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[toknormal]

Im not trying to spread FUD, but i feel its wrong to give newbies false hopes and have people dig deep into their pockets into such a risky investment, which goes for all cryptos, and DRK is still dropping, which i was expecting, so what if it goes back to $2? It still has the potential to get up to $100 if it is indeed a solid coin.

+1000

nzminer is bang on the money here. Do NOT get emotionally attached to an investment unless you actually work in it. It just becomes a cult which then degenerates into a snarling cesspit of adversarial factions. Some of the valuations being banded about are delusional and people need to go and take a look at the archive of [ANN] threads for some of the now dead coins around. In particular take a look at the valuations that Blackcoin was GUARANTEED to have after 6 months.

Darkcoin is part of a greater cryptoeconomy ecosystem. It will not survive by trying to dominate or compete with that ecosystem. It WILL grow steadily if it works constructively within that ecosystem to the benefit of its own holders and the holders of other currencies.

In this regard getting to the next dollar is hard enough in this market, never mind talking about hundreds. We need realism, not hallucinogenic dreamland.

Try for $10 and feel damn lucky if we get it.

And yes, the "instamine" is a concern to me and it would be appreciated if i can get an explanation why the windows QT wallet was not released on launch. Again i still think this coin is a strong contender in the market for the short to mid term and it will easily topple litecoin sometime this year, but people like me need solid faith in this coin. Its silly to invest in something just because its going up in value.

Read the dev's own account of it here... https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

[dcm987]

just thought yall should know, this libertycoin wants to implement yalls darksend as well.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600322.new#new
if you hear about this coin; stay far from it. it looks like a P&D

[nzminer]

thanks toknormal

[JGCMiner]

Ive read this person's activities here; i think yall should reconsider him(nzminer) from the troll list. from an outsiders point of view, he only brings up legitimate concerns. from my community's experience, giving these outrageous(maybe one day they won't be) price that it COULD be is an easy way to get burned later(its what we went through at BC) this is not a speculating coin, this is a USEFUL and valuable coin. let the coins utility speak the price for you. talk not of how much it will be towards the moon, but rather keep the good news coming,and innovations and developments streaming.

Does anybody really use those "expected" prices as investment advice tho?  I don't think nzminer is a troll, but that seems like an odd thing to take issue with.  Price "predictions" happen in every coin's thread.  

i think he means for the good of EVERYONE invested, not to get newbies invested with false hopes;it helps keep the value from tanking so quickly if things do slip. not everyone can take risk well.like dominoes,it can fall out of control if people get misled;youd be surprised how many people in cryptoland use those price guides as an investment resource -_-.then if you tell them anything other than the one they liked to hear, then they just say its all FUD.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on the importance of all the price talk.  

Maybe this is just my personal thing, but you should never invest more money that you can afford to lose into a volatile market like altcoins.  It would really really suck if DRK's value dropped to 0 tomorrow, but that I wouldn't mean that I would need line up for welfare checks.  My thinking is that it is really a question of responsibility and research that separates those who profit and those who don't and if price "predictions" mentioned in a public forum sway you enough to make a move then you don't have enough of either.

All that said tho, I get where you a nz are coming form...  

[AlexGR]

more or less, give it a year or two at least
It took litecoin the best part of 3 years to get to $20

Just keep in mind that when litecoin hit $20 (or $50 a while later), it had something like 23mn coins in circulation.

Dark only has 4.3mn.

There is a reason why "42" costs 23 BTC per coin and doge a few satoshis.

Any meaningful comparison should be monetary-base-adjusted.

The 4$ that Litecoin was, before its own boom, was actually something like 21-22$ per coin if you adjust its monetary base to DRK's 4.3mn coins.

[chaeplin]

70,000 th passed.

[nzminer]

more or less, give it a year or two at least
It took litecoin the best part of 3 years to get to $20

Just keep in mind that when litecoin hit $20 (or $50 a while later), it had something like 23mn coins in circulation.

Dark only has 4.3mn.

There is a reason why "42" costs 23 BTC per coin and doge a few satoshis.

Any meaningful comparison should be monetary-base-adjusted.

The 4$ that Litecoin was, before its own boom, was actually something like 21-22$ per coin if you adjust its monetary base to DRK's 4.3mn coins.

yes quite true, when you look at that though, it appears litecoin actually had quite a high marketcap.
I doubt it will get back to $50.

Anyway im off to bed, its late over this side of the earth!

[twinflame]

I started promoting darkcoin as of today on twitter. It's the only coin after timekoin that I like and that adds something new and of value instead of all those clonecoins out there. Some tweets have been added to my tweet schedule and the darkcoin tweets will run every hour. I have about 1600 followers so they will get the message and perhaps read about darkcoin . My tweets will pop up on twitter in darkcoin searches more than anyone else's because I've been automating tweets for 4 years almost non stop now  .

I also would like to say that the masternodes concept isn't new. With timekoin the currency is only created by the masternodes and all transactions are stored by the masternodes and on the masternodes in their respective databases. There's a separate lightweight wallet client you can install locally to send and receive timekoins although the masternodes can send and receive currency as well.

I really see separation as the best option. The masternodes to create the currency and store their databases on their own respective servers and checking whether the transactions are the same as the other masternodes and a separate client that everyone can use to send and receive currency.

[MadGhost]

thanks for the nodes , now the wallet is syncing fine.

[Macno]

PLEASE NOTE!!

It might be just my paranoia, but recently Tante thought her account might have been hacked...... shortly after someone offered to tip her / suggested putting her address up for tips. Coincidence? Hopefully, but please hold off for the time being till this gets resolved.

Hi,

it was me who suggested that. I suggested it here already, without response from Tante:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6720257#msg6720257

I don`t quite get if by coincidence you mean that someone hacked her to post such an adress or if you think I hacked her adress.
Anyway, I`m open for inquiries of any kind, I just don`t know how to prove that I am not even able to hack my own account.
I just wanted to openly respond to that. I appreciate Honest Tim`s warning (@HT: I answered you PM).
I only want to make sure not to be suspected of hacking her account myself (I know some guys here on the forum personally who could testify that I have neither the criminal energy, nor the ethical mindset, nor the technical skills to do so, if someone whishes).

Cheerio

Macno

Edit: By the way...has her account been hacked or not? You write she only suggested that.

[JGCMiner]

PLEASE NOTE!!

It might be just my paranoia, but recently Tante thought her account might have been hacked...... shortly after someone offered to tip her / suggested putting her address up for tips. Coincidence? Hopefully, but please hold off for the time being till this gets resolved.

Hi,

it was me who suggested that. I suggested it here already, without response from Tante:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6720257#msg6720257

I don`t quite get if by coincidence you mean that someone hacked her to post such an adress or if you think I hacked her adress.
Anyway, I`m open for inquiries of any kind, I just don`t know how to prove that I am not even able to hack my own account.
I just wanted to openly respond to that. I appreciate Honest Tim`s warning (@HT: I answered you PM).
I only want to make sure not to be suspected of hacking her account myself (I know some guys here on the forum personally who could testify that I have neither the criminal energy, nor the ethical mindset, nor the technical skills to do so, if someone whishes).

Cheerio

Macno

Edit: By the way...has her account been hacked or not? You write she only suggested that.

My reading of that post was: "upon seeing the fact that a prominent member of the community might receive tips someone may of hacked the account.  Be wary of sending coins to the tip address under her posts until more is known".  I don't think anything about the person who originally offered the tips was implied... but I may have misunderstood.  

[LimLims]

Trolling is a fact of life on these forums. But starting witch hunts reflects poorly on all of us.

Effective trolling will raise an issue that people are genuinely concerned about, in such a way as to provoke a defensive emotional response. If I feel someone is subtly trolling in this way, I find the most effective response is to offer a polite, reasoned argument that addresses the raised concerns. This approach is beneficial to any onlooker who shares those concerns, it avoids playing into the hands of the suspected troll. It also avoids needless accusations, which is especially important if my suspicions are wrong and the person is just raising a genuine concern.

[coins101]

more or less, give it a year or two at least
It took litecoin the best part of 3 years to get to $20

Just keep in mind that when litecoin hit $20 (or $50 a while later), it had something like 23mn coins in circulation.

Dark only has 4.3mn.

There is a reason why "42" costs 23 BTC per coin and doge a few satoshis.

Any meaningful comparison should be monetary-base-adjusted.

The 4$ that Litecoin was, before its own boom, was actually something like 21-22$ per coin if you adjust its monetary base to DRK's 4.3mn coins.

I still haven't figured out the purpose of Litecoin.

I don't think Litecoin has figured out the purpose of Litecoin.

[dcm987]

Trolling is a fact of life on these forums. But starting witch hunts reflects poorly on all of us.

Effective trolling will raise an issue that people are genuinely concerned about, in such a way as to provoke a defensive emotional response. If I feel someone is subtly trolling in this way, I find the most effective response is to offer a polite, reasoned argument that addresses the raised concerns. This approach is beneficial to any onlooker who shares those concerns, it avoids playing into the hands of the suspected troll. It also avoids needless accusations, which is especially important if my suspicions are wrong and the person is just raising a genuine concern.

Exactly what I was saying earlier

[Honest Tim]

PLEASE NOTE!!

It might be just my paranoia, but recently Tante thought her account might have been hacked...... shortly after someone offered to tip her / suggested putting her address up for tips. Coincidence? Hopefully, but please hold off for the time being till this gets resolved.

Hi,

it was me who suggested that. I suggested it here already, without response from Tante:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6720257#msg6720257

I don`t quite get if by coincidence you mean that someone hacked her to post such an adress or if you think I hacked her adress.
Anyway, I`m open for inquiries of any kind, I just don`t know how to prove that I am not even able to hack my own account.
I just wanted to openly respond to that. I appreciate Honest Tim`s warning (@HT: I answered you PM).
I only want to make sure not to be suspected of hacking her account myself (I know some guys here on the forum personally who could testify that I have neither the criminal energy, nor the ethical mindset, nor the technical skills to do so, if someone whishes).

Cheerio

Macno

Edit: By the way...has her account been hacked or not? You write she only suggested that.

My reading of that post was: "upon seeing the fact that a prominent member of the community might receive tips someone may of hacked the account.  Be wary of sending coins to the tip address under her posts until more is known".  I don't think anything about the person who originally offered the tips was implied... but I may have misunderstood.  

Absolutely exactamondo!

I PM'ed you Macno immediately after to save you from lining some potential cretin's pockets!!

[Macno]

Absolutely exactamondo!

I PM'ed you Macno immediately after to save you from lining some potential cretin's pockets!!

Ah, cool, thank`s! So, has it been hacked or not? With what Nicname does she post now? TanteStefana2?

[Honest Tim]

Absolutely exactamondo!

I PM'ed you Macno immediately after to save you from lining some potential cretin's pockets!!

Ah, cool, thank`s! So, has it been hacked or not? With what Nicname does she post now? TanteStefana2?

We havn't heard from her yet.....

[JGCMiner]

Absolutely exactamondo!

I PM'ed you Macno immediately after to save you from lining some potential cretin's pockets!!

Ah, cool, thank`s! So, has it been hacked or not? With what Nicname does she post now? TanteStefana2?

Maybe.  At best, the whole thing is unclear.  It is probably best to wait a bit and see what it posted by the accounts before sending any tips.

[Acidyo]

How much was in her account that she got hacked from?

[salmion]

How much was in her account that she got hacked from?

LOL this is getting out of control. Tante was worried their BITCOINTALK account was hacked. And to look out for any strange posts in her name.

Basically wait to hear from Tante. And don't tip the address under tantes posts till we hear.