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[nzminer]

Is it true that there are more sheep in New Zealand than men

Lols, depending on your definition of 'men' there are more sheep in this forum than men...

Id agree with that!

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[nzminer]

Mate, im not a troll,

Yeah you are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626363.msg6958548#msg6958548

Well i was quite pissed off when i wrote that, i seriously thought DRK fallen over after seeing that i could not trade on cryptsy i thought i had lost all my DRK on cryptsy and the titanic pics finished it off for me.
I feel more relaxed now.

[Polycoin]

Trolls like nzminer disgrace the Troll Community.

#1 Troll Commandment: Trolls do not reply constantly to others in an attempt to hide their trolling, they should troll in a civilized, playful, and stupidly obnoxious way.
You're breaking all the Troll Commandments, nzminer...[/color]

[the_darkness]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

no you're not alone. I think it's a bit odd too. Evan could definitely improve on his communication with the community.
But DRK is still the best anonymous coin out there... so let's hope the best

Yeah some of the posts in here reek a little too much of drinking the kool-aid. The roll-out of the masternodes was a major flop regardless of how much you spin the quick recovery--darkcoin's key feature is not working currently. I hope this is treated as a learning opportunity for future releases. Changing the masternode incentives at the expense of everyone else will help the price in the short term, but that's an economic tool you can only use one or two times at most to buoy up the price--miners have to receive something for their contribution as well.

[camosoul]

I'm getting an odd problem with my client.

Every time I try to send, it alters the amount to 0 and erases the address, calls it a send to self of 0DRK and still shows confirms... Damn strange.

Restarted client. Now different effect...

Only applies to using darksend. regular send works fine.

Waiting for entries 1/3. Stays that way until a block pops, then says idle and poof, like the darksend attempt never happened... Absolutely no log output in regard to it.

I'm not even sure where to look... Fuckin' weird...

Now spontaneously back to "payment to yourself" shit... Address is definitely not mine...

Darksend is just plain broken.

[STT]

Did anyone have their DRK pool wipe out their account balance even from mining last month.   Im hoping its temporary while the chain catches up perhaps.  
Only DRK coins I have left now were mined in the last 24hr

[JGCMiner]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

The problem is in the wallet, NOT in the blockchain, the fork was needed to enable the payments and is already done.

The wallet/daemon/masternode software is what needs the update now.

Thank you for the information. Puts my heart at ease.

[thelonecrouton]

Did anyone have their DRK pool wipe out their account balance even from mining last month.   Im hoping its temporary while the chain catches up perhaps.  
Only DRK coins I have left now were mined in the last 24hr

Why leave coins in pools for months on end?

[AlexGR]

Mate, im not a troll,

Yeah you are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626363.msg6958548#msg6958548

Well i was quite pissed off when i wrote that, i seriously thought DRK fallen over after seeing that i could not trade on cryptsy i thought i had lost all my DRK on cryptsy and the titanic pics finished it off for me.
I feel more relaxed now.

So are you gonna write that XC is dead too, now that it forked?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981267#msg6981267
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981413#msg6981413
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981611#msg6981611

[slapper]

Trolls like nzminer disgrace the Troll Community.

#1 Troll Commandment: Trolls do not reply constantly to others in an attempt to hide their trolling, they should troll in a civilized, playful, and stupidly obnoxious way.
You're breaking all the Troll Commandments, nzminer...[/color]

Yup he will constantly linger here.

@The_Darkness, not drinking kool aid here. That is why I don't pump anything unncessarily. I am going to call out trolls fags like nzminer regardless of what the coin is doing, up down stable doesnt matter. Watch how he forces himself into quoting others hoping for a response and keep going on with his douchebaggery. I am just going to keep reminding folks here till they know how fags like him operate on this thread.

[eduffield]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

There were originally two strategies for masternode payments. One requires a hardfork and one doesn't. I originally decided to do the one that does, because you can't cheat as a pool operator. But, that comes with a price. The code must reject cheating blocks and that's what caused the forking issue.

The other way is to setup the client to pay nodes in a provably fair way. If the pool doesn't pay the correct amount to the correct node, we'll know and we'll shame them. We'll get miners to move to honest pools.

Like others have suggested, all of the groundwork has been laid. I have implemented the masternodes, the election system for payments and it's compatible with this soft fork.

So why 20% fees for masternode payments? This essentially will create twice as many nodes and create a much higher cost to spy on the network. It also creates a larger feedback loop for the price (because as darkcoin is taken out of the supply, it drives the price up), which is good for all of the investors and security of DarkSend. Miners will get less coin, but it's been proven time and time again that when you decrease the coins generated the price will just go up to meet the cost of mining.

My goal with Darkcoin has always been to take the #2 spot from Litecoin. I believe we have the best chance we've ever had now and these changes will actually help realize that goal.

As for my communication? Lately I've just had my nose to the grindstone, coding all of the time. I intend to be much more involved with the community in the future. This will include getting a team of software developers and managing the vision of the project. I think my time might be better spent in the future doing interviews, speaking at conferences and being Darkcoin's figurehead.

[mannie]

Wow cheap coins on Mintpal 

[reda]

hello there is a a backdoor in the version 10.8.8 i have been stolen 999 dark coin from my master node
here is my wallet address http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?XfNfxwfQpVKccGprG6PdRWT2UtMGoM9gCL.htm

it has been moved to this wallet XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP

it seems either the devs or someone who gave the version given on darkcoin.io got a backdoor


here is the log of my masternode server
 st login : from 192.162.103.175
 % This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: this output has been filtered.
% To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '192.162.100.0 - 192.162.103.255'

% Abuse contact for '192.162.100.0 - 192.162.103.255' is 'admin@maxhosting.ru'

inetnum    192.162.100.0 - 192.162.103.255
netname    MAXHOSTING-NET
descr    MediaServicePlus Ltd.
country    RU
org    ORG-ML245-RIPE
admin-c    NIKI-RIPE
tech-c    NIKI-RIPE
status    ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by    RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-by    MNT-MAXHOSTING
mnt-lower    RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-routes    MNT-MAXHOSTING
mnt-domains    MNT-MAXHOSTING
source    RIPE # Filtered

organisation    ORG-ML245-RIPE
org-name    MediaServicePlus Ltd.
org-type    LIR
address    Novorogozhskaya 32c3, 212
address    109029
address    Moscow
address    RUSSIAN FEDERATION
phone    +74993467629
fax-no    +74993467629
mnt-ref    MNT-MAXHOSTING
mnt-ref    RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by    RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
abuse-c    ML16149-RIPE
source    RIPE # Filtered

person    Nikolay Ignatyev
address    Yaroslavskoe shosse, 123
address    Moscow, Russia
phone    +7 (495) 720-51-47
nic-hdl    NIKI-RIPE
mnt-by    MNT-MAXHOSTING
abuse-mailbox   admin@maxhosting.ru
source    RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '192.162.103.0/24AS12608'

route    192.162.103.0/24
descr    24
origin    AS12608
mnt-by    MNT-MAXHOSTING
source    RIPE # Filtered

% This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.73.1 (DBC-WHOIS3)
Philip Lasserre: 29091f5d360286ecbb52382eb0fde1fba370357395d7d09f0633c008bff21c64
XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP

it's a pity cuz i started mining darkcoin since the first day and could get 1200 dark till a week ago

i lost around 10k euro dunno what to do now
just to tell people and dev to be aware

[eduffield]

Many of you have reached out to me about supporting development efforts and looking for an address of mine?

XpAy7r5RVdGLnnjWNKuB9EUDiJ5Tje9GZ8

This will be my development donation address if you're so inclined   This community is really amazing, I really do appreciate the support

[Sapereaude]

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-sponsors-search-for-king-richard-iii-slayer.930/

What do ya'll think?

[nzminer]

Mate, im not a troll,

Yeah you are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626363.msg6958548#msg6958548

Well i was quite pissed off when i wrote that, i seriously thought DRK fallen over after seeing that i could not trade on cryptsy i thought i had lost all my DRK on cryptsy and the titanic pics finished it off for me.
I feel more relaxed now.

So are you gonna write that XC is dead too, now that it forked?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981267#msg6981267
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981413#msg6981413
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6981611#msg6981611

Yeah, those sorts of forks are normal with alot of 1st gen coins, but when you get a forking frenzy happening with darksend masternodes, thats a completley different issue.
The security is a concern, read above and you will see someone has just had 999 DRK stolen.

Maybe im being too pessimistic? IDK, but i have alot of FUD after reading https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

[InternetApe]

hello there is a a backdoor in the version 10.8.8 i have been stolen 999 dark coin from my master node
here is my wallet address http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?XfNfxwfQpVKccGprG6PdRWT2UtMGoM9gCL.htm

it has been moved to this wallet XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP

it seems either the devs or someone who gave the version given on darkcoin.io got a backdoor


here is the log of my masternode server
 st login : from 192.162.103.175

Can you give a little more info, did you have the wallet encrypted? How was your darkcoin.conf setup? Did they connect to the RPCport to do the transfer?

[camosoul]

hello there is a a backdoor in the version 10.8.8 i have been stolen 999 dark coin from my master node
here is my wallet address http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?XfNfxwfQpVKccGprG6PdRWT2UtMGoM9gCL.htm

it has been moved to this wallet XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP

it seems either the devs or someone who gave the version given on darkcoin.io got a backdoor


here is the log of my masternode server
 st login : from 192.162.103.175

Can you give a little more info, did you have the wallet encrypted? How was your darkcoin.conf setup?

DRK on the MN? Not hardened? We need more info. Calling it a backdoor up front suggests you don't know how to secure your serve and were also fool enough to have your DRK ON the server instead of remote MN w/ cold wallet... You're sounding like a troll. We don't want to write you off if it's true, but so far... That may be precisely your troll tactic.

I'm trying to figure out my own weird-ass darksend problem...

[humanitee]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

There were originally two strategies for masternode payments. One requires a hardfork and one doesn't. I originally decided to do the one that does, because you can't cheat as a pool operator. But, that comes with a price. The code must reject cheating blocks and that's what caused the forking issue.

The other way is to setup the client to pay nodes in a provably fair way. If the pool doesn't pay the correct amount to the correct node, we'll know and we'll shame them. We'll get miners to move to honest pools.

Like others have suggested, all of the groundwork has been laid. I have implemented the masternodes, the election system for payments and it's compatible with this soft fork.

So why 20% fees for masternode payments? This essentially will create twice as many nodes and create a much higher cost to spy on the network. It also creates a larger feedback loop for the price (because as darkcoin is taken out of the supply, it drives the price up), which is good for all of the investors and security of DarkSend. Miners will get less coin, but it's been proven time and time again that when you decrease the coins generated the price will just go up to meet the cost of mining.

My goal with Darkcoin has always been to take the #2 spot from Litecoin. I believe we have the best chance we've ever had now and these changes will actually help realize that goal.

As for my communication? Lately I've just had my nose to the grindstone, coding all of the time. I intend to be much more involved with the community in the future. This will include getting a team of software developers and managing the vision of the project. I think my time might be better spent in the future doing interviews, speaking at conferences and being Darkcoin's figurehead.

Good post, great information to have at our disposal to address the concerns of new users. I wasn't sure how to answer their questions, but I knew it was possible to do it without hard forking or else you wouldn't be doing it. Thanks once again for the great work Evan!

[reda]

hello there is a a backdoor in the version 10.8.8 i have been stolen 999 dark coin from my master node
here is my wallet address http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?XfNfxwfQpVKccGprG6PdRWT2UtMGoM9gCL.htm

it has been moved to this wallet XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP

it seems either the devs or someone who gave the version given on darkcoin.io got a backdoor


here is the log of my masternode server
 st login : from 192.162.103.175

Can you give a little more info, did you have the wallet encrypted? How was your darkcoin.conf setup?

the wallet was encrypted by  a hard password
the wallet was started as use and not root
i have changed the ssh port from 22 to another
installed fail2ban
did all security thing and still got hacked
the starge thing is that it has been sent only 999 and not all of the darks which is 1000.6
the walet that received the dark is XwKx3mWB9ncJo5ZudqyEZ1MoQWMSmE3CwP
is there anything to do to block that wallet adress? before he move it somewhere else and sell ?