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January 25, 2014, 04:31:06 AM
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1 hour drive from where I currently reside.
If that turns out not to be a scam, which I highly doubt I will go and check myself.



hey it will be the start of your new career "gonzo journalist" bring video...when you find out it is a scam go to your local news organizratioin they would eat this stuff up especially when these guys refuse to go on camera or show product...

(i'll be able to say i made you a media news superstar ..pats self on back)

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January 25, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
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Not unless they've copyrighted a photo ...

Besides, BFL and KNC did the same things, they took a photo of a chip and then CAD/photoshopped, until they had actual designs.

So if they have not paid the copyright then it is still illegal but that's okay because other have done something similar.

Reminds me of the girl who sold her virginity on the Internet but claimed she was not a prostitute because she only done it once Smiley

No, all i was saying was unless it's copyright protected, there's no wrong being done. Simply taking a photoshopped image from one place and chopping it yourself, isn't wrong. Laws vary by country of course. If it is copyright protected, the image needs the stamp, as does the sourcepage.

But even still, taking a copyright protected image and modifying it.. is different than trying to use the exact same image.

Wrong, copyright does not need any copyright marking or registration, it is automatically implied. http://www.ipo.gov.uk/c-auto.htm

While you can use someone else's work in your own, your work has to be substantially different (trans-formative) from the original. This is not.

Correct,  a photo does not have to be copyrighted to be protected. It's automatic. Now I will like for Rebecca to give us some unique pictures of herself and showing the chip in places where it was not intended to be.
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January 25, 2014, 05:22:35 AM
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I also find this part of their spec amusing:
Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series Liquid Cooler
Fans: 5 x 120mm

One water cooler for 4 asic chips?  Smiley And Corsair coolers, really?

I still think it's a scam. They are doing everything wrong if they want to prove they are legit.

They have done some damn good work to fake/hide their identity though Cheesy

I think Rebecca came up with the idea to use liquid nitrogen as the cooling liquid, that is why they only need one. In fact, unless the chips are overclocked they freeze.
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January 25, 2014, 07:01:43 AM
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I received this email from Rebecca:
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Sorry you’ll have to excuse the short email.
Currently out of the office (20:25 here in the UK and been allowed to go home!)
My manager Michael might still be there answering emails if you want to call +44 1371 606056?

Our company is registered as Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.
We are a subsidy of the main microprocessor manufacturing company setup specifically for Bitcoin products.

We operate from the same offices and factory in Essex - We are trying to keep this very separate due to the work we do trading as CMS (Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.) with the UK government.

I hope that helps.

Thanks,

Rebecca
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So, I went to: https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company

and did a search for: Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Limited

I confirmed the company existed for as long as they say in their press release.

Date of Incorporation: 11/04/1983

I also did a whois lookup on their domain: cms.uk.com  (domain 1st registered in 1998)

Both companies are in the same building and their phone numbers are only 1 digit off. I called both numbers and voice is the same on both messages.  So far, it looks legit boys.
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January 25, 2014, 07:07:08 AM
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I received this email from Rebecca:
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Sorry you’ll have to excuse the short email.
Currently out of the office (20:25 here in the UK and been allowed to go home!)
My manager Michael might still be there answering emails if you want to call +44 1371 606056?

Our company is registered as Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.
We are a subsidy of the main microprocessor manufacturing company setup specifically for Bitcoin products.

We operate from the same offices and factory in Essex - We are trying to keep this very separate due to the work we do trading as CMS (Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.) with the UK government.

I hope that helps.

Thanks,

Rebecca
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So, I went to: https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-a-company

and did a search for: Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Limited

I confirmed the company existed for as long as they say in their press release.

Date of Incorporation: 11/04/1983

I also did a whois lookup on their domain: cms.uk.com  (domain 1st registered in 1998)

Both companies are in the same building and their phone numbers are only 1 digit off. I called both numbers and voice is the same on both messages.  So far, it looks legit boys.

A REAL company, someone in business for 30 years, would be able to produce these and ship them as completed units, not pre-orders. They also wouldn't say something stupid like, no refunds ever.
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January 25, 2014, 07:09:55 AM
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Exactly, AND it isn't something that could be pulled off without resources from a company like Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.

AND of course they kept their work secret.  DUH!
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January 25, 2014, 07:12:40 AM
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Can someone pls post links to threads with companies or products that turned out to be real scam? I do not mean bfl or scamfast?
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January 25, 2014, 07:13:40 AM
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have you seen this, received from email subscription

looks more like a pump and dump before disappearing 

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January 25, 2014, 07:15:34 AM
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terrahash, vmc, hell someone else do the list.

wtf, 20% off multi thousand dollar orders? Yeah, get some more money QUICK before they realize how bullshit you are.

Sweet, saved me 15,000 dollars. Good business!
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January 25, 2014, 07:16:03 AM
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have you seen this, received from email subscription



How did they get your mail?
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January 25, 2014, 07:16:38 AM
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When are some forum members going for a visit? Looking forward to it Cheesy
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January 25, 2014, 07:19:26 AM
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And more importantly, wy did you share the code? Now they're going to invalidate it almost immediately.
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January 25, 2014, 07:31:46 AM
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Come on people... give them a chance Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 25, 2014, 07:35:16 AM
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Pitchforks at dawn.

"I am not Dorian Nakamoto."
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January 25, 2014, 07:44:30 AM
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January 25, 2014, 08:14:55 AM
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I'd suggest, someone contact the company's local fraud squad and advise them to investigate. We are talking about a helluva lot of money here and in the UK, we do have protocol for this sort of thing.

My bets are on CMS employees trying to do a hustle from within the company, someone with a direct line.

Or... Just call the switchboard and ask to speak to CMS press office.
As i said previously, i've already made up my mind... i'm out.

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January 25, 2014, 08:24:29 AM
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Please don't fall for this. This is a total blackhat trick, buying aged domains from companies long out of business.  Everything on the Cambridge Microprocessor site is spun garbage from a company that was state of the art in 1997. The company has a bunch of recently submitted directory links as it's SEO profile, doesn't make any sense at all.  It's an elaborate KNCMiner copycat scam.  
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January 25, 2014, 08:27:38 AM
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Please don't fall for this. This is a total blackhat trick, buying aged domains from companies long out of business.  Everything on the Cambridge Microprocessor site is spun garbage from a company that was state of the art in 1997. The company has a bunch of recently submitted directory links as it's SEO profile, doesn't make any sense at all.  It's an elaborate KNCMiner copycat scam.  



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January 25, 2014, 08:29:12 AM
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Verified...The code actually works

i disagree with my friend here of course the code works...they are working the last end of this scam....imho this is the same scam as the miner last summer that came out that said it has nitrogen cooling from the air (forget the name) looked nice was eventually traced to lebannon and people lost millions...also just before KNC shipped Jupiters and at a cut rate price with more GH...

think abou this for a second

have been working on stealth 20mm asic research for 1 year.show me company picnic pics..the office setup your proud of......team and qualifications like cointerra does....i mean really...gonna make an asic chip design with nothing before 65mm nor 28mm down to 20mm all in one big jiump...sheesh...

comes out when KNC makes a big splash with its Neptunes but now they are out....very good timing ..no neptunes shippping.......get the overlay of people looking

they state they (in january) have already contacted UPS for delivery around the 1st of april  sometime as a 'fixed' shipping date (yeah your tech people are gonna let you commit to that in jan)

they take no refunds....even at the beginning ie their startup (even bfl and the rest took paypal or cc to show their bonafides when they we're new)..not even 30 days to show legit

from what i can tell they showed 500 units and a bunch sold prev in this thread someone stated they sold 5Kof btc in 2hrs also now it seems they have 1000 units available again

no one can find any of these people on facebook linkin or whatever....the web site is what 2 weeks old (what did they use to communitcate their worldwide expertise with pidgeons?)

they show nothing for the past year of development ie company picnics.....peoples creditials etc.they say they have 'approached a company" to make chips....but that could be just verbal foreplay to use that company for cover....and that company says zip cause it knows zip on if/when they may approach them for chips...they can say its the non-disclosure aggrement...

if you are gonna do this kinda thing have an exit strategy

i mean i ordered from www.alpha-t.net ..a place trying to make an asic for litecoin....and i was thinikng they may be a scam..but i had an exit strategy in that they took paypal .i also did cc ames with paypal for protection.....i no longer think they are a scam but seem more like me and a buddy trying to start an asic litecoin chip from india remotely..ie clueless.....but that is a different kettle of fish.....another BFL via nothing at all

but i have an exit startegy with paypal and cc i can get $$$ back in 45 days (me my timeline is 30days w/o any real info from them)

this place you can't get a refund but you can upgrade your unit

if they are selling out like hotcakes and you are legit sitting on 1 year of R&D would you offer a voucher for 20% off .2weeks after you open the site...why would you do that if you are the only game in town at 5TH and knc neptunes sold out and the next batch of cointerra (may) at $6k that would be really really stupid....the venture capitlalists who funded this thing if legit would lynch you

and hear is the kicker places and companies that HAVE at least gotten equip out the door..LETS SAY THEY SAID THE BELOW ..USE BFL IN YOUR MIND FOR THIS IS A HOOT!

BFL, hashfast. black arrow, etc

If they announced right after KNC stopped selling Miners ie Neptune 3TH for 10K ...that you 'secretly' have been developing a 5TH miner w/o the corresponding pevious chip (20mm proven to work chip) development..from what I understand KNC's chip and even BFL's chips are being 'modded" to go to 20mm..not we are gonna make an asic chip on the fly and put it to 20mm too boot

also we are gonna give you 5TH at 1/2 the price of KNC neptune if i remember the price right..and lookie KNC Neptunes are out and cointerrra may order is only other option at 2TH in May...lucky us

and we have contacted UPS to make sure they know we are shippping in april  this paritcular set of days even though we have no pics or anyhing else of a company group endeavor to show you at this time

trust us

if BFL or Hashfast did this people would freak out and yell...LIES......

its a scam imho (would like to be wrong)

but these guys make BFL look like saints ....

I mean really I can't find any of these people on facebook etc ..no technical info...from what i gather if in UK you have to have a certain business classification to do this kinda thing ie bona fides zip...

sorry to say .....this is likely the same folk that floated the miner this summer that was cooled by nitrogen in the air out of lebannon

also while we are on cooling look at their specs on cooling that standard unit you'd probably see on a BFL monarch at 600gh is gonna cool 5TH by itself...right

like i said it is ok to take a chance on stuff like this if you have an exit strategy...i took a chance on KNC when they had "line drawings' for miners but they also had
paypal and credit card option.....by the time i looked at pulling the plug .they at least had some traction and a prototype of the chips running

heck even the www.alpha-t.net site has a prototype running (i don't think they are a scam they are clueless however) and even they in annoucing in jan with paypal a timeine of JULY..you have 30 days and i think someone said they even got btc back in those 30 days

well I supose it does not hurt me any all that $$$ going to imaginary miners will not add GH to the network this spring i guess

anyway RUN AWAY is my view on this (others with better info research feel free to chime in pro or con)

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January 25, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
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The only thing that worries me is that I can't found any of those people anywhere.  However, if their company is a government contractor, it would make sense that they were not allowed to have social networking profiles.

Remember what Ms. Saunder's said in her email to me:
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We are trying to keep this very separate due to the work we do trading as CMS (Cambridge Microprocessor Systems Ltd.) with the UK government.
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Rebecca Saunder's email seems like she is a real person and I think they will flesh out to be legit in the end.  I bought two units, because I did enough research to make me believe that they are real.  I admit, it's a risk and they could have done a better job with some proof of product. But they already sold half of their inventory in less than a day, regardless, which is amazing.
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