[ANN][KARM] Karmacoin - New Initiatives - Helping People Do Good

[UKGunner]

How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

[jwcplanet]

How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman

I can create a private forum for the leadership at karmacointalk.org if that works?

[Karmagood]

How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.

[UKGunner]

How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.

I have no specific cause there are many there that are worth it, maybe a weekly or monthly community vote could be done through the website or here. Could list a amount of causes from that site or any other place with many causes, setup a bounty address for the community to donate through and then at the end of the poll send the donation through to the winner. Or get some type of plugin that sites like that could use to have Karmacoin donated directly through there website you never know if some big charity like Cancer Research or Oxfam had a plugin on there pages to donate Karmacoin it would get out to millions of people.

Just a few ideas to try help the coin and spread some good

[ShawnLeary]

I'm hanging in the #karmacoingood channel on the chat.freenode.net if anyone wants to chat and throw some more ideas around.

SL

[ShawnLeary]

How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.

I like www.patronsofthehearts.org, they bring kids to Wolfon's Children's Hospital, Jacksonville, FL for lifesaving cardiac procedures from underprivileged parts of the world.  Think its around $5k to sponsor a child.  I will talk to the founders and see if they are interested, could be a good option.  Its a direct individual child that gets saved and then they go back to their country and become an ambassador of good will, and good karma? 

[bitwho]

uuu ..  why don't i see me name on that list?  i've been promoting this coin nonstop. Since the begging

[dukektm]

nice logo karma coin...power coin

[ptman]

This coin is gonna be big :-)
Lots of interesting ideas being discussed!

How can a coin with 155 thread pages be worth 1 satoshi!!!

I expect 10+ satoshi in a week time.

[ShawnLeary]

This coin is gonna be big :-)
Lots of interesting ideas being discussed!

How can a coin with 155 thread pages be worth 1 satoshi!!!

I expect 10+ satoshi in a week time.

What killed us was the mining profitability was based on coinmarket.io.  When they paused trading last week its basically killed the volume and price.  I don't have my finger on the pulse of the miners but I can imagine with they flooded the market to unload their karma it dropped the price and a few chicken littles did as well.  We are barely a month old, we are working out the kinks and will get the Karma train back on the tracks soon!

[bitwho]

How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman

if you guys have read form the beggining. #karmateam is the IRC chat i created to brainstorm before. you're all welcome to come there and lets discuss strategies

[jtpeters]

@karmacoingood

I know the natural inclination for this sort of organic development goes against the following, but it would really help us to get organized and work efficiently. Let me know your thoughts:

1) Decide on the mission statement and make everyone clear about the direction of Karmacoin.

2) Brainstorm to put together a short list of all the things that we need to do in the next 3-6 months. Take a look at other successful and up-and-coming coins (Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Reddcoin, etc) and see what can be borrowed.

3) Get volunteers to take ownership of a part of the task list and have them set their own deadlines and sub-tasks. Even if they can't do it themselves, they can make it their job to find someone to do it.

4) Centralize the task list (I recommend Zoho Projects or some other efficient system)

5) Nominate one person to manage the task list and make sure things get done, and the list is thorough and organized.

6) Regularly communicate on every Karmacoin channel about what we're up to

I know it sounds a bit bureaucratic, but getting organized I think is our first priority. Otherwise, our progress will be exceedingly slow. We still haven't seemed to decide on a logo, slogan, brand, mission statement, etc., because we are not yet organized. It is the difference between success and failure. If we succeed without being organized, that's just luck.

After that, I think the priority is to polish the website to make it more user-friendly and easier to find out what Karmacoin is about and navigate the website.

Some notes about design and branding

We need 1 or 2 people that have experience in website UX and/or graphic design/marketing to make decisions related to UX and design/marketing. (Alternatively, putting together a contest on 99designs and tweaking the submissions as we go along.) We then need to survey 10+ people that 1) are not a part of Karmacoin but may possibly be in future; 2) our target market, to find out how they feel about Karmacoin from the logo/brand

If we have a couple of people here designing and working to continually please a large number of non-designers who have every manner of concerns about design, progress will be nearly impossible.

We're a coin, but "Karmacoin" is still a brand and should be treated as any global brand would be. This is perhaps the most important decision we'll make, and one that needs to be done quickly. Whenever the democratic process is inserted into design decisions chaos ensues. This is what has happened to us. The only voting that should take place is surveying people that do not yet have a stake in Karmacoin. (non-technical people that will be the greatest majority of future users)

In the following link, Marissa Meyer of Yahoo chronicles what happened when they did the same thing that Karmacoin did. The result? A bad logo that was out of touch with what users wanted:  http://marissamayr.tumblr.com/post/60336044815/geeking-out-on-the-logo. Read "Yahoo's Branding Disaster" here: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/09/yahoos-branding-disaster/

Here, a few people got together to do a memorial for the Jewish Holocaust, and ended up creating a memorial in comic sans font (!) http://fontsinuse.com/uses/2274/war-memorial-in-geffen-nl

Good design will cost a few hundred dollars, but bad design (out of touch with target market) will end up costing us a lot more.

[Karmagood]

@karmacoingood

I know the natural inclination for this sort of organic development goes against the following, but it would really help us to get organized and work efficiently. Let me know your thoughts:

1) Decide on the mission statement and make everyone clear about the direction of Karmacoin.

2) Brainstorm to put together a short list of all the things that we need to do in the next 3-6 months. Take a look at other successful and up-and-coming coins (Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Reddcoin, etc) and see what can be borrowed.

3) Get volunteers to take ownership of a part of the task list and have them set their own deadlines and sub-tasks. Even if they can't do it themselves, they can make it their job to find someone to do it.

4) Centralize the task list (I recommend Zoho Projects or some other efficient system)

5) Nominate one person to manage the task list and make sure things get done, and the list is thorough and organized.

6) Regularly communicate on every Karmacoin channel about what we're up to

I know it sounds a bit bureaucratic, but getting organized I think is our first priority. Otherwise, our progress will be exceedingly slow. We still haven't seemed to decide on a logo, slogan, brand, mission statement, etc., because we are not yet organized. It is the difference between success and failure. If we succeed without being organized, that's just luck.

After that, I think the priority is to polish the website to make it more user-friendly and easier to find out what Karmacoin is about and navigate the website.

Some notes about design and branding

We need 1 or 2 people that have experience in website UX and/or graphic design/marketing to make decisions related to UX and design/marketing. (Alternatively, putting together a contest on 99designs and tweaking the submissions as we go along.) We then need to survey 10+ people that 1) are not a part of Karmacoin but may possibly be in future; 2) our target market, to find out how they feel about Karmacoin from the logo/brand

If we have a couple of people here designing and working to continually please a large number of non-designers who have every manner of concerns about design, progress will be nearly impossible.

We're a coin, but "Karmacoin" is still a brand and should be treated as any global brand would be. This is perhaps the most important decision we'll make, and one that needs to be done quickly. Whenever the democratic process is inserted into design decisions chaos ensues. This is what has happened to us. The only voting that should take place is surveying people that do not yet have a stake in Karmacoin. (non-technical people that will be the greatest majority of future users)

In the following link, Marissa Meyer of Yahoo chronicles what happened when they did the same thing that Karmacoin did. The result? A bad logo that was out of touch with what users wanted:  http://marissamayr.tumblr.com/post/60336044815/geeking-out-on-the-logo. Read "Yahoo's Branding Disaster" here: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/09/yahoos-branding-disaster/

Here, a few people got together to do a memorial for the Jewish Holocaust, and ended up creating a memorial in comic sans font (!) http://fontsinuse.com/uses/2274/war-memorial-in-geffen-nl

Good design will cost a few hundred dollars, but bad design (out of touch with target market) will end up costing us a lot more.

Hey jpeters.  I am going to sleep now.  What role do you want?  Can we start up on this at 9a EST on IRQ tomorrow morning?

[jtpeters]

sure, we can chat about it later.

[Alphi]

This coin is gonna be big :-)
Lots of interesting ideas being discussed!

How can a coin with 155 thread pages be worth 1 satoshi!!!

I expect 10+ satoshi in a week time.

What killed us was the mining profitability was based on coinmarket.io.  When they paused trading last week its basically killed the volume and price.  I don't have my finger on the pulse of the miners but I can imagine with they flooded the market to unload their karma it dropped the price and a few chicken littles did as well.  We are barely a month old, we are working out the kinks and will get the Karma train back on the tracks soon!

yeah the scrypt mining market is pretty much lead by the behemoth multipools. They basically switch to mine whichever coin has the highest profitability based on Price v Difficulty. a lot of them dump straight to BTC too so they put downward pressure on the price of any coin they mine. the thing about multipools is though that they seem to go for whatever is the highest price and not the coins with the best value.

a coin that is super easy to mine and could be worth 10 times next week is not even considered against coins that are much harder to mine but bring in more BTC right now. If you are a small fish like me.. what you don't want to do is follow the big fish because all you end up with is scraps...
better to find a place where the big fish aren't.. so you can get your fill. When the profitability of Karma goes back up, the behemoths will be all over this coin and so it will be difficult to mine... so better to mine it now and sell later if your goal is to make money.

This is why there are still people mining this coin now even though it doesn't look as profitable as some of the other coins.

[karmazaki]

please note that we have a brainstorm group in facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/271137736388047/

[Evolvo]

If only there was a Karma Nation that this would be the official currency of, then we could catch some of the glow of Aurora coin and Maza coin.   

[bitwho]

If only there was a Karma Nation that this would be the official currency of, then we could catch some of the glow of Aurora coin and Maza coin.   

look at the volumes. silly orders. those coins are simply a joke. don't let the hype fool ya. always look at volumes. then graphs.


You can tell that those coins are being used to hype, pump and dump.

[Evolvo]

If only there was a Karma Nation that this would be the official currency of, then we could catch some of the glow of Aurora coin and Maza coin.   

look at the volumes. silly orders. those coins are simply a joke. don't let the hype fool ya. always look at volumes. then graphs.


You can tell that those coins are being used to hype, pump and dump.

I was joking 

[josephliton]

Nice coin.