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Author Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com  (Read 465537 times)
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June 02, 2014, 03:56:28 AM
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Any idea what's going on with the stats? The new one shows a balance about half of that of the old stats page.

What do you mean?  Both stats pages are available, are you seeing differences between them (outside of formatting)?

Ahh never mind, user stupidity Smiley I was looking at the bottom figure expecting it to be 'Earned (not yet sent)'

My apologies.
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June 02, 2014, 04:16:02 AM
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I have a problem with a payout two days ago:

https://blockchain.info/tx/777e28f50b22cc32afb885e819eb485c84a1334f4fe1f6056a0d18a48d01a576
Here it shows as unconfirmed,

but in my wallet it's confirmed and the ammount is missing from my total balance.
the total balance on blockchain includes the ammount of that tx.

I'm confused here.

Confused me for a second too (and double confused me because no one else had complained yet - if a transaction takes more than an hour to confirm, I normally get emails).

It just looks like an error with how blockchain is linking to specific transactions.  That transaction first got included in a block that was later orphaned, and when you lookup the transaction on blockchain, they pull it up in the block that was orphaned (0 confirmations).  The transaction was also included in the correct (non-orphaned) block, and that's why you're seeing it as fine in your client (and why we haven't had any complaints).

Here's the link to the transaction (orphaned block): https://blockchain.info/tx/777e28f50b22cc32afb885e819eb485c84a1334f4fe1f6056a0d18a48d01a576
Here's the link to the orphaned block it was seen in: https://blockchain.info/block-index/421582/00000000000000000591be5b8e4ec5fd6f94833c2490d59619faa6cdf55ddad8
And here's the accepted block that it is also in (and confirmed): https://blockchain.info/block-index/417823/0000000000000000634019c8795075690f4346035c49fa38e1385c7c5afc3490

If you open those 2 blocks, and do a ctrl-f for the transaction, you'll find it in both, one confirmed, one orphaned.  Your client ignores the one that was orphaned, shows the one that was confirmed, and everyone goes about their business Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 02:21:56 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2014, 03:04:37 PM by edonkey
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I'm having trouble accessing the web site this morning. Sometimes it works and sometimes it hangs with a CloudFlare error. Even when it works, I can't seem to access the nscript stats, either globally for the site or for my miners.

Mining seems to be working though, according to my rigs. At least they are submitting shares.

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June 02, 2014, 04:08:49 PM
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Any idea what's going on with the stats? The new one shows a balance about half of that of the old stats page.

What do you mean?  Both stats pages are available, are you seeing differences between them (outside of formatting)?

Ahh never mind, user stupidity Smiley I was looking at the bottom figure expecting it to be 'Earned (not yet sent)'

My apologies.

No worries.  We've had a few people complain about that not being there any more (Earned+Unconverted), essentially how much you should expect in the near future.  Which has been added, as well as the totals for hashrates across all workers (by algorithm).

Going to make the new stats page the default, and link to the old one from there.  Let me know if there is still anything missing/confusing on the new one Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 04:17:55 PM
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It would be nice if the Recent Payouts list indicated which pool they came from.

I got a little confused this morning because I got a payout that looked smaller than expected. Turns out that that payout was from the nscrypt pool, and was preceded by the expected larger payment from the scrypt pool.

Web site access is still spotty this morning, but it looks like maybe you're bringing nscrypt out of beta and changing the site accordingly.

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June 02, 2014, 04:29:11 PM
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It would be nice if the Recent Payouts list indicated which pool they came from.

I got a little confused this morning because I got a payout that looked smaller than expected. Turns out that that payout was from the nscrypt pool, and was preceded by the expected larger payment from the scrypt pool.

Web site access is still spotty this morning, but it looks like maybe you're bringing nscrypt out of beta and changing the site accordingly.

This is correct.  Its most likely when scripts sync out (a few seconds where things get cached funny) Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
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Scrypt-N is officially out of beta.

Mining details/quickstart is on the homepage, if you're a GPU miner, might be worth looking into Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
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I don't know where else to post this, but wafflepoolmonitor is displaying an error at the top of the page:

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Warning: Division by zero in /home/content/26/11913126/html/wafflepool/index.php on line 450

Maybe the recent changes for script-n are providing new or different JSON values to the API that wafflepoolmonitor doesn't handle yet?

Note that this just seems to be cosmetic. Wafflepoolmonitor seems to largely work, even with the recent changes.

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June 02, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
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I don't know where else to post this, but wafflepoolmonitor is displaying an error at the top of the page:

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Warning: Division by zero in /home/content/26/11913126/html/wafflepool/index.php on line 450

Maybe the recent changes for script-n are providing new or different JSON values to the API that wafflepoolmonitor doesn't handle yet?

Note that this just seems to be cosmetic. Wafflepoolmonitor seems to largely work, even with the recent changes.

They might be scraping data instead of using the API somewhere...
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June 02, 2014, 07:24:22 PM
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Hi Waffle,

Thanks for the quickstart guides. Under "Scrypt-N Mining" The link says "sph-sgminer (all miners)" but it forwards to TheKev Vertminer. Error in link title?
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June 02, 2014, 07:37:04 PM
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Thanks for the quickstart guides. Under "Scrypt-N Mining" The link says "sph-sgminer (all miners)" but it forwards to TheKev Vertminer. Error in link title?

Yep, fixing that now (good catch).  I went back and forth between linking to sgminer/vertminer, switched the link, didn't switch the title Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 07:37:50 PM
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Thanks for the quickstart guides. Under "Scrypt-N Mining" The link says "sph-sgminer (all miners)" but it forwards to TheKev Vertminer. Error in link title?

Yep, fixing that now (good catch).  I went back and forth between linking to sgminer/vertminer, switched the link, didn't switch the title Smiley

Glad to be of service Wink
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June 02, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
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Now scrypt-n is out of beta i'm looking forward to mining with x11  Cool
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June 02, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
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Now scrypt-n is out of beta i'm looking forward to mining with x11  Cool

I'm actually working on the updates for calculations now (a bit more complex than Scrypt --> Scrypt-N), but shouldn't take too long Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 09:03:20 PM
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I don't know where else to post this, but wafflepoolmonitor is displaying an error at the top of the page:

Code:
Warning: Division by zero in /home/content/26/11913126/html/wafflepool/index.php on line 450

Maybe the recent changes for script-n are providing new or different JSON values to the API that wafflepoolmonitor doesn't handle yet?

Note that this just seems to be cosmetic. Wafflepoolmonitor seems to largely work, even with the recent changes.

Hi, the error has been corrected,some pool stats are taken from wafflepool stats page and due to recent changes it got messed up.
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June 02, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
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I don't know where else to post this, but wafflepoolmonitor is displaying an error at the top of the page:

Code:
Warning: Division by zero in /home/content/26/11913126/html/wafflepool/index.php on line 450

Maybe the recent changes for script-n are providing new or different JSON values to the API that wafflepoolmonitor doesn't handle yet?

Note that this just seems to be cosmetic. Wafflepoolmonitor seems to largely work, even with the recent changes.

Hi, the error has been corrected,some pool stats are taken from wafflepool stats page and due to recent changes it got messed up.

Can I ask which stats you're looking for that aren't on the new stats page?  Would probably be trivial to add them to the API (scraping is the ugly answer) Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 10:03:47 PM
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I hate to be whiney, but can we have server time at least on the bottom of the page? I reference it all the time, and it seems it was sacrificed to make room for the top stats.

Love all the other changes! Nice work.
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June 02, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
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I hate to be whiney, but can we have server time at least on the bottom of the page? I reference it all the time, and it seems it was sacrificed to make room for the top stats.

Love all the other changes! Nice work.

Added in the footer.  Server times are all in UTC Smiley
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June 02, 2014, 10:11:04 PM
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Thanks, you're on fire today with the quickness.


ONE OTHER QUESTION:
Example:
https://i.imgur.com/LvdjTXD.png

What happened to the scrypt-n vsLTC stats? Yesterday these numbers were mostly in the 200%+... how is it these numbers have changed after the fact? Was there an error in the original calculation?

I see you've updated your FAQ:  http://wafflepool.com/faq#normalized
Is this a change implemented just today, as in it was previously calculated without the 0.47?
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June 02, 2014, 10:19:59 PM
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Thanks, you're on fire today with the quickness.


ONE OTHER QUESTION:
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What happened to the scrypt-n vsLTC stats? Yesterday these numbers were mostly in the 200%+... how is it these numbers have changed after the fact? Was there an error in the original calculation?

I see you've updated your FAQ:  http://wafflepool.com/faq#normalized
Is this a change implemented just today, as in it was previously calculated without the 0.47?

This is correct.  Previously it was raw BTC per MHs values, but to make it a fair comparison (mostly for the header), it has been normalized to BTC per Scrypt MHs.  Don't want people looking up there being like "WTF, I changed to mining Scrypt-N and I'm not making 2x what I was before!".  If Scrypt was 100%, and Scrypt-N was 105% for the day, moving your exact same miner (assuming properly calibrated) would earn 5% more that day.

This has more of an impact on the new algorithms (one of the reasons it was changed), for example, you'll get roughly 4x the hashrate on X11, and showing them all separately becomes a chore to memorize, normalization makes it a very quick comparison Smiley
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