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[chaeplin]

Thanks Chaeplin.  .  Seems like SV01 to 5 is picking up different MN status to official?

Yes.
official provides only ip address of active NM.
sv01 ~ sv05 collect all info and use pubkey as key.

Are SV01 to 5 on 10.11.5?

V0.9.11.5.

First table has.

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html

[chaeplin]

who dump ?why dump dark?

To be honest I am not sure what is going on. Of all times, right after DRK gets MN's payment working and Evan finally gets to work on improved anonymity and perfecting enforcement (coming in RC4) people dump when they have been buying or holding. Seems odd.

Is this people voting against MN's?  Selling the news?  Wanting to go play with some other shitcoin? Or just the normal silliness in the altcoin space which should be summarily dismissed?  No plans to access my cold storage, but not sure of what to make of the current market.

Could be multipools mining and selling also.

1st is waffle..

[turk-fx]

Enforcement already here. Just waiting for everybody to be on the chain. Once Evan feels that everything smooth, enforcement will be turned on. Initially he said it would take 2-3 days to turn it on. But there are people still did not update. Just expect it to be very soon.

who dump ?why dump dark?

To be honest I am not sure what is going on. Of all times, right after DRK gets MN's payment working and Evan finally gets to work on improved anonymity and perfecting enforcement (coming in RC4) people dump when they have been buying or holding. Seems odd.

Is this people voting against MN's?  Selling the news?  Wanting to go play with some other shitcoin? Or just the normal silliness in the altcoin space which should be summarily dismissed?  No plans to access my cold storage, but not sure of what to make of the current market.

I think people are waiting for the announcement that enforcement has been enabled and RC3 is 100% implemented & working. This should be very soon.

I was under the impression that enforcement was coming with RC4. You think it will be sooner?  Might scourge up some BTC to buy at these levels if that is the case.

Could be multipools mining and selling also.

Well I doubt 3000+ DRK in one go is a multipool.  

[JGCMiner]

Enforcement already here. Just waiting for everybody to be on the chain. Once Evan feels that everything smooth, enforcement will be turned on. Initially he said it would take 2-3 days to turn it on. But there are people still did not update. Just expect it to be very soon.

who dump ?why dump dark?

To be honest I am not sure what is going on. Of all times, right after DRK gets MN's payment working and Evan finally gets to work on improved anonymity and perfecting enforcement (coming in RC4) people dump when they have been buying or holding. Seems odd.

Is this people voting against MN's?  Selling the news?  Wanting to go play with some other shitcoin? Or just the normal silliness in the altcoin space which should be summarily dismissed?  No plans to access my cold storage, but not sure of what to make of the current market.

I think people are waiting for the announcement that enforcement has been enabled and RC3 is 100% implemented & working. This should be very soon.

I was under the impression that enforcement was coming with RC4. You think it will be sooner?  Might scourge up some BTC to buy at these levels if that is the case.

Could be multipools mining and selling also.

Well I doubt 3000+ DRK in one go is a multipool.  

I am well aware that it is in the current clients and can be turned on at anytime. I just missed where he said that this was planned for anytime soon. 

I remember reading in the "RC4" update over at darkcointalk that it was going to go on testnet and some new system was going to be tested first.

Can you point me to where he said that enforcement was right around the corner?

[Ozziecoin]

Thanks Chaeplin.  .  Seems like SV01 to 5 is picking up different MN status to official?

Yes.
official provides only ip address of active NM.
sv01 ~ sv05 collect all info and use pubkey as key.

Are SV01 to 5 on 10.11.5?

V0.9.11.5.

First table has.

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html

ahh, thanks. I missed the version number. Any ideas why sv01 to 5 showing some MNs as inactive?

[r3wt]

It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source

[chaeplin]

Thanks Chaeplin.  .  Seems like SV01 to 5 is picking up different MN status to official?

Yes.
official provides only ip address of active NM.
sv01 ~ sv05 collect all info and use pubkey as key.

Are SV01 to 5 on 10.11.5?

V0.9.11.5.

First table has.

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html

ahh, thanks. I missed the version number. Any ideas why sv01 to 5 showing some MNs as inactive?

1) sorting by ip
Same ip, pubkey changed.



2) sorting by lastseen(minutes)
NM ping not received with in 30 mins.


3) lastseen and active minutes
lastseen : max timestamp (sv01 ~ sv05) : timestamp of recent ping received
active    : max time (sv01 ~ sv05)

sv01 - sv03 not received ping. not sure.

[Dsellerz]

fake sell wall at .0159?

[JGCMiner]

It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source

Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

[PoS]

who dump ?why dump dark?

No one likes a king-peasant set-up.
The masters sitting on there fat asses and get payed endless free darks with there 50 or more masternotes. The peasant can fork out hard earned cash to buy into it. Servants revolting and moving to Vericoin or other coins and become masters themselves. Dark is old tech.

[luke997]

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Not sure what you smoke, but must be a strong stuff.

[luke997]

damn - I forgot to remove the troll/fud stuff
next time - lol
I'm a work in progress - LOL

Just edit man.

[r3wt]

It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source

Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.

[luke997]

It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source

Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.
If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.

Darkcoin is, and will be PoW for years to come.
Darksend is going to be open sourced after audit.

[drawingthesun]

Evan made a choice to devote time to DRK - 2 years - we only have about 1.4 years left folks - maybe he'll renew that contract :-P

Thing is - you'n's need to, as requested by others, to stop re-posting fudders and trolls - over look them - take a higher ground.

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I'm sure that Satoshi Nakamoto had some issues in the beginning when he first came up with the idea of the block-chain.
But nobody was really watching.
Nobody noticed him.
Nobody cared....

He wrote the code and gave it a try......
I'm sure he failed a few times before figuring out how to make it work on a testnet.

Trail and error is all part of development.
People that think that DRK is suppose to work right out of the box like a new toy, has no clue what development means.

This isn't some kind of a movie where the alleged impossible just happens.
Harry Potter is not gonna wave a magic wand.....

Development takes time - not days or weeks - but months and sometimes years.

Satoshi started development of Bitcoin in 2007, two years in secret before first announcing the white paper and then the code afterwards on a widely watched forum (mailing list).

Satoshi made sure Bitcoin worked very well before releasing it. In it's five years since there have only been a couple of major bugs. Darkcoin has had more bugs and errors in several months than Bitcoin had in five years, I find this outstanding considering most of Darkcoin's code is simply Bitcoin code.

Satoshi was very responsible regarding Bitcoin's release and stability in the early days, something that Evan just doesn't care about at all.

My problem with Darkcoin is that Evan is worshipped like a god here, even though he has made many major mistakes. The first mistake was the coin release in the beginning, he should have restarted the project at that point but he didn't care to. Satoshi probably ended up leaving the Bitcoin project because he released the danger of dev worship, the last thing Satoshi wanted was to turn Bitcoin into a cult with him as the leader. Thankfully we can see how it would have turned out, see Darkcoin. Evan is the Satoshi Jesus, half of the people in this thread think that Evan is going to "conclude" Satoshi's grand cryptocoin experiment. Needless to say the amount of "cult" in this thread is disturbing.

Another issue many people have is that the coinjoin concept is deeply flawed and the inventor of coinjoin doesn't even like it anymore. (In comparison to more recent alternatives)

[7vpo]

Hey guys!

I have some graphic cards and i want sale with DRK.

16 pcs sapphire HD6970 (477 Kh/s - 435 W) - 7,5 DRK + shipping cost.
2 pcs sapphire R9 290 (804 Kh/s - 550 W) - 23 DRK + shipping cost.
6 pcs sapphire HD 7850 (317 Kh/s - 174 W) - 4 DRK + shipping cost.

Note: Kh/s and Watt valued written for scrypt.

Details & Pictures: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=567694.msg6184882#msg6184882

If possible, I'm happy to accept Escrow and some another trust system for this sale...

[JGCMiner]

It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source

Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.

First thing, whoever told you that POW was finished for this coin was LYING. Next time, you should go to a different source for your crypto info or do your own research. In the worse case, there is still about 70% (read that again -- 70%) of DRK that remains to be mined. Could be more available depending on hashrate. Miners will get 80% of these. Sorry this is not some early adopter scheme like the 1 week POW then 100% POS coins. If DRK is a early adopter scheme then so is Bitcoin.

As for the rest of your post, well.... you sound like one of the "Bitcoin is perfect and nothing can be to improve it" types. I don't know if Darksend will stand the test of time, but I do know that to call it a illusion before its full release is very short-sighted.  

[Pale Phoenix]

Blah

With all due respect, from what I recall of you in the securities forum, you're not a very savvy investor. All of your objections and protestations are off base or irrelevant with regard to the future of DRK. You're knee deep in the bullshit that no one will remember and focusing on the wrong things. Oh well.

[paulus51]

Hey guys!

I have some graphic cards and i want sale with DRK.

16 pcs sapphire HD6970 (477 Kh/s - 435 W) - 7,5 DRK + shipping cost.
2 pcs sapphire R9 290 (804 Kh/s - 550 W) - 23 DRK + shipping cost.
6 pcs sapphire HD 7850 (317 Kh/s - 174 W) - 4 DRK + shipping cost.

Note: Kh/s and Watt valued written for scrypt.

Details & Pictures: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=567694.msg6184882#msg6184882

If possible, I'm happy to accept Escrow and some another trust system for this sale...

damm ....if we had only darkcoins to buy but can you just donate 1 card to us for our project * ? that would be awesome !;-) our wallets is still empty with darkcoins ;-( bah
wen does xpool.ca pays out x11 protocol ? we have arround 7600 confirmed ?? still nothing recieved ?

* project see first link in my signature ;-)

[r3wt]

First thing, whoever told you that POW was finished for this coin was LYING. Next time, you should go to a different source for your crypto info or do your own research. In the worse case, there is still about 70% (read that again -- 70%) of DRK that remains to be mined. Could be more available depending on hashrate. Miners will get 80% of these. Sorry this is not some early adopter scheme like the 1 week POW then 100% POS coins. If DRK is a early adopter scheme then so is Bitcoin.

Well i'm glad that it isn't true. To be honest i read it in the trollbox, and didn't necessarily treat it as fact, as the poster was promoting BC at the time. Come release of Darksend i'll have a look at the source. Who knows, i might become a Darkcoin miner/enthusiast yet!!

As for the rest of your post, well.... you sound like one of the "Bitcoin is perfect and nothing can be to improve it" types. I don't know if Darksend will stand the test of time, but I do know that to call it a illusion before it's full release is very short-sighted.  

Not at all. I love bitcoin, its the standard, but i also love and embrace all tech as whole. I'm also fairly adept with the inherent insecurity of the internet, so when i hear about things like "DarkSend" and "100% Anonymous Crypto" the bullshit alarm in my brain starts ringing.

Again, just to reiterate on the piece of my post you didn't address, I do not like the centralized nature of the Masternode setup at Darkcoin, BUT , many coins have a centralized aspect, such as checkpointing servers in some POS coins. the way i see it, masternodes and checkpoint servers may be a necessary evil. So all in all i guess the Masternode setup isn't a big deal, so long as it offers no unfair disadvantage to common miners.

At this point, the only other thing i might complain about, is Darksend, but i don't know enough about it, and haven't read the code to make a reasonable quantification about the pros and cons. For now, i will "crawl back in my hole" and continue to observe from a distance. If i see something awesome, i'll be the first one here to praise it. if i see something wrong, i'll be the first one here to denounce its usefulness.

Fair?