[POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com

[resetgoris]

Hello, my settings are

cudaminer.exe -H 0 -i 0 -l K7x32 -C 1 -m 1 -o stratum+tcp://eu.wafflepool.com:3333 -u bitcaddrss -p xx

--scrypt doesnt work on cudaminer, other settings(dificulty from 64 to 512 and variances from 14x16 ...) i tested result in more "boo's" or lower hasrate.

I still don't understand why there are sometimes new messages like "new block" then processes like 3 or 4 with no yay's or straight up processes but no yay's.
Does that mean i get alot of rejects or something else because my acceptance level is allways above 98.2%.
Left the worker over the weekend non stop and same results.

Any suggestions are really apreciated.

[2014-02-10 22:36:28] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:28] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 306.87 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:28] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:28] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 294.56 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:28] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 315.33 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:28] accepted: 1542/1550 (99.48%), 315.33 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:30] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 322.08 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:30] accepted: 1543/1551 (99.48%), 322.08 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:31] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:31] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 323.06 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:39] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 326.18 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:39] accepted: 1544/1552 (99.48%), 326.18 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:40] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:40] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 317.05 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 324.24 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 166.69 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] Stratum detected new block
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] accepted: 1545/1553 (99.48%), 166.69 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:43] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 166.69 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:45] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 323.03 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:45] accepted: 1546/1554 (99.49%), 323.03 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:48] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 323.62 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:48] accepted: 1547/1555 (99.49%), 323.62 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:51] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 324.17 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:51] accepted: 1548/1556 (99.49%), 324.17 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-02-10 22:36:52] GPU #0: GeForce GTX 670, 310.60 khash/s
[2014-02-10 22:36:52] accepted: 1549/1557 (99.49%), 310.60 khash/s (yay!!!)

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[Magicolo]

Not to derail this (definitely important), but another major thing we need to discuss is Cryptsy.

Most of our current trading is done through cryptsy, since they provide an API that lets us do (almost) everything we need to do (deposit, check balances/prices, trade).  The only thing that has to be done manually is to withdraw BTC each day for payouts.

They've however, gotten slower and slower over the past days, to the point that we have ~2btc in Elacoin that still hasn't shown up (>1500 confirmations), and ~4 btc in Dogecoin that haven't shown up (>300 confirmations).

I've halted sending new amounts to cryptsy for now, as I don't want to have any more in limbo, and have started looking into what it would take to manually trade on another exchange.  Unfortunately, none of the exchanges support all of our coins (or even most of our coins), but we can always split them to multiple exchanges.  This again brings up the risk of taking time between earning coins, and being able to trade them (manually), but that seems like less of a serious detriment as cryptsy is causing the same issue (we send coins, and don't get to trade them for a many hours).

Here are the exchanges I've found, and what of our coins they support:
Vircurex:
DGC, DOGE, LTC, WDC

Bter:
LTC, BTB, CNC, DGC, DOGE, MEC, NET, TAG, WDC

MCX:
LTC, FTC, MNC, WDC

CoinEx:
CAP, CAT, DGC, DOGE, FTC, LKY, LOT, LTC, MEC, MNC, MOON, PHS, PXC, WDC

CoinsE:
ALF, DOGE, ELC, FTC, FRK, GRD, GLC, LTC, MEC, NET, SBC, SPT, TAG, WDC


CoinEx/CoinsE look to have the most matches, but for our speed, the depth is a joke (many coins sub 1 btc bid depth).  Not sure trading there is even worth it (we'd destroy their depth super quickly).

Anyone have any ideas on other exchanges that have better depth?

For what it's worth, you might want to take a look at this article: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/05/cryptocurrency-exchanges-steal-just-badly-built-keep-away-bter-com/
Bter might not be as trustworthy as we would like them to be...

[Zoella]

Why not split transactions across multiple exchanges?

[poolwaffle]

Why not split transactions across multiple exchanges?

Just the amount of work involved.  Almost none of them have useful APIs (Bter looks okay).  Having to login to 3-4 different exchanges, and manually trade 20+ currencies on them is just a ton of overhead I'd rather not have, the more automated this can be, the better.  Lets me work on features instead of mindlessly entering prices and hitting "Trade" (not to mention then manually typing those trades back into wafflepool for stats).

[bbr]

Is there currently an issue?? I have been mining for the past hour and have had around 200 accepts but when checking on your site my bitcoins unconverted and bitcoins earned hasn't changed? The recent shifts is showing my shares as usual but the earnings log isn't updating as regularly as usual (yesterday it was updating nearly every 2 minutes or so), but for the past hour it is only showing 5 logs.

[smooth]

For what it's worth, you might want to take a look at this article: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/05/cryptocurrency-exchanges-steal-just-badly-built-keep-away-bter-com/
Bter might not be as trustworthy as we would like them to be...

I had an issue like this with bter (and posted about it on bitcointalk on a few bter threads), but eventually I did get my coins back. I don't think they are stealing, "just" unreliable software and bad support.

Also, I've had reasonably good luck with cryptsy support on these, and you can pm or email bitjohn and he will often see that these issues get taken care of.

I seriously doubt there is any exchange with anywhere near the coverage of coins and support and reliability that is even as good as cryptsy (not to say theirs is always perfect -- it is not).

Also, I'd add that often cryptsy's problems are coin-specific, so it may make more sense to disable sending on a coin-by-coin basis, perhaps automate this with a cap on the amount of value in limbo per coin.

[smooth]

Thoughts?  10 Seconds seems like a long time when a lot of alt-coin block times are 30-40 seconds.

If you can't improve it, you need to factor that into the profitability calculation. All else being equal slower blocks are better.

[poolwaffle]

Is there currently an issue?? I have been mining for the past hour and have had around 200 accepts but when checking on your site my bitcoins unconverted and bitcoins earned hasn't changed? The recent shifts is showing my shares as usual but the earnings log isn't updating as regularly as usual (yesterday it was updating nearly every 2 minutes or so), but for the past hour it is only showing 5 logs.

Please read the big header at the top of the site:
Note: Exchanging has been halted until Cryptsy processes our deposits...

I had an issue like this with bter (and posted about it on bitcointalk on a few bter threads), but eventually I did get my coins back. I don't think they are stealing, "just" unreliable software and bad support.

I've been testing them a bit today, unfortunately they're missing a bit of the API we would need to work nicely.  Sending works fine, creating trades works fine, unfortunately, there is almost no way to find out how a trade was executed, which is really important for us...  Once you create the order, it just sort of disappears, we could do some absolutely terrible stuff with constantly polling balances, but saying it is prone to error is an understatement.  Its just asking for trouble.  Plus if they're losing deposits like that site mentions, not sure how much I want to deal with that either...

Hopefully cryptsy handles our deposits over tonight so we can continue trading with them tomorrow.  One big Doge deposit just went through, still waiting for the other, then I'll turn deposits back on.

[Zamboniman]

Looks like a bunch of coin just got converted to BTC.

[smooth]

Is there currently an issue?? I have been mining for the past hour and have had around 200 accepts but when checking on your site my bitcoins unconverted and bitcoins earned hasn't changed? The recent shifts is showing my shares as usual but the earnings log isn't updating as regularly as usual (yesterday it was updating nearly every 2 minutes or so), but for the past hour it is only showing 5 logs.

Please read the big header at the top of the site:
Note: Exchanging has been halted until Cryptsy processes our deposits...

I had an issue like this with bter (and posted about it on bitcointalk on a few bter threads), but eventually I did get my coins back. I don't think they are stealing, "just" unreliable software and bad support.

I've been testing them a bit today, unfortunately they're missing a bit of the API we would need to work nicely.  Sending works fine, creating trades works fine, unfortunately, there is almost no way to find out how a trade was executed, which is really important for us...  Once you create the order, it just sort of disappears, we could do some absolutely terrible stuff with constantly polling balances, but saying it is prone to error is an understatement.  Its just asking for trouble.  Plus if they're losing deposits like that site mentions, not sure how much I want to deal with that either...

Hopefully cryptsy handles our deposits over tonight so we can continue trading with them tomorrow.  One big Doge deposit just went through, still waiting for the other, then I'll turn deposits back on.

In case it wasn't clear from my message I would not recommend them until it is clear they have drastically improved their software and support (which as far as I know they have not).

They didn't steal my coins but the coins were missing for about two months.

[poolwaffle]

In case it wasn't clear from my message I would not recommend them until it is clear they have drastically improved their software and support (which as far as I know they have not).

They didn't steal my coins but the coins were missing for about two months.

Yep, understood, just was playing around with them in testing (one of the few with actual depth and an api thats at least _close_).  Not planned for production any time soon.

[Zoella]

...Plus if they're losing deposits like that site mentions, not sure how much I want to deal with that either...

Just so you know, the only two sites on their "banned exchange" list is BTer and Cryptsy. I wouldn't put any stock in that site at this point.

[Zoella]

Just the amount of work involved.  Almost none of them have useful APIs (Bter looks okay).  Having to login to 3-4 different exchanges, and manually trade 20+ currencies on them is just a ton of overhead I'd rather not have, the more automated this can be, the better.  Lets me work on features instead of mindlessly entering prices and hitting "Trade" (not to mention then manually typing those trades back into wafflepool for stats).

D'oh! Sorry, missed the whole manual comments. For some reason I thought those ones you listed had APIs.

[Zoella]

Looks like someone created an autotrade script for coinex...

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/3504-auto-trade-script-for-coinex-and-cryptsy/

I really liked the auto-trade feature of cryptsy, but I've found the exchange to be very unreliable so I switched to coinex.pw. Unfortunately that doesn't support auto-trade, so I wrote a simple script to continuously poll my balances and submit a market sell order. It's available here: https://github.com/d...tcoin-autosell/. You'll need to go whatever exchange you use and request API keys and enter them in ~/.altcoin-autosell.config (see the example config on the github page). If someone wants to add support for other exchanges, feel free to fork and send me a pull request.

Just a thought if their depth increases since they carry so many of the coins here.

[phzi]

1-stale shares: set a time limit instead of 1 block, and advise people to set their queue depth to 0 (probably the most key thing other then intensity).  I wouldn't start rejecting these outright, because tuning your miner without regard for rejects is unlikely to give you more then a 2% benefit in hashrate, people hate rejects/stales, and it is unlikely to actually increase profits unless you also train wafflepool's miners to tune their rigs for fast switching.  A sudden jump in rejects will cause people to leave, not re-tune their rigs.

Crypsty: this, and new profitable coins, is probably why h2o of middlecoin has to pay 2 employees (to manually trade).

[chilin_dude]

Not to derail this (definitely important), but another major thing we need to discuss is Cryptsy.

Most of our current trading is done through cryptsy, since they provide an API that lets us do (almost) everything we need to do (deposit, check balances/prices, trade).  The only thing that has to be done manually is to withdraw BTC each day for payouts.

They've however, gotten slower and slower over the past days, to the point that we have ~2btc in Elacoin that still hasn't shown up (>1500 confirmations), and ~4 btc in Dogecoin that haven't shown up (>300 confirmations).

I've halted sending new amounts to cryptsy for now, as I don't want to have any more in limbo, and have started looking into what it would take to manually trade on another exchange.  Unfortunately, none of the exchanges support all of our coins (or even most of our coins), but we can always split them to multiple exchanges.  This again brings up the risk of taking time between earning coins, and being able to trade them (manually), but that seems like less of a serious detriment as cryptsy is causing the same issue (we send coins, and don't get to trade them for a many hours).

Here are the exchanges I've found, and what of our coins they support:
Vircurex:
DGC, DOGE, LTC, WDC

Bter:
LTC, BTB, CNC, DGC, DOGE, MEC, NET, TAG, WDC

MCX:
LTC, FTC, MNC, WDC

CoinEx:
CAP, CAT, DGC, DOGE, FTC, LKY, LOT, LTC, MEC, MNC, MOON, PHS, PXC, WDC

CoinsE:
ALF, DOGE, ELC, FTC, FRK, GRD, GLC, LTC, MEC, NET, SBC, SPT, TAG, WDC


CoinEx/CoinsE look to have the most matches, but for our speed, the depth is a joke (many coins sub 1 btc bid depth).  Not sure trading there is even worth it (we'd destroy their depth super quickly).

Anyone have any ideas on other exchanges that have better depth?

Just went over CoinedUp & they have the following of the ones you'd listed (didnt check others).

CoinedUp:
WDC, LTC, DOGE, CAT, TAG, FTC, LOT, MOON, SBC,
https://coinedup.com/
http://www.reddit.com/r/coinedup

[Daltonganger]

http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/76003650515/the-tale-of-the-oversized-doge-wallet

Maybe something to do with craptsy?

and another coming up trader coinmarket.io (https://www.coinmarket.io/) have a full API as it looks.

Greets

[poolwaffle]

http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/76003650515/the-tale-of-the-oversized-doge-wallet

Maybe something to do with craptsy?

and another coming up trader coinmarket.io (https://www.coinmarket.io/) have a full API as it looks.

Not the same thing unfortunately.  Withdrawal requests go to an "An error has occured" page for me.  I've got a ticket in to their support, so as soon as that gets taken care of, payouts will go out today (sorry!).  As for doge deposits (a major piece of our unexchanged), that definitely could be related.  I went in and generated a new deposit address (like they requested for faster deposits), but its still taking 12+ hours to show up there...

As for coinmarket.io, I don't think they have any trade APIs.  Its listed on their right side as "TODO", so nothing yet....

[Al1as]

Hello

What about www.cryptorush.in

It has lot of diffrent coins and also new coins that could make good profit ?

[Daltonganger]

Wow,

Olympic coin is going great. Maybe something to give a try !

Greets