is to a large degree due to freeing Crypto - Kingdom from its XMR denominated debt albatross. In this way Crypto Kingdom would not be impacted by a crash in DASH/XMR which would likely wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt.

Edit:  DASH/XMR https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash

This is why I think XMR holders might be worried about Dash and keep spamming the thread. I keep asking about it but you guys do not want to explain what that CON is and how it is related to the DASH/XMR pair.
You know, I also care about investors and maybe we DASH folks should warn newbies here that by bying too much DASH they could "wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt".

As for me being the single exception that does not think Dash is a scam...well...maybe you are just slightly more polite than the rest of the trolls. That statement is as ridiculous as the accusation that the Dash folks came up with "Instamine".

Why do you keep trying to deflect our conversation onto XMR? I don't really know much, or care about it. Can you try to stay on topic please. This is the Dash thread.