[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Spratan]

I like the "Anonymized" line in the wallet.
Clear, effective, private.

[88flaminchevy]

Let the trolls and weak hands drive the price down!  I want a masternode!  They are helping me and anyone that has ever wanted to own one but couldn't afford it.  I don't care what the short term price is.  In a few months we will all be rich and laughing from on top of our piles of money!  My rich wish list....... Lets see, I think I'll buy an Perrelet Turbine, Hublot, heck if I make as much money as I think, maybe a Audemars Piguet Forged Carbon Royal Oak!

[shojayxt]

I hope everyone understands RC4 HAS NOT LAUNCHED YET... its out in spork mode. It is meant to be this way. Roll out RC4 to the adventurour to play with and report bugs "large scale" - which are just little pestering things and nothing major.

 No one need to update unless they dont want to. Except pools if they dont want orphaned blocks when the fork is set.

So RC4 beta-testing now?

Release Candidates are betas by definition...

^^ This 100%.

Wait until v1.0 before being too critical.

The problem is that you can't keep moving the goal posts.  RC4 was supposed to be a big deal.  It wasn't and now people are talking about v1.0 instead.  That's not going to fly.  It's been next week for several months now.  Either you have a working product or you don't.  It's actually a very simple concept.

[coins101]

Yeah...we've talking about that...my thoughts are there is a seed change happening in some of the bigger investors and initial investors.  I have several friends that have been playing out this game now for 5 years and are frankly burnt out.... instead of the road forward being clearer, its become cloudier in some ways.  I think the biggest thing we need to work on...and it has to start with BTC is grow the acceptance of this ecosystem.  BTC must/has to succeed, tho I'm sure there are those that would disagree...  We can't have businesses...like mine for example always wanting to change BTC or any coin for fiet.  This is are single biggest challenge.  Neutrino, is has very interesting concept up their sleeve, and I've video chatted with them several times a few months back, I wouldn't dismiss them so easily.  They have had some very successful ventures in the past and have a great base, although small, around them.  I know they are watching the crypto scene right now and plotting what route to take.  We'll see.  Its interesting times... and I think the whole crypto community should band together to promote this to the masses.  Our in fighting has collateral damage to those outside of our community.  Its hurting us by not painting a positive picture of the ecosystem.  It sucks because there are so many bad operators out there, that we all get jaded.  But folks...we need each other...we need to promote Crypto coin to the masses.  I'm not sure how we are going to bridge our in fighting.  no clue.

+101

These questions have had me vexed for a while now.

But then you have Robin Williams death and the first thing that happens is that his daughter is trolled on social media.

I wish more trolls would read up on the prisoners dilemma. It proves that working against each other does no one any good, but working together helps everyone.

Then there is the issue of Bitcoin going main stream. It needs something to back it. At the moment its mostly fiat, but you are right, businesses that accept Bitcoin convert for fiat creating selling pressure in a lot of instances.

We could do with a bitcoin investment trust that buys assets that yield dividends which are used to buy bitcoin which are distributed back to the investors. This is what Middle East oil money is used for - pull oil out, sell it, buy investment assets that yield dividends in perpetuity. That's why Saudi Arabs own so much of America.
 

[superplus]

I hope everyone understands RC4 HAS NOT LAUNCHED YET... its out in spork mode. It is meant to be this way. Roll out RC4 to the adventurour to play with and report bugs "large scale" - which are just little pestering things and nothing major.

 No one need to update unless they dont want to. Except pools if they dont want orphaned blocks when the fork is set.

So RC4 beta-testing now?

Release Candidates are betas by definition...

^^ This 100%.

Wait until v1.0 before being too critical.

The problem is that you can't keep moving the goal posts.  RC4 was supposed to be a big deal.  It wasn't and now people are talking about v1.0 instead.  That's not going to fly.  It's been next week for several months now.  Either you have a working product or you don't.  It's actually a very simple concept.

why isn't it a big deal?
alt markets are suffering

[Toninho]

I hope everyone understands RC4 HAS NOT LAUNCHED YET... its out in spork mode. It is meant to be this way. Roll out RC4 to the adventurour to play with and report bugs "large scale" - which are just little pestering things and nothing major.

 No one need to update unless they dont want to. Except pools if they dont want orphaned blocks when the fork is set.

So RC4 beta-testing now?

Release Candidates are betas by definition...

^^ This 100%.

Wait until v1.0 before being too critical.

The problem is that you can't keep moving the goal posts.  RC4 was supposed to be a big deal.  It wasn't and now people are talking about v1.0 instead.  That's not going to fly.  It's been next week for several months now.  Either you have a working product or you don't.  It's actually a very simple concept.

why isn't it a big deal?
alt markets are suffering

[coins101]

https://drk.mn/masternodes.html

Looking good.

[Spratan]

Let people sell DRK today...

The will regret in 2, 5 and 10 years when every of their transaction is pubicly known for their whole life in the BTC blockchain.
There will be no erasement or "Right to forget me". Marketers will harass you depending on what you once bought.
Your relatives will be ashamed of what you did younger with your bitcoins...

Your privacy starts today. Only DRK can protect you now.

[Icebucket]

Are we making a double bottom right now  
MACD says yes  

[Brilliantrocket]

Anyone tried anonymizing with the latest wallet? Is it working?

[HinnomTX]

I hope everyone understands RC4 HAS NOT LAUNCHED YET... its out in spork mode. It is meant to be this way. Roll out RC4 to the adventurour to play with and report bugs "large scale" - which are just little pestering things and nothing major.

 No one need to update unless they dont want to. Except pools if they dont want orphaned blocks when the fork is set.

So RC4 beta-testing now?

Release Candidates are betas by definition...

^^ This 100%.

Wait until v1.0 before being too critical.

The problem is that you can't keep moving the goal posts.  RC4 was supposed to be a big deal.  It wasn't and now people are talking about v1.0 instead.  That's not going to fly.  It's been next week for several months now.  Either you have a working product or you don't.  It's actually a very simple concept.

why isn't it a big deal?
alt markets are suffering

+1 It is a big deal. Too many traders and not enough nerds in the room.
Take a look at this random block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/block.dws?119151.htm

Those darksends look pretty badass. You can't backtrack very far without getting snowed.

[luigi1111]

Anyone tried anonymizing with the latest wallet? Is it working?

I think it always worked. Haven't heard anything about >1 round yet.

[Brilliantrocket]

I think that rather than disabling Darksend by default, upon the first start up of a wallet, it should prompt you to choose whether you want Darksend enabled. Also, if there are going to be fees, the wallet should be able to give an estimate for your balance. Furthermore, asking a user how many rounds they want is too confusing for most people. Better to have preset values that correspond to a simple description. 2 rounds - anonymous, 4 Rounds - increased anonymity, 8 rounds - maximum anonymity.

[superplus]

I think that rather than disabling Darksend by default, upon the first start up of a wallet, it should prompt you to choose whether you want Darksend enabled. Also, if there are going to be fees, the wallet should be able to give an estimate for your balance. Furthermore, asking a user how many rounds they want is too confusing for most people. Better to have preset values that correspond to a simple description. 2 rounds - Anonymous, 4 Rounds Increased anonymity, 8 rounds - maximum anonymity.

i think its good disabled by default, if people want to spend anonymous funds they will know how to do that.
on the other hand too many people don't know whats going on by automatically anonymizing the wallet.
its also better to be able to decide first how much of the wallet should be anonymous and how much doesn't, not every payment must be anonymous for some people.
nice to have that decision

[Freckleg]

I think that rather than disabling Darksend by default, upon the first start up of a wallet, it should prompt you to choose whether you want Darksend enabled. Also, if there are going to be fees, the wallet should be able to give an estimate for your balance. Furthermore, asking a user how many rounds they want is too confusing for most people. Better to have preset values that correspond to a simple description. 2 rounds - anonymous, 4 Rounds - increased anonymity, 8 rounds - maximum anonymity.

Agree and I think DRKLord will take that into the wallets design. But technically its up and running and that is a hell of an achievement!

[oblox]

All I know is after one round of darksend and sending the newly anon'd coins to another address, I couldn't backtrack to my sending address. It works, and that's after one round. Don't believe me, use your anon coins to another address and look through the inputs yourself in the blockchain.

[Magiklair]

taking a beating today. Hopefully these wallet issues can be resolved and everything good to go shortly. With the anonymous features..

[McHammer]

The will regret in 2, 5 and 10 years when every of their transaction is pubicly known for their whole life in the BTC blockchain.

lolol 2 years = 1000 years in crypto
2024 rofl

[Spratan]

I think that rather than disabling Darksend by default, upon the first start up of a wallet, it should prompt you to choose whether you want Darksend enabled. Also, if there are going to be fees, the wallet should be able to give an estimate for your balance. Furthermore, asking a user how many rounds they want is too confusing for most people. Better to have preset values that correspond to a simple description. 2 rounds - anonymous, 4 Rounds - increased anonymity, 8 rounds - maximum anonymity.

Agree and I think DRKLord will take that into the wallets design. But technically its up and running and that is a hell of an achievement!

Something more clear like :
1 round - normal people
2 rounds - dealers
4 rounds - African dictators
8 rounds - FIFA or Olympic comitees members

Sorry, I really couldn't resist

[toknormal]

The problem is that you can't keep moving the goal posts.  RC4 was supposed to be a big deal.  It wasn't and now people are talking about v1.0 instead.  That's not going to fly.  It's been next week for several months now.  Either you have a working product or you don't.  It's actually a very simple concept.

+1

I think we have to accept that this may be DRK's settled price range - at least as far as the market against bitcoin is concerned. Everything that's going on now was known about and anticipated in the big revaluation of 3 months ago and so can be considered to be already priced in.

From now on, both technical and price development is likely to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. That doesn't mean there won't be some good bumps along the way - once the technology gets bedded down, this will be a very attractive target asset if and when the rest of the altcoin market starts to consolidate, so still wrth investing in and holding IMO, but not as a quick pump and dump.