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[bigbitmine]

Betarigs, after being taken over by new owners, is far worse when it comes to quality. What is actually happening? Are your programmers completely lame and can't do things the proper way?

In what way? We can only fix stuff we know about?

I get the impression Betarigs is a 1 man band.  And has support issues.  Specifically support tickets.  Given up waiting for promised refunds for bad rigs.

Recently mentioned some new features which I'm not sure if we'll see or not.

If Betarigs needs some help, even volunteers they should ask.  I'd be more than happy helping as I use the site a lot and my job is bitcoin mining so I'm sat staring at the site all day anyway.

[mrbodz]

Betarigs, after being taken over by new owners, is far worse when it comes to quality. What is actually happening? Are your programmers completely lame and can't do things the proper way?

In what way? We can only fix stuff we know about?

I get the impression Betarigs is a 1 man band.  And has support issues.  Specifically support tickets.  Given up waiting for promised refunds for bad rigs.

Recently mentioned some new features which I'm not sure if we'll see or not.

If Betarigs needs some help, even volunteers they should ask.  I'd be more than happy helping as I use the site a lot and my job is bitcoin mining so I'm sat staring at the site all day anyway.

It's a 2 man band atm. support ticket's can sometimes be an issue due to timezones. From what i could tell there were 5 support staf when mux ran the site while now there's 2. We are aiming to get support tickets as minimalized as possible too. E.G. I'm currently building a system whereby a user such as yourself can make a payment not recognised or rig offline ticket and the outcome is auto-determined and a refund given as appropriate (or flagged for one of us staff to resolve if needed)

Which bad rigs dont have a refund? (We have about 10 rig's waiting a refund but a number dont have a btc address since some people dont provide us with them at the time they make the tickets)

Ahmed

[vortexz]

Dear Ahmed, I have once again an old unrecived payment:

#200989

please check

Thank you

[bigbitmine]

Betarigs, after being taken over by new owners, is far worse when it comes to quality. What is actually happening? Are your programmers completely lame and can't do things the proper way?

In what way? We can only fix stuff we know about?

I get the impression Betarigs is a 1 man band.  And has support issues.  Specifically support tickets.  Given up waiting for promised refunds for bad rigs.

Recently mentioned some new features which I'm not sure if we'll see or not.

If Betarigs needs some help, even volunteers they should ask.  I'd be more than happy helping as I use the site a lot and my job is bitcoin mining so I'm sat staring at the site all day anyway.

It's a 2 man band atm. support ticket's can sometimes be an issue due to timezones. From what i could tell there were 5 support staf when mux ran the site while now there's 2. We are aiming to get support tickets as minimalized as possible too. E.G. I'm currently building a system whereby a user such as yourself can make a payment not recognised or rig offline ticket and the outcome is auto-determined and a refund given as appropriate (or flagged for one of us staff to resolve if needed)

Which bad rigs dont have a refund? (We have about 10 rig's waiting a refund but a number dont have a btc address since some people dont provide us with them at the time they make the tickets)

Ahmed

As follows from yourself:

for Ticket 158402 a refund request was filed for you by the other staff, waiting for the rental to end.
for Ticket 201463 a refund request was filed for you by the other staff. The rental's ended now so i've given you a 70% refund

Both tickets had BTC address 1LqhShMwHoSYpLxbMBCiJZkPTy3dUn3zxX attached.

Also, only a minor detail but probably an easy fix but Betarigs emails are still signed Mux.

Cheers.

Also, I'd be willing to volunteer to help with support if you want.

[mrbodz]

Dear Ahmed, I have once again an old unrecived payment:

#200989

please check

Thank you

Sent just now

Ahmed

[mrbodz]

Betarigs, after being taken over by new owners, is far worse when it comes to quality. What is actually happening? Are your programmers completely lame and can't do things the proper way?

In what way? We can only fix stuff we know about?

I get the impression Betarigs is a 1 man band.  And has support issues.  Specifically support tickets.  Given up waiting for promised refunds for bad rigs.

Recently mentioned some new features which I'm not sure if we'll see or not.

If Betarigs needs some help, even volunteers they should ask.  I'd be more than happy helping as I use the site a lot and my job is bitcoin mining so I'm sat staring at the site all day anyway.

It's a 2 man band atm. support ticket's can sometimes be an issue due to timezones. From what i could tell there were 5 support staf when mux ran the site while now there's 2. We are aiming to get support tickets as minimalized as possible too. E.G. I'm currently building a system whereby a user such as yourself can make a payment not recognised or rig offline ticket and the outcome is auto-determined and a refund given as appropriate (or flagged for one of us staff to resolve if needed)

Which bad rigs dont have a refund? (We have about 10 rig's waiting a refund but a number dont have a btc address since some people dont provide us with them at the time they make the tickets)

Ahmed

As follows from yourself:

for Ticket 158402 a refund request was filed for you by the other staff, waiting for the rental to end.
for Ticket 201463 a refund request was filed for you by the other staff. The rental's ended now so i've given you a 70% refund

Both tickets had BTC address 1LqhShMwHoSYpLxbMBCiJZkPTy3dUn3zxX attached.

Also, only a minor detail but probably an easy fix but Betarigs emails are still signed Mux.

Cheers.

Also, I'd be willing to volunteer to help with support if you want.

Sent out a 90% refund on 402 now
Sent out a 70% refund on 463 yesterday

Updated the emails too

Thanks
Ahmed

[toptekk]

Hey  Amed


food for thought, i know it's MRR but they give refunds as a automatic thing if the rigs under preforms . just some thing to think about . i used both MRR and this one some times prices there are more reason able then here .



I got like 4 to 5 partial refunds due to under preformed rigs, again, like I said it's food for thought . it might help you all on tickets etc . might take a little to put some thing like that in but will be worth it, I'm sure.

[mrbodz]

Hey  Amed


food for thought, i know it's MRR but they give refunds as a automatic thing if the rigs under preforms . just some thing to think about . i used both MRR and this one some times prices there are more reason able then here .



I got like 4 to 5 partial refunds due to under preformed rigs, again, like I said it's food for thought . it might help you all on tickets etc . might take a little to put some thing like that in but will be worth it, I'm sure.

Hey tekk.

Yep tis one of the things on the todo list. (Actually on the top of my todo list)

Ahmed

[quakefiend420]

Dear Ahmed, I have once again an old unrecived payment:

#200989

please check

Thank you

Sent just now

Ahmed

I have the same thing, #200589.

Thanks!

[quakefiend420]

Hey  Amed


food for thought, i know it's MRR but they give refunds as a automatic thing if the rigs under preforms . just some thing to think about . i used both MRR and this one some times prices there are more reason able then here .



I got like 4 to 5 partial refunds due to under preformed rigs, again, like I said it's food for thought . it might help you all on tickets etc . might take a little to put some thing like that in but will be worth it, I'm sure.

That's a double edged sword.  So if my renter chooses a pool/coin that doesn't perform well(this is especially common in scrypt and other algorithms where multipools and weird parameters such as 30 second blocks and diff retargets every block are common) then I get penalized for it?  My hardware is rated properly and performs well under normal circumstances, and if there are issues(rare) I comp with extra time.

Also, I've had renters in the past who rented a 350MH scrypt rig and bitched cause it averaged 338.  In the real world there are many factors that influence average hashrate, and most are out of the control of the rig owner.

[mrbodz]

Hey  Amed


food for thought, i know it's MRR but they give refunds as a automatic thing if the rigs under preforms . just some thing to think about . i used both MRR and this one some times prices there are more reason able then here .



I got like 4 to 5 partial refunds due to under preformed rigs, again, like I said it's food for thought . it might help you all on tickets etc . might take a little to put some thing like that in but will be worth it, I'm sure.

That's a double edged sword.  So if my renter chooses a pool/coin that doesn't perform well(this is especially common in scrypt and other algorithms where multipools and weird parameters such as 30 second blocks and diff retargets every block are common) then I get penalized for it?  My hardware is rated properly and performs well under normal circumstances, and if there are issues(rare) I comp with extra time.

Also, I've had renters in the past who rented a 350MH scrypt rig and bitched cause it averaged 338.  In the real world there are many factors that influence average hashrate, and most are out of the control of the rig owner.

You raise some good points. However i'm an ex stratum dev and pool op so i've got good experience in how to determine the quality of a pool and the factors in how a rig hashes against it. This means i can easily tell what the issue is with a rental when a ticket is filed. And can re-purpose some of the pool offline scripts from my old pool and code it with some checks to ensure things are fair. 

Essentially aslong as the rig reports in every few minutes, Sends atleast 1 share every 10 minute, (may code up a more relative share rate based on the diff + hashrate) then it'd be safe under the new refund system

[Gladimor]

Why should I (a renter) use Betarigs as opposed to NH?

When you put an order on NiceHash, someone can overcut you, and take your hashrate away from you. With BetaRigs, when you order hashrate, the hashrate belongs to you until the specified duration ends.

[Gladimor]

Why should I (a renter) use Betarigs as opposed to NH?

When you put an order on NiceHash, someone can overcut you, and take your hashrate away from you. With BetaRigs, when you order hashrate, the hashrate belongs to you until the specified duration ends.

This used to be the case, but NH now offers fixed rentals. (Just want to clarify I'm not promoting them, just want to give you a chance to convince me)

Ah, I wasn't aware of that feature. I am a user of both Nicehash and Betarigs

[mrbodz]

Why should I (a renter) use Betarigs as opposed to NH?

When you put an order on NiceHash, someone can overcut you, and take your hashrate away from you. With BetaRigs, when you order hashrate, the hashrate belongs to you until the specified duration ends.

This used to be the case, but NH now offers fixed rentals. (Just want to clarify I'm not promoting them, just want to give you a chance to convince me)

Hopefully our service, our support of not just BTC but various altcoin's. Our willingess to constantly improve our service to make sure you get the best our of your money.

Ahmed

[toptekk]

Hey  Amed


food for thought, i know it's MRR but they give refunds as a automatic thing if the rigs under preforms . just some thing to think about . i used both MRR and this one some times prices there are more reason able then here .



I got like 4 to 5 partial refunds due to under preformed rigs, again, like I said it's food for thought . it might help you all on tickets etc . might take a little to put some thing like that in but will be worth it, I'm sure.

That's a double edged sword.  So if my renter chooses a pool/coin that doesn't perform well(this is especially common in scrypt and other algorithms where multipools and weird parameters such as 30 second blocks and diff retargets every block are common) then I get penalized for it?  My hardware is rated properly and performs well under normal circumstances, and if there are issues(rare) I comp with extra time.

Also, I've had renters in the past who rented a 350MH scrypt rig and bitched cause it averaged 338.  In the real world there are many factors that influence average hashrate, and most are out of the control of the rig owner.

it doesn't work like that or does not seems to there. form what ive been refunded  it was bad rigs not bad sites . i rented one for a week there it  never once  reached what it claimed it would 2.5 TH best it did was may be 2 if that and got worse as time went on . the rating systems it has,it has to match up to, not the site your on . if your rig is  off line for 20 mins the owner, its a refund automatic or something like that  . i never once run any thing on a bad pool if i know it's the pool then I  move it or if  the speeds sux i move it to make sure .  i kind of  do this for money my self so I'm watching it all, all most all day long , some times for hours at nite. i have yet to put in a ticket on MRR but may have to  for a x11 rental i rented maybe not thu if there rule is followed .I hate putting in tickets and getting tech support  (I do mean hate it ) some of the moron's that run tech departments don't know jack or even listen to what you tell them over the phone etc . I mine alt coins to just not  mufti pooling  that's waste of money and time imo . unless its sites like westhash to me that's just a little bit diff. My main BTC mining site i all way have  at least 3 to 7 TH  is  http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/  I love that site I have  seen  pool luck go as high as 10 K or higher. I'm not kidding .

[Rum152]

Why should I (a renter) use Betarigs as opposed to NH?

When you put an order on NiceHash, someone can overcut you, and take your hashrate away from you. With BetaRigs, when you order hashrate, the hashrate belongs to you until the specified duration ends.

This used to be the case, but NH now offers fixed rentals. (Just want to clarify I'm not promoting them, just want to give you a chance to convince me)

There are no better than NiceHash sites for getting hashpower. I will now tell you why.

1. In 99% cases, prices are there the lowest to buy, which is understandable, because buyers determine them, not miners. Yesterday, you could get SHA256 power for as little as 0.0075 for many hours. You could earn quite some amount mining bitcoins. I earned net 0.22, but I could have more if I invested more. I could never earn extra on plain bitcoin mining if I hired from here or MRR, because miners always set their prices so high.

2. You never have to worry about not getting what you pay for. This means you save time, because you don't have to write tickets. Think about wasted time dealing with support on MRR or BetaRigs.

3. With their new features such as bot and fixed orders, overbidding is the past. I haven't tried bot yet, but I put fixed orders many times, because in 90% of cases, fixed prices are still lower than cheapest rigs here or MRR. Cheapest rigs usually give you the most problems and tickets writting, so you need to buy a bit more expensive rig and that rig usually have higher price, too.

4. Save time when renting. This one goes both way, even if you are a miner, NiceHash is a pool - you don't have to bother about setting price and constantly watch what are the rates to maximize profit. When you hire rigs, you need time to analyze each rig, check feedbacks and the determine if it is worth hiring. If this is one rig, it is not a big issue, but when you hire more, this can suck quite some time - time which you could spend doing something else more profitable. There are larger farms to hire - MRR has quite some of them - but these are in most cases way too high on price, sometimes owners want 100% more for them compared to smaller rigs. I never understood and I still don't what is the benefit of hiring so expensive farms, because at the end od the day, you loose. And if it is for gambling purposes, then there are better ways to gamble, where your luck is more near 50% (casino?) - in this situation is more near 5% only.

5. High risk due to inability to cancel rental. This is very important when you are on a heist to actually earn coins from hiring not only gamble. Things can quickly turn, coin diff may quickly rise or price can quickly drop. If you are locked in long term rental, you will, at the end, only make loss, even if the price at start was promising you profit. That is why short time rentals are prefered, but again funny thing I noticed is that rigs available for short time are more expensive.

The only way to earn more coins from BetaRigs or MRR is to put your rigs for rental with higher price and feed on suckers that are stupid enough to gamble with your rigs. But this requires time. And I didn't buy my ants to spend extra time constantly monitoring market. I bought them to generate me steady maximal mining profit without my time, because as soon as I spend time with them, ROI increases. That is why I decided to let my ants on NiceHash/WestHash and stop spending time constantly adjusting price. And rather focus this time in opportunities like yesterday, when SHA256 price was so low.

[bigbitmine]

I use Nicehash, Betarigs and MiningRigRentals.  Nicehash gets probably 90%+ of my BTC because I don't have to look for a cheap rate.  It just sits there and once the miners start on my price off it goes.

I also rent a rig on Betarigs and Nicehash.  The rate is fairly high so they don't get rented often (although someone has rented it for a week).

[toptekk]

Don't forget this site https://www.mintsy.co/  once it out of beta which it is in, or  some kind of  testing, i got e mail a week so back asking me to join, i deleted it like a fool not thinking and realy don't care to much atm if i see it or not, but it  looks like it's going to be some thing like west/nice hash .



Yea i  gonna go try fix pricing again on the weathash, i had issue with how to use it with how much i want to spend but yes you can do better parking your home miners there or using your home miners some place else then buy from there .


What I find very impressive is X11 mining I remember at one time or thought when it first started it was not that great i used it with my AMD cards then.  it does not cost much any place if you stack enough MH the rewards roll in .

[mrbodz]

Don't forget this site https://www.mintsy.co/  once it out of beta which it is in, or  some kind of  testing, i got e mail a week so back asking me to join, i deleted it like a fool not thinking and realy don't care to much atm if i see it or not, but it  looks like it's going to be some thing like west/nice hash .



Yea i  gonna go try fix pricing again on the weathash, i had issue with how to use it with how much i want to spend but yes you can do better parking your home miners there or using your home miners some place else then buy from there .


What I find very impressive is X11 mining I remember at one time or thought when it first started it was not that great i used it with my AMD cards then.  it does not cost much any place if you stack enough MH the rewards roll in .

We are actually working with the mintsy guys on this which i'm sure many people here will enjoy

Article Link:  www.coindesk.com/miners-split-sell-hash-rates-betarigs/


Ahmed

[toptekk]

Don't forget this site https://www.mintsy.co/  once it out of beta which it is in, or  some kind of  testing, i got e mail a week so back asking me to join, i deleted it like a fool not thinking and realy don't care to much atm if i see it or not, but it  looks like it's going to be some thing like west/nice hash .



Yea i  gonna go try fix pricing again on the weathash, i had issue with how to use it with how much i want to spend but yes you can do better parking your home miners there or using your home miners some place else then buy from there .


What I find very impressive is X11 mining I remember at one time or thought when it first started it was not that great i used it with my AMD cards then.  it does not cost much any place if you stack enough MH the rewards roll in .

We are actually working with the mintsy guys on this which i'm sure many people here will enjoy

Article Link:  www.coindesk.com/miners-split-sell-hash-rates-betarigs/


Ahmed

Can't wait, mintsy looks very new and might in force bit coins that much more by in force i don't mean push it down our throats .