[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[toknormal]

So if "Bob" took 1000+ btc and two others that posted here took as they said, that will be most of "instamine" right?
And this was posted back in 2014...
So can we bury that "instamine " crap being connected with Evan? ( and stop saying that he did it )

I have personal experience of being on the wrong end of Bob's firehose with the Bitbay ICO of 3 years ago.

The ICO rallied briefly and then started crash-crash-crashing till it amost hit zero. (That was Bob cashing out his premine).

Luckily, the original Dev (who also got scammed by them) stuck to the project for the subsequent 3 years and now has all back at a profit again.

[AzzAz]

It's not just the instamine. That was just an appetizer to see if it was possible to get some constructive dialogue going with some semblance of professionalism and seriousness when it came to the explanations and answers. It's not just about the instamine; it's about everything!

Instead of raging and screaming about some giant conspiratorial "well organized scheme" let's consider the fundamentals which differentiate Litecoin from Dash.


Litecoin is much older and has a more powerful/secure ASIC PoW network than Dash.

Litecoin keeps up to date with hot new features like SEGWIT, while Dash can't even keep up with RBF/CPFP and breaks simple yet crucial things like IPv6 compatibility.

Litecoin is going to have working payment channels like Lightning soon, thanks to SEGWIT.  That means InstantX, Masternodes, and Evolution are obsolete digital trash.

Litecoin's creator has DNA from MIT & Google, while Dash's has a sketchy background in finance and a 2 year mail-order degree in web marketing from University of Phoenix.

Litecoin's cobblee does not shill for and pump LTC; Dash's Duffield frequently advertises his project as a legitimate investment without disclosing the risks involved.

Litecoin was not 20% Instamined in the first 2 days; Dash was.  Litecoin never cut total emission to further enrich early miners; Dash did.

Litecoin does not require trusted 3rd party security holes; Dash makes SlaveNode users the playthings of Masternode Ponzi participants.

Litecoin doesn't have to keep changing its name like a disgraced over-diluted pink sheet stock; Dash does.

Litecoin is supported by Coinbase and Kraken; Dash is considered a scam and despised by most of the crypto community, and thus will never trade on those exchanges.

Litecoin prioritizes technology over marketing; Dash does the opposite.

Litecoin has a bus factor >>1.  Dash keeps losing devs who get wise to Evan 'The Instaminer' Scamfield's long con:

Come on. Give it a shot and start showing with facts just what there is in this litany that is incorrect.

I'll give it one more shot:
Dash price doesn't go 20% down after one tweet
http://www.coindesk.com/one-tweet-make-litecoins-price-fall-20/
What a joke.
You ppl come with something serious. Try to be useful.

[TanteStefana2]

We need to start calling these trolls "Crypto Justice Warriors." From what I can tell they feel it's NOT FAIR that Evan through his ingenuity and hard work created all these millionaires. Maybe if he did this while working at Goldman Sachs it would be ok?

I sincerely hope these CJWs are being paid to do this and are not just doing this out of the badness of their hearts.

All of the trolls are all members of the larger pump & dump crews.  This whole crypto ecosystem is a play ground for all these guys.  They pretend to care and doing this to warn "people" of the terrible things of this or that.  Its all bullshit.  Its very well planned strategies of fud and market manipulation that is being fueled by market movers.  Its all a smoke screen for a much bigger plan.

Its so transparent that its comical.  The only victims are those investors that are unsophisticated and are left holding bags of all sorts of coins these scum bags manipulated, all the while pretending that they CARE about fundamentals...the law and justice.  Its all BULLSHIT! Be careful investors.  

Even in the markets like DASH today..

1500 BTC in numerous buy positions on for several hours to make people believe there is buy support...then boom, the buy positions disappear.   and the dumping starts.  Yawn!  So predictable its becoming boring.

Just yesterday, bigrcanada1, we were talking about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896480.0

Holy Smokes...what a post!  Thanks for the link.  I'm going to have to go over that story in detail.  Exactly what I've been thinking has been going on in ALL these coins...BITCOIN included the whole time.  

I have been thinking something for a while, but I didn't bring it up because maybe I'm being paranoid. It seems to me that all this pumping of random coins seemed to start just as Dash was mooning (Dash was rising for good reason, btw). Is it possible that some nefarious group with deep pockets is attempting to obscure the rise of Dash by creating all this noise in the alt markets?

This activity has been going on a lot long then DASH has been around... All these guys practiced their chops on BTC, LTC, Peercoin, Feathercoin.... And several others. AURORA coin was epic back in the day... Man that mooned hard... Lots of scams too that are no longer here either.  So this has been going on for a long time here.

I started that story years ago, and since you posted it, I've forced myself through it ( it took how many days? 3? LOL). 

I gotta say, now I have more sympathy for the people who really thought Dash was a scam (back in the day) Thank goodness Dash is well diffused (distributed) and I don't think such shenanigans are possible to any degree.  It might be true that someone is pumping Dash, or it may be simply the ebb and flow of the tides.  And yes, after reading all that, I am still a true believer in Dash.  Our team, our know-by-their-real-names team are just too awesome, the planning and structuring of the project too well thought out, the project too far in the lead to have anything but great hope.  The only thing that can fail us is an outright war against the powers that be.  Will the public be swayed? everywhere?  No, that's a foolish direction for even the strongest of governments.  The writing is on the wall, this is the direction of the future.  The cat is out of the bag.

[Louverture]

We need to start calling these trolls "Crypto Justice Warriors." From what I can tell they feel it's NOT FAIR that Evan through his ingenuity and hard work created all these millionaires. Maybe if he did this while working at Goldman Sachs it would be ok?

I sincerely hope these CJWs are being paid to do this and are not just doing this out of the badness of their hearts.

All of the trolls are all members of the larger pump & dump crews.  This whole crypto ecosystem is a play ground for all these guys.  They pretend to care and doing this to warn "people" of the terrible things of this or that.  Its all bullshit.  Its very well planned strategies of fud and market manipulation that is being fueled by market movers.  Its all a smoke screen for a much bigger plan.

Its so transparent that its comical.  The only victims are those investors that are unsophisticated and are left holding bags of all sorts of coins these scum bags manipulated, all the while pretending that they CARE about fundamentals...the law and justice.  Its all BULLSHIT! Be careful investors.  

Even in the markets like DASH today..

1500 BTC in numerous buy positions on for several hours to make people believe there is buy support...then boom, the buy positions disappear.   and the dumping starts.  Yawn!  So predictable its becoming boring.

Just yesterday, bigrcanada1, we were talking about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896480.0

Holy Smokes...what a post!  Thanks for the link.  I'm going to have to go over that story in detail.  Exactly what I've been thinking has been going on in ALL these coins...BITCOIN included the whole time.  

I have been thinking something for a while, but I didn't bring it up because maybe I'm being paranoid. It seems to me that all this pumping of random coins seemed to start just as Dash was mooning (Dash was rising for good reason, btw). Is it possible that some nefarious group with deep pockets is attempting to obscure the rise of Dash by creating all this noise in the alt markets?

This activity has been going on a lot long then DASH has been around... All these guys practiced their chops on BTC, LTC, Peercoin, Feathercoin.... And several others. AURORA coin was epic back in the day... Man that mooned hard... Lots of scams too that are no longer here either.  So this has been going on for a long time here.

I started that story years ago, and since you posted it, I've forced myself through it ( it took how many days? 3? LOL).  

I gotta say, now I have more sympathy for the people who really thought Dash was a scam (back in the day) Thank goodness Dash is well diffused (distributed) and I don't think such shenanigans are possible to any degree.  It might be true that someone is pumping Dash, or it may be simply the ebb and flow of the tides.  And yes, after reading all that, I am still a true believer in Dash.  Our team, our know-by-their-real-names team are just too awesome, the planning and structuring of the project too well thought out, the project too far in the lead to have anything but great hope.  The only thing that can fail us is an outright war against the powers that be.  Will the public be swayed? everywhere?  No, that's a foolish direction for even the strongest of governments.  The writing is on the wall, this is the direction of the future.  The cat is out of the bag.

Hey, I'm gonna spread my investments. Any recommended coins? how about xmr, xrp, pivx, eth?
Fyi, I have 6 bitcoins only besides 90 dash.

[gerhard]

Hey, I'm gonna spread my investments. Any recommended coins? how about xmr, xrp, pivx, eth?
Fyi, I have 6 bitcoins only besides 90 dash.

xmr - Evolutionary dead end. Can't scale.
xrp - Not a cryptocurrency.
pivx - This coin was a penny three months ago.
eth - Seems expensive. Will they fumble the switch to POS?

I would diversify by buying more Dash.

[Louverture]

Hey, I'm gonna spread my investments. Any recommended coins? how about xmr, xrp, pivx, eth?
Fyi, I have 6 bitcoins only besides 90 dash.

xmr - Evolutionary dead end. Can't scale.
xrp - Not a cryptocurrency.
pivx - This coin was a penny three months ago.
eth - Seems expensive. Will they fumble the switch to POS?

I would diversify by buying more Dash.

Thanks!

I'll be all in Dash then.

[sidhujag]

Hey, I'm gonna spread my investments. Any recommended coins? how about xmr, xrp, pivx, eth?
Fyi, I have 6 bitcoins only besides 90 dash.

xmr - Evolutionary dead end. Can't scale.
xrp - Not a cryptocurrency.
pivx - This coin was a penny three months ago.
eth - Seems expensive. Will they fumble the switch to POS?

I would diversify by buying more Dash.

How can dash scale? You know instantx isnt about scaling right? Up to yet noone knows.how dashdrive will work seems lile its not even going to be a bitcoin core type of blockchain design.. whuch will open up a ton of secuirty issues. Its a sell until tech is vetted and matures as it stands dash is not scaling more than any btc core fork out there

[afbitcoins]

Hey, I'm gonna spread my investments. Any recommended coins? how about xmr, xrp, pivx, eth?
Fyi, I have 6 bitcoins only besides 90 dash.

xmr - Evolutionary dead end. Can't scale.
xrp - Not a cryptocurrency.
pivx - This coin was a penny three months ago.
eth - Seems expensive. Will they fumble the switch to POS?

I would diversify by buying more Dash.

How can dash scale? You know instantx isnt about scaling right? Up to yet noone knows.how dashdrive will work seems lile its not even going to be a bitcoin core type of blockchain design.. whuch will open up a ton of secuirty issues. Its a sell until tech is vetted and matures as it stands dash is not scaling more than any btc core fork out there

One huge difference is that Dash nodes are incentivised. To keep a bitcoin node running you need more and more resources over time, bandwidth, storage etc but no incentive except perhaps an altruistic desire to try and support the network . Same with Dash, but with Dash that node is paid so there is another big reason for the node operator to increase ability of the nodes' platform to keep up to keep the reward payments.

[afbitcoins]

Instead of raging and screaming about some giant conspiratorial "well organized scheme" let's consider the fundamentals which differentiate Litecoin from Dash.


Litecoin is much older and has a more powerful/secure ASIC PoW network than Dash.

Litecoin is older than every coin except bitcoin that doesn't make it better. It does have a strong network, so does Dash. Monero on the other hand doesn't even have 1000 nodes.

Litecoin keeps up to date with hot new features like SEGWIT, while Dash can't even keep up with RBF/CPFP and breaks simple yet crucial things like IPv6 compatibility.


SEGWIT is very controversial, and in bitcoin seems a long way off being accepted. Litecoin is using this hype as fuel for a pump. IPv6 is irrelevant at this time. Other than you I haven't seen anyone else mention it.

Litecoin is going to have working payment channels like Lightning soon, thanks to SEGWIT.  That means InstantX, Masternodes, and Evolution are obsolete digital trash.

Lightning Network would be even more controversial than segwit. It will harm mining. And with huge volumes of transactions being handled off chain by Lignting Network will make the whole point of the blockchain diminish. The big money elites will be delighted to be a step closer to achieving elimination of cash replaced by electronic money in their control via lightning networks.  

Litecoin's creator has DNA from MIT & Google, while Dash's has a sketchy background in finance and a 2 year mail-order degree in web marketing from University of Phoenix.

So what? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates dropped out of college. I could almost say that a degree is a hindrance. Certainly it encourages parrot like repetition of 'the mainstream' rather than original thinking.

Litecoin's cobblee does not shill for and pump LTC; Dash's Duffield frequently advertises his project as a legitimate investment without disclosing the risks involved.

Evan is invested in the project. And wants it to succeed. Thanks to the instamine he was able to focus on it full time.

Litecoin was not 20% Instamined in the first 2 days; Dash was.  Litecoin never cut total emission to further enrich early miners; Dash did.

You can think of the instamine as a bit like an ICO. As already mentioned it enabled Evan to concentrate full time on the XCoin/Darkcoin/Dash project. Which we are all now benefiting from.

Litecoin does not require trusted 3rd party security holes; Dash makes SlaveNode users the playthings of Masternode Ponzi participants.

This point doesn't make sense.

Litecoin doesn't have to keep changing its name like a disgraced over-diluted pink sheet stock; Dash does.

Dash has evolved and its name has reflected that. Litecoin is still stuck as silver to bitcoin gold and will never be anything else. The segwit hype only proves that further.

Litecoin is supported by Coinbase and Kraken; Dash is considered a scam and despised by most of the crypto community, and thus will never trade on those exchanges.

Those exchanges may well change their minds just as bitfinex did.

Litecoin prioritizes technology over marketing; Dash does the opposite.

This couldn't be more wrong. Litecoin has done anything original except tweaking the bitcoin parameters? Dash has done more innovation than any other coin. The marketing is just a happy side effect of the budget system. Which is working supremely well.

Litecoin has a bus factor >>1.  Dash keeps losing devs who get wise to Evan 'The Instaminer' Scamfield's long con:

I never heard of Dash losing devs. I do notice them growing the team.

[XbladeX]

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I'll be all in Dash then.

But after 4 months when it hits like 0.02-0.025 again or you want loose your BTC.

[bamsterdam]

Any news on the big exchange integration? Can't seem to find any or is it me except that it will be ninja launched in the past two weeks?

[afbitcoins]

Any news on the big exchange integration? Can't seem to find any or is it me except that it will be ninja launched in the past two weeks?

Lol

I wonder if it is being held back until the volatility of the last huge rise and correction that followed has subsided. Would make sense to announce that during a time when Dash is being sought rather than sold off.

[btrash]

Why  DASH is like Mc Donalds (Well oiled machine and first to market)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIzXqEGy_UA

#dash_force

[harmani21]

 1900 btc volume? No major exchange integration?drop this shit below 0.03 price...

[solowhizkid]

Why buy Dash? the under-rated cryptocurrency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxZIMML2ok

#dash_force

[solowhizkid]

Dash (Cold Storage) Paper Wallet Setup - How to set it up easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL_GquVolFA

#dash_force

[hanno]

why dash price has fallen? Is dash price will rise again? 

[jiggytom]

why dash price has fallen? Is dash price will rise again? 

Dash price falls due to btc rise. When btc dumps, it will be back up.

[Louverture]

Yay, don't miss a special discount Dash during this time! 

[Zontop]

I will do fully agree that recent drop is just a reflection of bitcoin's rise as everyone of us wants to make some quick bucks and keep switching from market to another. Dash is still standing up very strong and once other market will shake up a little bit all profits will be poured into Dash once again.