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February 19, 2014, 06:30:47 PM |
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The top miner currently provides 6.10 GH/s... This clearly seems to be a botnet. I know that this give you a lot of coins, but nevertheless - most pools try to lock out botnets, because it's not only a crime, but also a huge waste of energy.
We are a large ASIC + GPU farm, no botnets. If botnets, Hashrate will up and down when people turn on and shut down they computer. But we Hashrate is stable Good 2 know... Are you guys on GridSeed?
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phzi
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February 19, 2014, 06:32:33 PM |
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I disagree. One would be crazy to point all bots to a single ip. Your server won't be able to handle all those connections. It's totally reasonable to combine a few thousands of them.
Seriously, where did you learn logic? That makes little to no sense... If you're running a mining botnet, that hashing ultimately has to all be directed somewhere. Some server is handling it, it is no less reasonable that a botnet operator would run a server to organize their mining power and fetch work from pools then just directing your drones directly at a pool - there is a single point handling everything either way. And you are talking about "this person". If it was a GPU farm, there is no way for a single person to handle all those GPUs. You will have more dead fans a day than you will be able to replace. You need dozens of people to run such a farm. Considering the amount of work to build such a farm, hire the people to manage all those rigs, dealing with electricity and so on... this is an investment if at least 5 mil. USD. And with that amount of money, it's totally lame to point all your rigs to a pool of a hobbyist (no offense - you are doing great work!). Creating a multipool just for yourself is not that complicated. Investing 5 mil. USD in a mining farm and not paying 50K USD to a software developer is very unlikely to happen. :-)
You seem to be talking about consumer hardware, which makes little sense. A key point poolwaffle made was regarding economies of scale - it would certainly not be 5mil USD, probably nowhere close. Imagine a factory that produces Sapphire cards deciding to direct their high-binned chips to a special production line that makes equipment for mining for themselves. Based on how much R9 290 chips were going for before this crazy mining craze (which means they would still be available at those prices in bulk if you have the right contacts), a farm like this could easily be built for under $2 million - and that's presuming it isn't an ODM just re-purposing their production line or something. Furthermore, creating an effective multipool with excellent switching is damn complicated... if you're in the hardware industry, that doesn't mean you have great connections to the software industry. And that money spent on a software developer would probably be better spent on firmware development to optimize your card BIOS for mining. Why not offload the pool management and coin switching work to someone like poolwaffle for a measly 1% fee? That seems perfectly reasonable to me. My suggestion: ask the operator to contact you via PM and, of course, handle all communication confidential. It's should be easy for him to provide some evidence that this is just a ultra-large GPU farm.
Ultimately, I think this is none of our business. We aren't asking you anyone else for proof that they are not running a botnet, why would that be different for someone with a few magnitudes more hashing power? The top miner currently provides 6.10 GH/s... This clearly seems to be a botnet. I know that this give you a lot of coins, but nevertheless - most pools try to lock out botnets, because it's not only a crime, but also a huge waste of energy.
We are a large ASIC + GPU farm, no botnets. If botnets, Hashrate will up and down when people turn on and shut down they computer. But we Hashrate is stable Ah there is sfire. Good stuff. Hope that resolves this conversation once and for-all. I had a feeling it was him - refer to his post history for the hints he dropped about their operation in the MC thread.
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February 19, 2014, 06:34:14 PM |
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anyway:
ARE THE POOLS DOWN ATM?
No, seems to be working fine. this is strange... i cant even reach the mainpage. anybody else from europe with same problems? (germany)
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February 19, 2014, 06:38:44 PM |
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I have 13.5MH mining the pool but only 12.1 shows as active. Is the rest my rejection rate? It seemed to be just fine these last few days. I am on the east coast server .
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February 19, 2014, 06:45:01 PM |
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I have 13.5MH mining the pool but only 12.1 shows as active. Is the rest my rejection rate? It seemed to be just fine these last few days. I am on the east coast server .
no dude you have 13.5mh but you are getting work utility at 12.1mh and of course its dynamic reject rate is amazing only 0.5% on 3 dasys mining
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February 19, 2014, 06:49:35 PM |
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The top miner currently provides 6.10 GH/s... This clearly seems to be a botnet. I know that this give you a lot of coins, but nevertheless - most pools try to lock out botnets, because it's not only a crime, but also a huge waste of energy.
We are a large ASIC + GPU farm, no botnets. If botnets, Hashrate will up and down when people turn on and shut down they computer. But we Hashrate is stable what ASIC?!
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February 19, 2014, 06:52:21 PM |
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The top miner currently provides 6.10 GH/s... This clearly seems to be a botnet. I know that this give you a lot of coins, but nevertheless - most pools try to lock out botnets, because it's not only a crime, but also a huge waste of energy.
We are a large ASIC + GPU farm, no botnets. If botnets, Hashrate will up and down when people turn on and shut down they computer. But we Hashrate is stable what ASIC?! yup +1 on that !!!!!! scrypt asic???
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phzi
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February 19, 2014, 07:02:06 PM |
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The top miner currently provides 6.10 GH/s... This clearly seems to be a botnet. I know that this give you a lot of coins, but nevertheless - most pools try to lock out botnets, because it's not only a crime, but also a huge waste of energy.
We are a large ASIC + GPU farm, no botnets. If botnets, Hashrate will up and down when people turn on and shut down they computer. But we Hashrate is stable what ASIC?! yup +1 on that !!!!!! scrypt asic??? Comes on guys... try looking thru his post history before asking questions that are already answered.
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February 19, 2014, 07:10:05 PM |
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best I cal tell he is running 50,000 gridseed chips then?
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February 19, 2014, 07:22:23 PM |
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best I cal tell he is running 50,000 gridseed chips then?
my math sucks, but I just figure hes got a shitload of the 5 chip gridseed pods and probably shelves full of usb hubs with the usb sticks with a few racks of 7990 rigs bravo sfire! I envy you and your operation
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February 19, 2014, 07:28:06 PM |
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from sfire before he moved from middlecoin to wafflepool: Pilot is 1.2TH Scrypt mining lab. Maybe 50000 of these chips with 1/40 of the GPU powertake. This Scrypt Hashpower would translate to around what 2000 AMD GPU cards.. with powertake +300kwh.. Just rough numbers i could assume wrong. but hey i would wanna see that 2000 GPU farm Grin http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1M3jtksp1upR33SX1VzeCfH5x9fc6zKykR.html GC3355 is on public sale. At BeiJing time 2014-1-14 18:00PM. Mail 1 day after pay. one USB Machine = 360K LTC + 10G BTC (when only mining LTC is 7w, both mining LTC & BTC is 60w) http://cybtc.com/thread-4792-1-1.htmlGod bless LTC
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February 19, 2014, 07:57:55 PM |
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pretty neat. too bad i cannot make heads or tails of that chinese forum post even when translated by google.
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February 19, 2014, 07:59:50 PM Last edit: February 19, 2014, 08:22:19 PM by GoldMath |
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Hey, I made a new banner for the /r/wafflepool, check it out !
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bigblind
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February 19, 2014, 08:12:32 PM |
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can anybody please help me.... this is very strange and i cant explain why that is. i cant connect through my provider to waffle anymore. neither with a browser nor with mining software (sgminer says: wrong URL?) But when i connect with my iphone via mobile internet everything is ok.... ? im running 3 rigs and my laptop and i cant connect to it!
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February 19, 2014, 08:55:51 PM |
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Mmm... Waffle I like it Here is another one
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February 19, 2014, 08:59:06 PM |
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can anybody please help me.... this is very strange and i cant explain why that is. i cant connect through my provider to waffle anymore. neither with a browser nor with mining software (sgminer says: wrong URL?) But when i connect with my iphone via mobile internet everything is ok.... ? im running 3 rigs and my laptop and i cant connect to it! So, have you tried to ping it? PING uswest.wafflepool.com (192.241.238.54): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=43.273 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=42.435 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=47.882 ms PING useast.wafflepool.com (162.243.53.32): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=99.836 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=102.383 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=104.001 ms
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February 19, 2014, 09:06:14 PM |
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can anybody please help me.... this is very strange and i cant explain why that is. i cant connect through my provider to waffle anymore. neither with a browser nor with mining software (sgminer says: wrong URL?) But when i connect with my iphone via mobile internet everything is ok.... ? im running 3 rigs and my laptop and i cant connect to it! So, have you tried to ping it? PING uswest.wafflepool.com (192.241.238.54): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=43.273 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=42.435 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=47.882 ms PING useast.wafflepool.com (162.243.53.32): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=99.836 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=102.383 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=104.001 ms its just telling me host not found....
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February 19, 2014, 09:09:13 PM |
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can anybody please help me.... this is very strange and i cant explain why that is. i cant connect through my provider to waffle anymore. neither with a browser nor with mining software (sgminer says: wrong URL?) But when i connect with my iphone via mobile internet everything is ok.... ? im running 3 rigs and my laptop and i cant connect to it! So, have you tried to ping it? PING uswest.wafflepool.com (192.241.238.54): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=43.273 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=42.435 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=47.882 ms PING useast.wafflepool.com (162.243.53.32): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=99.836 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=102.383 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=104.001 ms its just telling me host not found.... try pinging by IP - if it works then something is wrong with your/ISP DNS, if not - it might be blocked by your/ISP firewall
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February 19, 2014, 09:10:35 PM |
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can anybody please help me.... this is very strange and i cant explain why that is. i cant connect through my provider to waffle anymore. neither with a browser nor with mining software (sgminer says: wrong URL?) But when i connect with my iphone via mobile internet everything is ok.... ? im running 3 rigs and my laptop and i cant connect to it! So, have you tried to ping it? PING uswest.wafflepool.com (192.241.238.54): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=43.273 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=42.435 ms 64 bytes from 192.241.238.54: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=47.882 ms PING useast.wafflepool.com (162.243.53.32): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=99.836 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=102.383 ms 64 bytes from 162.243.53.32: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=104.001 ms its just telling me host not found.... try pinging by IP - if it works then something is wrong with your/ISP DNS, if not - it might be blocked by your/ISP firewall ok, by IP it works! what i got to do now to connect to it again? can you also tell me the IP for the EU server? (its the closest)
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February 19, 2014, 09:14:46 PM |
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PING eu.wafflepool.com (95.85.28.31): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 95.85.28.31: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=173.993 ms 64 bytes from 95.85.28.31: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=176.503 ms 64 bytes from 95.85.28.31: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=174.169 ms
Looks like you have some DNS issues... try ipconfig /flushdns if you are on Windows... If that does not work try rebooting your router.
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